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Socrates1
I happened to see this on rolling stone.com and I was gonna start a thread. I couldn't believe nobody had started a thread yet. I guess everybody is distracted at present. Awesome fun! Sounds like those honkey tonk women were a lot of fun. And don't forget her friend Candy.
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Socrates1
Didn't Keith say that about Brian? He must have first. If he ever even said it about Mick? I could have sworn he said that about Brian. Any fact checkers online tonight?
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Socrates1
Didn't Keith say that about Brian? He must have first. If he ever even said it about Mick? I could have sworn he said that about Brian. Any fact checkers online tonight?
a quick google search turn up the quote in Life, but ive heard it attributed to keith about Mick for years. that and calling him brenda behind his back:
"Do you know Mick Jagger?" Richards snarls. "Yeah, which one? He's a nice bunch of guys." [www.washingtonpost.com]
but this topic has digressed and if you are starting at the bottom of the thread go back up to the top and watch the video!
EDIT: i have to add that a little more googling shows that Keith also said it about Brian (see page 129 of Victor Bockris's bio of Keith), which i read back when it came out, so i guess whatever i read most recently stuck in my head! another instance of Keith changing a story to fit the moment, i guess.
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Palace Revolution 2000
Ok, so I've never heard about Cathy James.
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tomk
Is this the Candy and Kathy in Citadel? Or does Keith say Cassie?
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Socrates1
Didn't Keith say that about Brian? He must have first. If he ever even said it about Mick? I could have sworn he said that about Brian. Any fact checkers online tonight?
a quick google search turn up the quote in Life, but ive heard it attributed to keith about Mick for years. that and calling him brenda behind his back:
"Do you know Mick Jagger?" Richards snarls. "Yeah, which one? He's a nice bunch of guys." [www.washingtonpost.com]
EDIT: i have to add that a little more googling shows that Keith also said it about Brian (see page 129 of Victor Bockris's bio of Keith), which i read back when it came out, so i guess whatever i read most recently stuck in my head! another instance of Keith changing a story to fit the moment, i guess.
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lem motlow
gram had nothing to do with writing either song and that's just people adding 2 and 2 and getting 5.gram inspired keith to play more country and gram and keith used to sit around and jam together.
the truth is gram never had that level of songwriting ability,he did some nice stuff but to just attribute two of the gems from the stones golden era to him is a little insane or at least extremely stupid.
if the guy had a gimme shelter or a street fighting man in his arsenal it might make a bit more sense but the fact is simple,you're talking about A+ level songwriting and attributing it to an at best B level writer.if it were bob dylan we were talking about i would at least consider the possiblity but gram parsons? no way in hell.
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lem motlow
gram had nothing to do with writing either song and that's just people adding 2 and 2 and getting 5.gram inspired keith to play more country and gram and keith used to sit around and jam together.
the truth is gram never had that level of songwriting ability,he did some nice stuff but to just attribute two of the gems from the stones golden era to him is a little insane or at least extremely stupid.
if the guy had a gimme shelter or a street fighting man in his arsenal it might make a bit more sense but the fact is simple,you're talking about A+ level songwriting and attributing it to an at best B level writer.if it were bob dylan we were talking about i would at least consider the possiblity but gram parsons? no way in hell.
Good post
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lem motlow
gram had nothing to do with writing either song and that's just people adding 2 and 2 and getting 5.gram inspired keith to play more country and gram and keith used to sit around and jam together.
the truth is gram never had that level of songwriting ability,he did some nice stuff but to just attribute two of the gems from the stones golden era to him is a little insane or at least extremely stupid.
if the guy had a gimme shelter or a street fighting man in his arsenal it might make a bit more sense but the fact is simple,you're talking about A+ level songwriting and attributing it to an at best B level writer.if it were bob dylan we were talking about i would at least consider the possiblity but gram parsons? no way in hell.
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I've always felt Gram Parsons is overrated by many Stones fans, and if it weren't for the Keith connection, he would simply be a minor footnote in the big picture of things (which to most people, he is).
Sure they jammed a bit, and yes he might have had a minor influence on Keith, but nothing from his own catalogue/career is worthy of being mentioned in the same sentence as the Stones.
If you asked a non Stones fan who he was, most would have no idea.