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Turner68
re. the stones and vulnerability, i think they sound pretty vulnerable on "slipping away". but perhaps you were specifically talking about mick.
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re. the stones and vulnerability, i think they sound pretty vulnerable on "slipping away". but perhaps you were specifically talking about mick.
There is no Rolling Stones without Mick Jagger to make a proper musical statement.
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But to make an analogy I sometimes love to do: if "Moonlight Mile" was Taylor's "Ruby Tuesday" - putting on the table Brian-like unique and idiosyncratic contribution to lead the Stones to the unknown zones - "Time Waits For No One" is Taylor's "No Expectations", a touching farewell song. Miss you guys!
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Turner68
re. the stones and vulnerability, i think they sound pretty vulnerable on "slipping away". but perhaps you were specifically talking about mick.
There is no Rolling Stones without Mick Jagger to make a proper musical statement.
- Doxa
Some of the songs with Keith on vocals are filling EXACTLY the void Mick can't fill, imo.
You Got The Silver
Coming Down Again
The bridge in Memory Motel
BTMMR
Slipping Away
How Can I Stop
If these aren't proper musical statements I'll eat my hat (which I don't have)...
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Turner68
re. the stones and vulnerability, i think they sound pretty vulnerable on "slipping away". but perhaps you were specifically talking about mick.
There is no Rolling Stones without Mick Jagger to make a proper musical statement.
- Doxa
Some of the songs with Keith on vocals are filling EXACTLY the void Mick can't fill, imo.
You Got The Silver
Coming Down Again
The bridge in Memory Motel
BTMMR
Slipping Away
How Can I Stop
If these aren't proper musical statements I'll eat my hat (which I don't have)...
Great songs for sure, but mostly 'just' Keith's musical statements... Mick is nicely present in "Coming Down Again", "Memory Motel", "Before They Make Me Run" and "Slipping Away" to make them full-cylinder Stones songs. And even when he is not, he is not that far - he is coming along in behind the corner; Keith's cameos work in the context of Rolling Stones to make a certain difference to the 'standard' (if not anything else, in the context of concerts, a nice piss break for some folks...)
A good provo, huh?
More seriously, I need to admit that when I think of Stones songs, I seem to neglect/forget Keith 'solo' songs; they sound like making a story of their own, and you and Turner68 are surely right in offering Keith's songs as a kind of 'vulnerable' songs - actually that is his typical contribution especially in the latter day records.
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Comments, input and alterations are very welcome!
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Time Waits For No One
Jagger/Richards
Recorded: Musicland Studios, Munich January, April–May 1974
Mick Jagger: Lead Vocal
Mick Taylor: Lead Guitar, 12 String Acoustic Guitar & Percussion
Keith Richards: Rhythm Guitar & Backing Vocals
Bill Wyman: Bass & Synthesizer
Charlie Watts: Drums
Nicky Hopkins: Piano
Ray Cooper: Percussion
Just to note: it's Richards doing the turn-around solo's at the end of each verse. Credits should read:
Keith Richards: Lead & Rhythm Guitar, 12 string acoustic guitar & Backing Vocals
Mick Taylor: Lead & Rythm Guitar
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Thanks I will change it......
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DandelionPowderman
Timeisonourside.com also has Taylor wrongly credited on the Hi-Fly guitar synth (Keith is playing that in the left speaker).
Keith has always been credited on that acoustic 12 string on several sites, but I'm not sure.
There is a «half-finished» phrase in there, which sounds like something Keith would do, while the rest of the acoustic playing sounds like Taylor.
Maybe they both played acoustic on it?
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DandelionPowderman
Timeisonourside.com also has Taylor wrongly credited on the Hi-Fly guitar synth (Keith is playing that in the left speaker).
Keith has always been credited on that acoustic 12 string on several sites, but I'm not sure.
There is a «half-finished» phrase in there, which sounds like something Keith would do, while the rest of the acoustic playing sounds like Taylor.
Maybe they both played acoustic on it?
I's not about who is wrong or right and I don't know either, but to change the spirit of a great thread because of one person's opinion is a bit odd, imo.
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Timeisonourside.com also has Taylor wrongly credited on the Hi-Fly guitar synth (Keith is playing that in the left speaker).
Keith has always been credited on that acoustic 12 string on several sites, but I'm not sure.
There is a «half-finished» phrase in there, which sounds like something Keith would do, while the rest of the acoustic playing sounds like Taylor.
Maybe they both played acoustic on it?
I's not about who is wrong or right and I don't know either who played the Tuba, but to change the spirit of a great thread because of one person's opinion is a bit odd, imo.
If there are obvious mistakes, they should be corrected, imo. However, who's playing the acoustic on TWFNO is not one of those, imo.
Many on here have contributed to develop and correct the sites we're quoting from, btw.
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Timeisonourside.com also has Taylor wrongly credited on the Hi-Fly guitar synth (Keith is playing that in the left speaker).
Keith has always been credited on that acoustic 12 string on several sites, but I'm not sure.
There is a «half-finished» phrase in there, which sounds like something Keith would do, while the rest of the acoustic playing sounds like Taylor.
