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Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by: JumpingKentFlash ()
Date: May 19, 2016 18:43

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Ben Waters posted this on his facebook page yesterday: "On the train to London for an extremely exciting recording session!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Asked if he could provide any more details he later posted "i dont think i am allowed to say. i will ask the boss later".

It's not June yet, but any chance that this might involve the Stones record? Or do you think they will leave all the piano pieces to Chuck? Charlie obviously could put in a word for him and Mick and Keith know how well the "Boogie for Stu"-sound was. Just wondering

The boss? So he's recording with Bruce Springsteen?

JumpingKentFlash

Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by: matxil ()
Date: May 19, 2016 18:59

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I much prefer the Stones to try to do something new and experimental than doing some nostalgic blues album which would be pointless.
However, that doesn't mean that "experimental" album would be any good. TSMR or DW show that experimental Stones can end up pretty bad (at least 50% terrible). On the other hand, when their blues-based roots go hand in hand with going along with the times, trying new things, jamming, allowing grooves to grow, then they have proved that they come up with truely great stuff.
The fact that "the new album" is apparantly the fruit of a few separate sessions, however, does not promise anything good.

It's been so long since they did the blues properly, so we can regard a blues album as a major experiment winking smiley

The only way for them to do it properly, is when they do something new to it, i.e., as they did, for example, on EOMS (which doesn't mean they should repeat EOMS which would be equally pointless), if not, you'd be better of listening to Howling Wolf, John Lee Hooker, Muddy Waters etc...

What was the new thing they did with the blues tunes on EOMS?

Well, it was blues/rock/soul/gospel/country based (I'm sure I forgot something there). I know you don't agree but I think Ventilator Blues is more blues than anything else. In any case, I think you would agree that there is at least a strong blues influence/base/root in it.
HipShake, on the other hand, is a fairly straight played classic blues (Slim Harpo, I think), but Mick's voice and the tight, crisp guitars make it special.
Another example is Stop Breaking Down.
I'm not saying any of these songs are revolutionary experimental (compared to e.g. Captain Beefheart or something) but they do have a twist, they sound new and fresh and exciting. Even now.
I can't remember any of their recent blues attempts had that quality.

I don't disagree at all on the Stones integrating the blues into numbers like Ventilator Blues, Casino Boogie and others.

What I do disagree with is that this was new to them. They did that on Aftermath (Doncha Bother Me), TSMR (The Lantern) and BB (Parachute Woman) already.

All of those are off the «formula»-songs, heavily rooted into the blues.

The mix of songs and styles, and the flow, is what makes Exile unique for me. And they grasped even broader, with gospel (SAL, IJWSHF, LIL), caribbean (SBA) and those wonderful country-ish tunes (SV and T&F).

When push comes to shove, I'm not sure if we disagree so much smiling smiley

smiling smiley With everything you just said, I agree completely.
But when I hear people saying "they are going to make a blues album", I don't think of the examples you just mentioned, which are all - indeed - excellent. Instead, I think of simple blues standards like "Back of My Hand" which I found showing a huge lack of imagination.

Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by: Bluesstone ()
Date: May 19, 2016 19:02

Bruce Springsteen is on Tour right now

Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by: Bluesstone ()
Date: May 19, 2016 19:04

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Ben Waters posted this on his facebook page yesterday: "On the train to London for an extremely exciting recording session!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Asked if he could provide any more details he later posted "i dont think i am allowed to say. i will ask the boss later".

It's not June yet, but any chance that this might involve the Stones record? Or do you think they will leave all the piano pieces to Chuck? Charlie obviously could put in a word for him and Mick and Keith know how well the "Boogie for Stu"-sound was. Just wondering

The boss? So he's recording with Bruce Springsteen?

Bruce Springsteen is currently on tour

Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by: KRiffhard ()
Date: May 19, 2016 19:38

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Ben Waters posted this on his facebook page yesterday: "On the train to London for an extremely exciting recording session!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Asked if he could provide any more details he later posted "i dont think i am allowed to say. i will ask the boss later".

It's not June yet, but any chance that this might involve the Stones record? Or do you think they will leave all the piano pieces to Chuck? Charlie obviously could put in a word for him and Mick and Keith know how well the "Boogie for Stu"-sound was. Just wondering

The boss? So he's recording with Bruce Springsteen?

