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Yes, Steel Wheels monitor mixes was superior in music quality imo. Maybe The Stones are taking this into consideration with a new album? Must be a lot of work just thinking about the approach besides just making new songs.
They should use the most recent releases - Blue and Lonesome and Crosseyed Heart - as blueprints for the production.
Seems only natural they would, but then again some strange curveballs (as has been mentioned) could take it to a different oddball territory.
Were they produced well? I'll take your word for it. I couldn't get past the lukewarm covers and the tuneless originals for long enough to tell.
Can't we have something produced like, oh, I don't know, Beggars Banquet?
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Yes, Steel Wheels monitor mixes was superior in music quality imo. Maybe The Stones are taking this into consideration with a new album? Must be a lot of work just thinking about the approach besides just making new songs.
They should use the most recent releases - Blue and Lonesome and Crosseyed Heart - as blueprints for the production.
Seems only natural they would, but then again some strange curveballs (as has been mentioned) could take it to a different oddball territory.
Were they produced well? I'll take your word for it. I couldn't get past the lukewarm covers and the tuneless originals for long enough to tell.
Can't we have something produced like, oh, I don't know, Beggars Banquet?
Yes there was minimal production - in the case of Crosseyed Heart it was warm and sincere, while in the case of B&L it was almost live in the studio sounding as they supposedly only did one or two takes.
While the former was far superior because of the originals, the latter was underwhelming due to the average at best covers. Take the best of both of these - warm, sincere, and "live" - and they might come up with something worthy, but of course they need good songs to begin with which might be asking too much at this point.
If you're waiting for something like Beggars, that train left the station nearly 50 years ago on a one way trip...destination unknown.
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Yes, Steel Wheels monitor mixes was superior in music quality imo. Maybe The Stones are taking this into consideration with a new album? Must be a lot of work just thinking about the approach besides just making new songs.
They should use the most recent releases - Blue and Lonesome and Crosseyed Heart - as blueprints for the production.
Seems only natural they would, but then again some strange curveballs (as has been mentioned) could take it to a different oddball territory.
Were they produced well? I'll take your word for it. I couldn't get past the lukewarm covers and the tuneless originals for long enough to tell.
Can't we have something produced like, oh, I don't know, Beggars Banquet?
Yes there was minimal production - in the case of Crosseyed Heart it was warm and sincere, while in the case of B&L it was almost live in the studio sounding as they supposedly only did one or two takes.
While the former was far superior because of the originals, the latter was underwhelming due to the average at best covers. Take the best of both of these - warm, sincere, and "live" - and they might come up with something worthy, but of course they need good songs to begin with which might be asking too much at this point.
If you're waiting for something like Beggars, that train left the station nearly 50 years ago on a one way trip...destination unknown.
B&L was surprisingly good ( my exspectations of a blues cover album was low) - and CH was unfortunately as boring as Main defender and TIC quickly turned out to be. I sure hope they do not follow the CH path.
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Yes there was minimal production - in the case of Crosseyed Heart it was warm and sincere, while in the case of B&L it was almost live in the studio sounding as they supposedly only did one or two takes.
While the former was far superior because of the originals, the latter was underwhelming due to the average at best covers. Take the best of both of these - warm, sincere, and "live" - and they might come up with something worthy, but of course they need good songs to begin with which might be asking too much at this point.
If you're waiting for something like Beggars, that train left the station nearly 50 years ago on a one way trip...destination unknown.
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Yes, Steel Wheels monitor mixes was superior in music quality imo. Maybe The Stones are taking this into consideration with a new album? Must be a lot of work just thinking about the approach besides just making new songs.
They should use the most recent releases - Blue and Lonesome and Crosseyed Heart - as blueprints for the production.
Seems only natural they would, but then again some strange curveballs (as has been mentioned) could take it to a different oddball territory.
Were they produced well? I'll take your word for it. I couldn't get past the lukewarm covers and the tuneless originals for long enough to tell.
