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From last week.
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Is that just a general expression or has something specific happened ? If it's the case I hope it's not health related.
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Maybe it's babies-related and/or a 8 date tour makes no sense financially. Don't forget they have to stay in hotels one week in every town, which alone costs 100.000s per show.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2017-02-16 15:20 by Monsoon Ragoon.
It's a c'est la vie type of expression ...... doesn't relate to anything specific
[ I want to shout, but I can hardly speak ]
they don't – at least not in Europe. They can stay in London and fly in for the shows in other cities just in time and return back afterwards. At least the did it back in 1995 that way
There is no question that they can fill the stadiums. HOWEVER, I am not sure that they can do what they did in 2014, which was charge an average of $220+ per ticket. The average ticket price for a U2 show on the 360 (stadium) tour was 50-100% cheaper than the Stones' 14 on Fire tour.
I am 100% sure that they could fill stadiums if they were willing to play for an average of $100-$125 per ticket, the way that everyone else does. However, the Stones just charge much more than anyone else. Promoters might not be willing to take the risk at those prices, and the Stones probably aren't willing to come down.
And the crew?
.
The planned but cancelled extension to VL ?
Yeah
For instance: due to sudden health issues during the contract signing - and the Doctor's advice was to stay at home for 6 months ....
Example: [iorr.org] .
Remember the cancelled show in Las Vegas' T-Mobile Arena on 19-Oct-2016 .... [www.rollingstones.com] .
It can't be cancelled as long as it's not even announced. But a planned tour sometimes never happens. The first tour that didn't take place was the Spring tour 1970 which was rescheduled half a year later. Maybe the 2017 tour could as well be in 2018, I don't know.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2017-02-16 20:47 by Monsoon Ragoon.
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Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by:
BowieStone
()
Date: February 16, 2017 13:22
Yes, I do. Because they last toured in Europe in 2014 (for massive crowds).
I believe they won't fill those large stadiums this time around.
The last U2 tour were arenas. There's a reason for that.
I believe they won't fill those large stadiums this time around.
The last U2 tour were arenas. There's a reason for that.
Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by:
Maindefender
()
Date: February 16, 2017 13:28
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bv
There is not a single good reason for the Stones to sign a contract early, as long as they can wait. As soon as a contract for a show is signed, they actually guarantee legally to go there and to perform the show. Like the Las Vegas shows. The promoter invest in stages and fences and planning and ticket sales and collect 5 million or more worth of ticket sales within a week. They contract to delivery of a zillion hot dogs and beers. Security. Five star hotel rooms. Then if Mick, Keith, Rollie or Charlie find out they rather would like to go fishing, buying a horse, recording a solo album, or directing a new movie, then they can not change, they have to do that show and every other show, otherwise they would be legally tied up to be there and perform. The only option would be to pay the contrac t fee for cancellation, which I am sure is in the million US dollars range.
Remember Mick in the Ole Ole Ole movie, talking about the five extra days they had to stay in Miami, while postponing the Havana show. He said : "They just have to find the money". Meaning it is a cost, a high cost. Nothing comes free these days. There are crews to pay and organizers to pay and a lot lot more. No reason to sign anything if you are the biggest act on this planet.
Just keep your calendar clear for June and July this year and also may be a week in May and August, and you will be fine. Take your family holiday another time or another year. It is all about priority.
From last week.
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Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by:
gotdablouse
()
Date: February 16, 2017 15:14
Quote
paulywaul
Yes I have heard it, but not through what I would call 'official' channels. Maybe the rumour will be firmed up later today, I guess we all now have to stay tuned for further info ... ?
Would be a shame, but hey ... s**t happens !!
Is that just a general expression or has something specific happened ? If it's the case I hope it's not health related.
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Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by:
Monsoon Ragoon
()
Date: February 16, 2017 15:18
Quote
gotdablouseQuote
paulywaul
Yes I have heard it, but not through what I would call 'official' channels. Maybe the rumour will be firmed up later today, I guess we all now have to stay tuned for further info ... ?
Would be a shame, but hey ... s**t happens !!