Bruce Springsteen is currently on tour

I hope he is recording with the Stones!

Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by: mailexile67 ()
Date: May 19, 2016 20:47

He is recording with the great songwriter in the world:Mr.Ray Davies!!

Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by: RipThisBone ()
Date: May 19, 2016 23:29

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Hope you are wrong HMS.

Edit: Stones versus Stones... That's no competition. That's A Winner All Around!!!

Win win baby.....drinking smiley

smileys with beer

Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by: RipThisBone ()
Date: May 20, 2016 00:15

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Ben Waters posted this on his facebook page yesterday: "On the train to London for an extremely exciting recording session!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Asked if he could provide any more details he later posted "i dont think i am allowed to say. i will ask the boss later".

It's not June yet, but any chance that this might involve the Stones record? Or do you think they will leave all the piano pieces to Chuck? Charlie obviously could put in a word for him and Mick and Keith know how well the "Boogie for Stu"-sound was. Just wondering

Great information Bluesstone!!!

Ben Waters was also present during these sessions in London.

6th - 8th December 2011: THE ROLLING STONES. London, Snake Ranch Studios
KR, CW, RW, BW, MJ (December 8 only) and Ben Waters (p) jam together.
(www.nzentgraf.de).

Both Keith and Mick stated that a lot of BLUES was done during these sessions...

Hope Big Waters is on his way to London to bring his final touches...

Edit: Ronnie Wood claimed they have 11 BLUES songs in the can recorded in two days. Thing he did not tell they were recorded in 2011 (AND I LIKE IT -if so- YES I DO!)

NO edit: Bruce Springsteen's got nothing to do with it,



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Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by: roller99 ()
Date: May 20, 2016 00:33

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I wouldn't be surprised if they did finish off some unreleased songs, Rocky. I thought I'd run into Don the other night at a family oriented gig but it didn't happen. Regardless, I would guess my sister's friend who serves as consultant on Stones and KR projects will have some info soon.



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You KNOW Don Was ...? That's fantastic!! (Dude is the best ..and the man in that side of the industry). I'd give almost anything to meet the guy. He was the one who actually inspired me to go away to audio recording school ... no kidding (true story).

I know exactly where Don Was is going to be this weekend. If I can make it, I'll ask him.

Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by: Rocky Dijon ()
Date: May 20, 2016 02:40

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I wouldn't be surprised if they did finish off some unreleased songs, Rocky. I thought I'd run into Don the other night at a family oriented gig but it didn't happen. Regardless, I would guess my sister's friend who serves as consultant on Stones and KR projects will have some info soon.

Thanks as always, Teddy. Looking forward to whatever you or anyone else is able to share.

Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by: latebloomer ()
Date: May 20, 2016 03:24

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I wouldn't be surprised if they did finish off some unreleased songs, Rocky. I thought I'd run into Don the other night at a family oriented gig but it didn't happen. Regardless, I would guess my sister's friend who serves as consultant on Stones and KR projects will have some info soon.

Thanks as always, Teddy. Looking forward to whatever you or anyone else is able to share.

Same here, thank you as always Teddy. smiling smiley

Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by: Maindefender ()
Date: May 20, 2016 03:30

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I wouldn't be surprised if they did finish off some unreleased songs, Rocky. I thought I'd run into Don the other night at a family oriented gig but it didn't happen. Regardless, I would guess my sister's friend who serves as consultant on Stones and KR projects will have some info soon.

Thanks as always, Teddy. Looking forward to whatever you or anyone else is able to share.

Same here, thank you as always Teddy. smiling smiley

This is getting good, the Stones are going to reward us for 50 plus years. After all if it wasn't for us where would they be?????

Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by: IanBillen ()
Date: May 20, 2016 05:21

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I wouldn't be surprised if they did finish off some unreleased songs, Rocky. I thought I'd run into Don the other night at a family oriented gig but it didn't happen. Regardless, I would guess my sister's friend who serves as consultant on Stones and KR projects will have some info soon.



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You KNOW Don Was ...? That's fantastic!! (Dude is the best ..and the man in that side of the industry). I'd give almost anything to meet the guy. He was the one who actually inspired me to go away to audio recording school ... no kidding (true story).