Can't we have something produced like, oh, I don't know, Beggars Banquet?
Yes there was minimal production - in the case of Crosseyed Heart it was warm and sincere, while in the case of B&L it was almost live in the studio sounding as they supposedly only did one or two takes.
While the former was far superior because of the originals, the latter was underwhelming due to the average at best covers. Take the best of both of these - warm, sincere, and "live" - and they might come up with something worthy, but of course they need good songs to begin with which might be asking too much at this point.
If you're waiting for something like Beggars, that train left the station nearly 50 years ago on a one way trip...destination unknown.
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If you're waiting for something like Beggars, that train left the station nearly 50 years ago on a one way trip...destination unknown.
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If you're waiting for something like Beggars, that train left the station nearly 50 years ago on a one way trip...destination unknown.
Actually, that destination turned out to be LET IT BLEED and STICKY FINGERS, both of which had leftovers so good they went on EOMS.
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1. The material should be significant
A great rule, indeed. One cannot help but wish they might've applied it to their last 6 or 7 records.
I doubt they set out to make poor records, they are probably too close to the music they create to know how it will be received until it is received , and even then it takes time. Exile had negative reviews, it took a few years for it to get the acclaim it deserved.
I actually thought the last 6 albums were pretty good as it happens, its just that folks on IORR are hard to please
...and you're right...only horrible record they've ever really put out is dirty work. the last several have been 'pretty good' for the most part, but not classic.
Just for the record, I wasn't commenting on whether the records were poor or pretty good or horrible or not classic.
I was responding to bv's very specific--and fascinating, at least to me--use of the word 'significant.' Calling material "significant' is different from passing a snap judgment or offering a quick opinion. Significance connotes thought, importance, relevance, power. The Stones have not produced material meeting that standard for a very long time, in my opinion.
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1. The material should be significant
A great rule, indeed. One cannot help but wish they might've applied it to their last 6 or 7 records.
I doubt they set out to make poor records, they are probably too close to the music they create to know how it will be received until it is received , and even then it takes time. Exile had negative reviews, it took a few years for it to get the acclaim it deserved.
I actually thought the last 6 albums were pretty good as it happens, its just that folks on IORR are hard to please
...and you're right...only horrible record they've ever really put out is dirty work. the last several have been 'pretty good' for the most part, but not classic.
Just for the record, I wasn't commenting on whether the records were poor or pretty good or horrible or not classic.
I was responding to bv's very specific--and fascinating, at least to me--use of the word 'significant.' Calling material "significant' is different from passing a snap judgment or offering a quick opinion. Significance connotes thought, importance, relevance, power. The Stones have not produced material meeting that standard for a very long time, in my opinion.
sweet neo con was significant...just not very good.
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sweet neo con was significant...just not very good.
I personally love Sweet NeoCon
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If you like Sweet Neo-Con you might like England Lost, it's about Brexit.
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If you like Sweet Neo-Con you might like England Lost, it's about Brexit.
Musically, I love "Sweet Neo-Con." I'm fine with the subject matter. I thought the lyrics should have been stronger. As for "England Lost," I'll reserve final judgement but I do find it amusing a tax exile has such a strong opinion about England's choice to leave the EU.
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The lyrics for England lost will go something like this.
Brexit how cum you taste so good, just like a great country should.
We are called Great Britain for a reason, so don't ty to reason.
The brexiteers will save this country, so the eu can wring out to dry.
We love Europe but not the eu, as to much power over country's is no good for you.
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How cum Brexit taste so good just like a young country should.
I said yeah yeah yeah whoah....
I think I've got the hang of this song writing, there's nothing to it ...
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No Mick solo album per Soldatti's contact at Universal. Just a solo single. A live album this year (Whether the 1960s live album or NO FILTER live album or Best of The Live Albums is unclear). Stones studio album next year.
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