Maybe they both played acoustic on it?
I's not about who is wrong or right and I don't know either who played the Tuba, but to change the spirit of a great thread because of one person's opinion is a bit odd, imo.
If there are obvious mistakes, they should be corrected, imo. However, who's playing the acoustic on TWFNO is not one of those, imo.
Many on here have contributed to develop and correct the sites we're quoting from, btw.
I think you get my point.
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Timeisonourside.com also has Taylor wrongly credited on the Hi-Fly guitar synth (Keith is playing that in the left speaker).
Keith has always been credited on that acoustic 12 string on several sites, but I'm not sure.
There is a «half-finished» phrase in there, which sounds like something Keith would do, while the rest of the acoustic playing sounds like Taylor.
Maybe they both played acoustic on it?
I's not about who is wrong or right and I don't know either who played the Tuba, but to change the spirit of a great thread because of one person's opinion is a bit odd, imo.
If there are obvious mistakes, they should be corrected, imo. However, who's playing the acoustic on TWFNO is not one of those, imo.
Many on here have contributed to develop and correct the sites we're quoting from, btw.
I think you get my point.
I think you get mine.
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Timeisonourside.com also has Taylor wrongly credited on the Hi-Fly guitar synth (Keith is playing that in the left speaker).
Keith has always been credited on that acoustic 12 string on several sites, but I'm not sure.
There is a «half-finished» phrase in there, which sounds like something Keith would do, while the rest of the acoustic playing sounds like Taylor.
Maybe they both played acoustic on it?
I's not about who is wrong or right and I don't know either who played the Tuba, but to change the spirit of a great thread because of one person's opinion is a bit odd, imo.
If there are obvious mistakes, they should be corrected, imo. However, who's playing the acoustic on TWFNO is not one of those, imo.
Many on here have contributed to develop and correct the sites we're quoting from, btw.
I think you get my point.
I think you get mine.
No. The first post of this thread is never supposed to be edited.
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Timeisonourside.com also has Taylor wrongly credited on the Hi-Fly guitar synth (Keith is playing that in the left speaker).
Keith has always been credited on that acoustic 12 string on several sites, but I'm not sure.
There is a «half-finished» phrase in there, which sounds like something Keith would do, while the rest of the acoustic playing sounds like Taylor.
Maybe they both played acoustic on it?
I's not about who is wrong or right and I don't know either who played the Tuba, but to change the spirit of a great thread because of one person's opinion is a bit odd, imo.
If there are obvious mistakes, they should be corrected, imo. However, who's playing the acoustic on TWFNO is not one of those, imo.
Many on here have contributed to develop and correct the sites we're quoting from, btw.
I think you get my point.
I think you get mine.
No. The first post of this thread is never supposed to be edited.
Come on! Both you and I have seen countless examples of mistakes in the Track Talks, where correction has been necessary. But I agree with you in that it takes more than one person to do that. There has to be a consensus about the need for correction.
For instance, a correction had to be made when Taylor wasn't listed on Sweet Black Angel (both here and on tioos.com). That is now corrected on both sites.
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Well, let's agree to disagree, then. If you had it your way, Taylor wouldn't have been credited on Sweet Black Angel.
The world moves on, we get more knowledge, remasters open up the soundscape, outtakes appear. Stuff like this will never remain static.
And pointing out obvious mistakes is not ignorance nor arrogance. In fact, it's the opposite. Trying to mend incorrect info is a sympathetic action. It's not a pissing contest.
+ Rene and NICOS have gotten their info from different sources (sometimes even on one track), which sometimes are spot on, sometimes not.
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Remember that all the track talks start like this:
«Comments, input and alterations are very welcome!»
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Remember that all the track talks start like this:
«Comments, input and alterations are very welcome!»
I do, and as far as I remember track talk the initial posts have never been edited like this before. It's not done. Now let's stop making fools out of ourselves, no one gives a hoot anyway.
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Turner68
re. the stones and vulnerability, i think they sound pretty vulnerable on "slipping away". but perhaps you were specifically talking about mick.
There is no Rolling Stones without Mick Jagger to make a proper musical statement.
- Doxa
Some of the songs with Keith on vocals are filling EXACTLY the void Mick can't fill, imo.
You Got The Silver
Coming Down Again
The bridge in Memory Motel
BTMMR
Slipping Away
How Can I Stop
If these aren't proper musical statements I'll eat my hat (which I don't have)...
Great songs for sure, but mostly 'just' Keith's musical statements... Mick is nicely present in "Coming Down Again", "Memory Motel", "Before They Make Me Run" and "Slipping Away" to make them full-cylinder Stones songs. And even when he is not, he is not that far - he is coming along in behind the corner; Keith's cameos work in the context of Rolling Stones to make a certain difference to the 'standard' (if not anything else, in the context of concerts, a nice piss break for some folks...)
A good provo, huh?
More seriously, I need to admit that when I think of Stones songs, I seem to neglect/forget Keith 'solo' songs; they sound like making a story of their own, and you and Turner68 are surely right in offering Keith's songs as a kind of 'vulnerable' songs - actually that is his typical contribution especially in the latter day records.
- Doxa