I know exactly where Don Was is going to be this weekend. If I can make it, I'll ask him.

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Great.. ask him how the new stuff is.

Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by: TeddyB1018 ()
Date: May 20, 2016 06:30

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I wouldn't be surprised if they did finish off some unreleased songs, Rocky. I thought I'd run into Don the other night at a family oriented gig but it didn't happen. Regardless, I would guess my sister's friend who serves as consultant on Stones and KR projects will have some info soon.



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You KNOW Don Was ...? That's fantastic!! (Dude is the best ..and the man in that side of the industry). I'd give almost anything to meet the guy. He was the one who actually inspired me to go away to audio recording school ... no kidding (true story).

I know exactly where Don Was is going to be this weekend. If I can make it, I'll ask him.

He's playing with Bob Thiele and Katey Sagal, I think? Muttchella one of them called it? All dear old friends of mine. Unfortunately, I'm going to be away this weekend.



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Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by: roller99 ()
Date: May 20, 2016 08:46

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I wouldn't be surprised if they did finish off some unreleased songs, Rocky. I thought I'd run into Don the other night at a family oriented gig but it didn't happen. Regardless, I would guess my sister's friend who serves as consultant on Stones and KR projects will have some info soon.



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You KNOW Don Was ...? That's fantastic!! (Dude is the best ..and the man in that side of the industry). I'd give almost anything to meet the guy. He was the one who actually inspired me to go away to audio recording school ... no kidding (true story).

I know exactly where Don Was is going to be this weekend. If I can make it, I'll ask him.

He's playing with Bob Thiele and Katey Sagal, I think? Muttchella one of them called it? All dear old friends of mine. Unfortunately, I'm going to be away this weekend.

He's not performing. I know how to get in touch with him. We met up at the Stones show in 2013. Anything you want me to ask him?


Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by: IanBillen ()
Date: May 20, 2016 10:03

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I wouldn't be surprised if they did finish off some unreleased songs, Rocky. I thought I'd run into Don the other night at a family oriented gig but it didn't happen. Regardless, I would guess my sister's friend who serves as consultant on Stones and KR projects will have some info soon.



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You KNOW Don Was ...? That's fantastic!! (Dude is the best ..and the man in that side of the industry). I'd give almost anything to meet the guy. He was the one who actually inspired me to go away to audio recording school ... no kidding (true story).

I know exactly where Don Was is going to be this weekend. If I can make it, I'll ask him.

He's playing with Bob Thiele and Katey Sagal, I think? Muttchella one of them called it? All dear old friends of mine. Unfortunately, I'm going to be away this weekend.

He's not performing. I know how to get in touch with him. We met up at the Stones show in 2013. Anything you want me to ask him?



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Yes.. and my you are lucky! You are literally standing there with my 'idol'. The guy inspired me to enter into the audio engineering realm... If it was not for him and his production on Voodoo Lounge.. I would not be doing what I do most likely (<not kidding at all)..

Anyway .. if ya can ... just ask him how their new stuff is and what's unique about it compared to their other works if anything?

Ask him how it is.... *Get the lowdown on their new stuff (if ya could ...and thanks much)



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Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by: bitusa2012 ()
Date: May 20, 2016 10:14

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I wouldn't be surprised if they did finish off some unreleased songs, Rocky. I thought I'd run into Don the other night at a family oriented gig but it didn't happen. Regardless, I would guess my sister's friend who serves as consultant on Stones and KR projects will have some info soon.





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You KNOW Don Was ...? That's fantastic!! (Dude is the best ..and the man in that side of the industry). I'd give almost anything to meet the guy. He was the one who actually inspired me to go away to audio recording school ... no kidding (true story).

I know exactly where Don Was is going to be this weekend. If I can make it, I'll ask him.

He's playing with Bob Thiele and Katey Sagal, I think? Muttchella one of them called it? All dear old friends of mine. Unfortunately, I'm going to be away this weekend.

He's not performing. I know how to get in touch with him. We met up at the Stones show in 2013. Anything you want me to ask him?


Ask him when the bloody thing will be finished, and released????!!!!! I don't want to know what's on it, I want to OWN IT!!

