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Jesse
"But it seems like they are actually playing like they have not in some time and that the tour is ending up a huge smash, not just financially, but philosophically as well. if you know what I mean."
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Please explain how a Rock tour can be a smash "philosophically". I don't understand that.
This tour is great for their legacy even though they didn't need to prove anything. They make almost every other rock band look weak. And good that they're making lots of $$$, I think they deserve every dollar or Euro they get. The tour IS a smash, but how is it so "philosophically"?
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Rokyfan
Sounds like Woody has finally broken out of his cliches? He had some tasty licks in Beast, where he could have been and formerly was lazy.
I was definitely skeptical. And there are still some numbers that are just a big snooze to me. But it seems like they are actually playing like they have not in some time and that the tour is ending up a huge smash, not just financially, but philosophically as well. if you know what I mean.
Your thoughts mirror my own. I was skeptical when the tour started but somehow they have managed to play with a ferocity that is both compelling and exciting.
I think its a combination of Ronnie finally coming into his own and Keith playing with confidence and more accuracy. I don't really see that much difference in anybody else's performance. Perhaps Mick is singing a bit better on some of the songs but he hasn't been consistently doing so, imo.
I just have to give the credit to the guitars. Better tone, louder in the mix and never quite the same, obviously a recipe for good Stones music.
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GS1978
DO NOT listen to the naysayers --- Go see this band before it's too late.
I think the naysayers and skeptics are dropping like flies. Too many consistently good performances at this point.
Not what I thought when listening back to the Milwaukee recording! Honky Tonk Women is an unbelievable mess, no band in ''top form'' should be able to mess it up like that. ''Champagne And Reefer'' was not a fraction of the performance on ''Shine A Light'' movie.
You sure know how to jump on things: two songs were an 'unbelievable mess'...
Well it's nothing new when I say the RS always managed to do that somehow.
Even in 1963, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, or '81, '89, '90, '95...and I'm sure you got some more examples.
Personally I have maybe four songs from yesterday or last week that weren't 100%.
But that's not what this is about. It's about too many consistently good performances and the enthusiasm and stuff like that.
It's not about the number of mistakes. Mistakes always happens, it's about how the mistakes happen. In the past they would always recover from a trainwreck start, in Milwaukee they never recovered,
First: the tempo of the song is set much slower because of Keith's mistake, in the past it would have returned to correct pace,
Second: Keith is playing in the wrong key during his solo, usually he dosen't do that If he flubbed the intro - it should sharpen his mind.
Third: Something odd happens to Charlie's drumming during Chuck's solo.
All in this doesn't look like a band which are firing on all cylinders. Still I must say last night seemed have been a better concert.
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"But it seems like they are actually playing like they have not in some time and that the tour is ending up a huge smash, not just financially, but philosophically as well. if you know what I mean."
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Please explain how a Rock tour can be a smash "philosophically". I don't understand that.
This tour is great for their legacy even though they didn't need to prove anything. They make almost every other rock band look weak. And good that they're making lots of $$$, I think they deserve every dollar or Euro they get. The tour IS a smash, but how is it so "philosophically"?
Possibly referencing this ancient press conference (@ 2:36):
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Rokyfan
Of course that was the reference. Tongue in cheek, but making a point which is I am NOT a cheerleader,
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Rokyfan
Please don't give me a thumbs up and then go on about 'whiners.' When i see that word I cringe. It is a substitute for a thoughtful comment, which is what I tried to do.
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GS1978
DO NOT listen to the naysayers --- Go see this band before it's too late.
I think the naysayers and skeptics are dropping like flies. Too many consistently good performances at this point.
Did anyone post this rave from the KC paper yet?
[www.kansascity.com]
Is anyone else doing anything close to what they are doing, just kicking the shit out of everything? I know the Who is on the road but I don't follow them or too many other bands. F Mac? It's not the same thing is it?
I watched the clip of Beast of Burden and even Sheeran didn't spoil it for me. I don't watch all the clips. Sounds like Woody has finally broken out of his cliches? He had some tasty licks in Beast, where he could have been and formerly was lazy.
I was definitely skeptical. And there are still some numbers that are just a big snooze to me. But it seems like they are actually playing like they have not in some time and that the tour is ending up a huge smash, not just financially, but philosophically as well. if you know what I mean.The whiners and naysayers have gone the way of the Mayans.
I agree, but do not agree that Ronnie was a disaster, in some concerts played well (Paradiso Amsterdam is an example), but in other concerts was just OK. Keith now has its own problems with the hands, Ronnie is sober and able to maintain high levels of the Stones. I think Mick is now happy to Ronnie.Quote
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Rokyfan
Sounds like Woody has finally broken out of his cliches? He had some tasty licks in Beast, where he could have been and formerly was lazy.
I was definitely skeptical. And there are still some numbers that are just a big snooze to me. But it seems like they are actually playing like they have not in some time and that the tour is ending up a huge smash, not just financially, but philosophically as well. if you know what I mean.