Is that just a general expression or has something specific happened ? If it's the case I hope it's not health related.
Maybe it's babies-related and/or a 8 date tour makes no sense financially. Don't forget they have to stay in hotels one week in every town, which alone costs 100.000s per show.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2017-02-16 15:20 by Monsoon Ragoon.
Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by:
paulywaul
()
Date: February 16, 2017 15:22
Quote
gotdablouseQuote
paulywaul
Yes I have heard it, but not through what I would call 'official' channels. Maybe the rumour will be firmed up later today, I guess we all now have to stay tuned for further info ... ?
Would be a shame, but hey ... s**t happens !!
Is that just a general expression or has something specific happened ? If it's the case I hope it's not health related.
It's a c'est la vie type of expression ...... doesn't relate to anything specific
[ I want to shout, but I can hardly speak ]
Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by:
slewan
()
Date: February 16, 2017 15:28
Quote
Monsoon Ragoon
Don't forget they have to stay in hotels one week in every town, which alone costs 100.000s per show.
they don't – at least not in Europe. They can stay in London and fly in for the shows in other cities just in time and return back afterwards. At least the did it back in 1995 that way
Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by:
kish_stoned
()
Date: February 16, 2017 15:41
Touring is changing for lot of bands,seen the stones since 1969 and they got better as a band and play longer sets,i am sure they will still fill up stadiums in big cities in europe,and they have had good album out too sold well in europe,boys will keep ROCKING.
Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by:
grzegorz67
()
Date: February 16, 2017 16:05
Just soooo hope Bjornulf will be along in a minute to quash all these latest rumours...
Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by:
drbryant
()
Date: February 16, 2017 16:12
Quote
BowieStone
Yes, I do. Because they last toured in Europe in 2014 (for massive crowds).
I believe they won't fill those large stadiums this time around.
The last U2 tour were arenas. There's a reason for that.
There is no question that they can fill the stadiums. HOWEVER, I am not sure that they can do what they did in 2014, which was charge an average of $220+ per ticket. The average ticket price for a U2 show on the 360 (stadium) tour was 50-100% cheaper than the Stones' 14 on Fire tour.
I am 100% sure that they could fill stadiums if they were willing to play for an average of $100-$125 per ticket, the way that everyone else does. However, the Stones just charge much more than anyone else. Promoters might not be willing to take the risk at those prices, and the Stones probably aren't willing to come down.
Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by:
Monsoon Ragoon
()
Date: February 16, 2017 16:23
Quote
slewanQuote
Monsoon Ragoon
Don't forget they have to stay in hotels one week in every town, which alone costs 100.000s per show.
they don't – at least not in Europe. They can stay in London and fly in for the shows in other cities just in time and return back afterwards. At least the did it back in 1995 that way
And the crew?
Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by:
RoughJusticeOnYa
()
Date: February 16, 2017 16:36
Hey, I just heard the tour is 'on' again. Anyone else hear this...?!
Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by:
shattered1978
()
Date: February 16, 2017 17:00
Ufs, glad we got that out of the way 
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RoughJusticeOnYa
Hey, I just heard the tour is 'on' again. Anyone else hear this...?!
Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by:
Monsoon Ragoon
()
Date: February 16, 2017 17:02
Where are those "news" from?
Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by:
ironbelly
()
Date: February 16, 2017 17:06
Crew can take groupies to Six Flags or somethingQuote
Monsoon RagoonQuote
slewanQuote
Monsoon Ragoon
Don't forget they have to stay in hotels one week in every town, which alone costs 100.000s per show.
they don't – at least not in Europe. They can stay in London and fly in for the shows in other cities just in time and return back afterwards. At least the did it back in 1995 that way
And the crew?
.Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by:
terry
()
Date: February 16, 2017 17:08
Yes where does all this info come from.
Looks like the European tour will be named the on n off tour.
Looks like the European tour will be named the on n off tour.
Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by:
Monsoon Ragoon
()
Date: February 16, 2017 17:10
Maybe we will get something like the 1996 Asia/America tour.
Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by:
grzegorz67
()
Date: February 16, 2017 17:44
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Monsoon Ragoon
Maybe we will get something like the 1996 Asia/America tour.
The planned but cancelled extension to VL ?
Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by:
Monsoon Ragoon
()
Date: February 16, 2017 17:47
Quote
grzegorz67Quote
Monsoon Ragoon
Maybe we will get something like the 1996 Asia/America tour.
The planned but cancelled extension to VL ?
Yeah
Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by:
Rollin92
()
Date: February 16, 2017 18:28
If the rumours are true, still holding out for a few UK shows.
Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by:
straycatuk
()
Date: February 16, 2017 19:39
I Heard that NOTHING is confirmed for tour, but a return to the blues may be on the cards. The words "tour is off" or "cancelled" were not said.
sc uk
sc uk
Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by:
bernard90mike
()
Date: February 16, 2017 19:51
This is nothing but a huge joke going on here
How can a tour be off when it wasn't even on
BV told us to keep this summer open if you like to see The Stones live, if you're not interested just ignore it
I know some of you - me included - are dying to get 'official' information on the tour plans... but all we can do is wait and
and 
as well as some other delighting stuff
I'm just pissed off by these 'I heard a friend ...of a friend ... who knows someone ...told me...' and so on -stuff
How can a tour be off when it wasn't even on
BV told us to keep this summer open if you like to see The Stones live, if you're not interested just ignore it
I know some of you - me included - are dying to get 'official' information on the tour plans... but all we can do is wait and
and as well as some other delighting stuffI'm just pissed off by these 'I heard a friend ...of a friend ... who knows someone ...told me...' and so on -stuff
Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by:
Irix
()
Date: February 16, 2017 20:05
Quote
bernard90mike
How can a tour be off when it wasn't even on
For instance: due to sudden health issues during the contract signing - and the Doctor's advice was to stay at home for 6 months ....
Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: February 16, 2017 20:15
<How can a tour be off when it wasn't even on>
You know as well as everybody that there are plans for a European tour. Ca dates and venues are listed by Bjørnulf on the European tour pages.
It is a huge letdown if they had to cancel those plans...
You know as well as everybody that there are plans for a European tour. Ca dates and venues are listed by Bjørnulf on the European tour pages.
It is a huge letdown if they had to cancel those plans...
Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by:
jcstone47
()
Date: February 16, 2017 20:17
In regards to a London show at an outdoor venue, I remembered getting sun burned at the Hyde Park show. They were handing out sunscreen and people were sitting in the shade of garbage cans just to get some reprieve from the sun.
Hopefully we'll still be packing our bags this summer. Don't forget your sunscreen.
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Hopefully we'll still be packing our bags this summer. Don't forget your sunscreen.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2017-02-16 20:21 by jcstone47.
Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by:
powerage78
()
Date: February 16, 2017 20:35
Why this european Tour could be cancelled?
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Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by:
Irix
()
Date: February 16, 2017 20:40
Quote
powerage78
Why this european Tour could be cancelled?
Example: [iorr.org] .
Remember the cancelled show in Las Vegas' T-Mobile Arena on 19-Oct-2016 .... [www.rollingstones.com] .
Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by:
Monsoon Ragoon
()
Date: February 16, 2017 20:45
Quote
IrixQuote
powerage78
Why this european Tour could be cancelled?
Example: [iorr.org] .
Remember the cancelled show in Las Vegas' T-Mobile Arena on 19-Oct-2016 .... [www.rollingstones.com] .
It can't be cancelled as long as it's not even announced. But a planned tour sometimes never happens. The first tour that didn't take place was the Spring tour 1970 which was rescheduled half a year later. Maybe the 2017 tour could as well be in 2018, I don't know.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2017-02-16 20:47 by Monsoon Ragoon.
Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by:
powerage78
()
Date: February 16, 2017 20:50
Yes. I should write postponed.
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I'm just a Bad Boy Boogie
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I'm just a Bad Boy Boogie
Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by:
slewan
()
Date: February 16, 2017 21:07
do we have at least two independent sources for the rumor that tour plans a canceled? I'm not convinced
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2017-02-16 21:08 by slewan.
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