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Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Date: May 20, 2016 10:20

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I wouldn't be surprised if they did finish off some unreleased songs, Rocky. I thought I'd run into Don the other night at a family oriented gig but it didn't happen. Regardless, I would guess my sister's friend who serves as consultant on Stones and KR projects will have some info soon.



____________________________________


You KNOW Don Was ...? That's fantastic!! (Dude is the best ..and the man in that side of the industry). I'd give almost anything to meet the guy. He was the one who actually inspired me to go away to audio recording school ... no kidding (true story).

I know exactly where Don Was is going to be this weekend. If I can make it, I'll ask him.

He's playing with Bob Thiele and Katey Sagal, I think? Muttchella one of them called it? All dear old friends of mine. Unfortunately, I'm going to be away this weekend.

He's not performing. I know how to get in touch with him. We met up at the Stones show in 2013. Anything you want me to ask him?


Nice pic, Ivor thumbs up

Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by: runrudolph ()
Date: May 20, 2016 15:05

Wonder if Ben waters made it to the Stones sessions last week. Should be good !!
Jeroen

Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by: KRiffhard ()
Date: May 20, 2016 15:30

Hi Roller!! Tell him that we want 'High or Low' (BTB sessions) and 'You got it made' (VL sessions).

Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by: Rocky Dijon ()
Date: May 20, 2016 15:34

Ask Don Was any questions you like, Ivor, and then invite him to IORR where he can see the nice things people say about his work!

Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by: runrudolph ()
Date: May 20, 2016 15:45

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Hi Roller!! Tell him that we want 'High or Low' (BTB sessions) and 'You got it made' (VL sessions).
and Because from the 2002 sessions.
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Date: May 20, 2016 15:48

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Hi Roller!! Tell him that we want 'High or Low' (BTB sessions) and 'You got it made' (VL sessions).
and Because from the 2002 sessions.
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You're asking for trouble... winking smiley

Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by: runrudolph ()
Date: May 20, 2016 16:02

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Hi Roller!! Tell him that we want 'High or Low' (BTB sessions) and 'You got it made' (VL sessions).
and Because from the 2002 sessions.
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You're asking for trouble... winking smiley

Gimme One More Shot by Keef thensmileys with beersmileys with beer
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Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by: Rocky Dijon ()
Date: May 20, 2016 16:04

Nice one, Dandy.

Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by: straycatuk ()
Date: May 20, 2016 17:10

Didn't Ben Waters play on the 3 day session in Dec 2011. None of the Stones back line were there. Bill played bass,so Ben on a current session wouldn't too much of a surprise.His style is more boogie woogie than plinkity plonk.More like Stu, bring it on :-)

Scuk

Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by: RipThisBone ()
Date: May 20, 2016 17:28

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Didn't Ben Waters play on the 3 day session in Dec 2011. None of the Stones back line were there. Bill played bass,so Ben on a current session wouldn't too much of a surprise.His style is more boogie woogie than plinkity plonk.More like Stu, bring it on :-)

Scuk

YES.

Ben Waters was present during these sessions in London:

6th - 8th December 2011: THE ROLLING STONES. London, Snake Ranch Studios
KR, CW, RW, BW, MJ (December 8 only) and Ben Waters (p) jam together.
(www.nzentgraf.de).

Both Keith and Mick stated that a lot of BLUES was done during these sessions...

A bit like they did recently according to R. Wood: recorded 11 bluessongs in two days).

Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by: mailexile67 ()
Date: May 20, 2016 18:13

Ben Waters will be at Ray Davies new album sessions in London...

Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by: tumbled ()
Date: May 20, 2016 18:50

No matter what everyone wants they will do as they please do as they please and rightly so as it comes from the truth whatever that may be so I will save my breath and not try to tame that beast by dictating to artist what they must do...I learned to step back

Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by: latebloomer ()
Date: May 20, 2016 20:24

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No matter what everyone wants they will do as they please do as they please and rightly so as it comes from the truth whatever that may be so I will save my breath and not try to tame that beast by dictating to artist what they must do...I learned to step back

I ran out of breath just reading that tumbled....but you are right and not just about them. Does no good trying to tell anyone what to do, does it? I am so looking forward to this album. #IlovedemStones. smileys with beer

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