Your thoughts mirror my own. I was skeptical when the tour started but somehow they have managed to play with a ferocity that is both compelling and exciting.
I think its a combination of Ronnie finally coming into his own and Keith playing with confidence and more accuracy. I don't really see that much difference in anybody else's performance. Perhaps Mick is singing a bit better on some of the songs but he hasn't been consistently doing so, imo.
I just have to give the credit to the guitars. Better tone, louder in the mix and never quite the same, obviously a recipe for good Stones music.
I think it's Ronnie being on his 5th year of Sobriety that has made the huge difference. When has this ever happened in His career with the Stones ? Never. And we are not just talking about boozing it up either. Ronnie was a full partying mess in the past but now his clean living is paying off. He is on like never before ! He is an all out focused player now and it makes a huge difference. I don't think he was ever "lazy" , He was just whacked out. But now the Music just gets stronger every show with Him. Go Ronnie.
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Naturalust
[The person Mick takes the cellphone from] was probably someone from the crew. A total setup and part of the show,
meticulously executed to draw the audience into the performance.
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The Stones are doing great.
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Jesse
Please explain how a Rock tour can be a smash "philosophically". I don't understand that.
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DO NOT listen to the naysayers --- Go see this band before it's too late.
I think the naysayers and skeptics are dropping like flies. Too many consistently good performances at this point.
Did anyone post this rave from the KC paper yet?
[www.kansascity.com]
Is anyone else doing anything close to what they are doing, just kicking the shit out of everything? I know the Who is on the road but I don't follow them or too many other bands. F Mac? It's not the same thing is it?
I watched the clip of Beast of Burden and even Sheeran didn't spoil it for me. I don't watch all the clips. Sounds like Woody has finally broken out of his cliches? He had some tasty licks in Beast, where he could have been and formerly was lazy.
I was definitely skeptical. And there are still some numbers that are just a big snooze to me. But it seems like they are actually playing like they have not in some time and that the tour is ending up a huge smash, not just financially, but philosophically as well. if you know what I mean.The whiners and naysayers have gone the way of the Mayans.
Indeed the skeptical whiners have been proven wrong as can be. The Stones are doing great.
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Rokyfan
Of course that was the reference. Tongue in cheek, but making a point which is I am NOT a cheerleader,Quote
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Please don't give me a thumbs up and then go on about 'whiners.' When i see that word I cringe. It is a substitute for a thoughtful comment, which is what I tried to do.
As if using the term cheerleader is any better than using the term whiner. You and your buddy's constant double-standard finger wagging accusations are ridiculous.
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[The person Mick takes the cellphone from] was probably someone from the crew. A total setup and part of the show,
meticulously executed to draw the audience into the performance.
Awww don't say that! Even though I was wondering the same thing in a cynical little corner of my mind
It's hilarious anyway. I love the Rolling Stones
PS: Aha, so it is a crew member, and it goes on the big screen when he does it:
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And as I said above: It's hilarious anyway. And I love the Rolling Stones
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The periscope was expired for me so I couldn't see it--you are saying it was clearly a crew member who gave up the phone?
You know I didn't think Mick was so spontaneous to do something like that with a random fan,
didn't occur to me that it was a set-up. Thanks, you two. Very funny.
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Sounds like Woody has finally broken out of his cliches? He had some tasty licks in Beast, where he could have been and formerly was lazy.
I was definitely skeptical. And there are still some numbers that are just a big snooze to me. But it seems like they are actually playing like they have not in some time and that the tour is ending up a huge smash, not just financially, but philosophically as well. if you know what I mean.
Your thoughts mirror my own. I was skeptical when the tour started but somehow they have managed to play with a ferocity that is both compelling and exciting.
I think its a combination of Ronnie finally coming into his own and Keith playing with confidence and more accuracy. I don't really see that much difference in anybody else's performance. Perhaps Mick is singing a bit better on some of the songs but he hasn't been consistently doing so, imo.
I just have to give the credit to the guitars. Better tone, louder in the mix and never quite the same, obviously a recipe for good Stones music.
I think it's Ronnie being on his 5th year of Sobriety that has made the huge difference. When has this ever happened in His career with the Stones ? Never. And we are not just talking about boozing it up either. Ronnie was a full partying mess in the past but now his clean living is paying off. He is on like never before ! He is an all out focused player now and it makes a huge difference. I don't think he was ever "lazy" , He was just whacked out. But now the Music just gets stronger every show with Him. Go Ronnie.
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Setlist from Kansas City, MO
There she is: our IORR reporter of the month!
Do you know that lots of people here are right now listening to the persicope feed you broadcasted? Someone managed to capture it and put it on a wetransfer for everyone available.
[www.iorr.org]
You did a great job with recording that show Mackenzie!
And the rest of your accomplishments indeed are MAGIC.
Thank you so much!
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