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MrForeverMusicFan
Steve Lillywhite was recently interviewed on Produce Like A Pro.
Steve discusses his contributions on Dirty Work and The Rolling Stones.
Engineer Dave Jerden (She's The Boss and Dirty Work) is also mentioned in conversation.
From the 32:05 to 39:58 mark.
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GasLightStreet
Playing guitar fantastically does not cover up dog shit for songs.
Well, for me, it kind of does.
The thing I've always loved most about this band is the glorious ramshackle racket they make when playing almost anything.
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Spud
...If these albums that we criticise so fiercely had been released by new or unknown artists they'd be received as being wonderful !
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...If these albums that we criticise so fiercely had been released by new or unknown artists they'd be received as being wonderful !
The only reason that DW could have seen a release is because it was the Stones. If it was a new/unknown artist, they would have been told "take a hike".
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...If these albums that we criticise so fiercely had been released by new or unknown artists they'd be received as being wonderful !
The only reason that DW could have seen a release is because it was the Stones. If it was a new/unknown artist, they would have been told "take a hike".
Check out the list of 1986 top 100 best albums, and tell me how many are so much better than Dirty Work
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Palace Revolution 2000
I'm sitting here, drowsing, doing one of my favorite things, i.e. thinking about the Stones. And I thought about 'Dirty Work'. I guess we can say that it is widely considered one of their worst albums.
But then I wondered how I would see it if this had been their first album. If a band appeared today, with this album. I think I would like it a whole lot more. I mean, 'Winning Ugly' doesn't have that many fans, but that is by Stones' standards. But honestly, no one else does anything like that.
Made me re-evaluate the album.
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Mathijs
I try to listen to it once in a while, and every time I get to same conclusion -it's a totally awful album, basically unlistenable. What makes it worse is to know that they recorded half a dozen songs that would have made the album 10 times better, and that the Fully Finished outtakes showed that when you take away the god-awful 1980's production they really did play well.
I like Harlem Shuffle due to Bill Wyman's fantastic bass, I half-like Had it With You as it is a nice little rocker nicely done.
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Palace Revolution 2000
I'm sitting here, drowsing, doing one of my favorite things, i.e. thinking about the Stones. And I thought about 'Dirty Work'. I guess we can say that it is widely considered one of their worst albums.
But then I wondered how I would see it if this had been their first album. If a band appeared today, with this album. I think I would like it a whole lot more. I mean, 'Winning Ugly' doesn't have that many fans, but that is by Stones' standards. But honestly, no one else does anything like that.
Made me re-evaluate the album.
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DandelionPowderman
I think Had It With You worked nicely, with the fantastic rhythm guitar in the foreground, and the sax filling in. Pretty sure that was intentional production-wise.
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liddas
I can't help loving the old Dirty Work. I was 18 when it came out, and it was the soundtrack of a wild summer! The 3 years wait from Undercover seemed ages, and the first riff of One Hit was a knock out. At the time the production didn't bother me at all. Loved and still love the music of that period. Besides, Tattoo You and Undercover were already moving in that musical direction.
Admit that when I first listened to the DW outtakes I shared Mathijs' opinion above: they could have made one hell of a double record with what was left out.
Recently I settled with the decision of releasing DW as it is. It was a statement of where they were then, and what was left out we somehow already have in other records, probably even done better. Save Invitation, which to this day I consider a crime towards humanity the fact that it wasn't released.
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