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Ringo or Charlie ?

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stanlove we get it. You play the same record over and over. Perhaps time to lift the needed and change the song? Washed up by 73? That's a laugh. Walls and Bridges was fantastic and got him his first number one in the US, Whatever Gets You Through the Night. Bobby Keys playing some awesome sax on that too. You have said in the past he is self absorbed and who would like that...well another way to look at it is that he shares the human experience with his fans. His trials, tribulations, love, and hate all resonate with others because they can related to those same human experiences. Self absorbed? or sharing from the heart making a connection to others.

I think most his songs on DF were very high quality, I just didn't like the production and much prefer the naked version that was releases a few years ago. But as for vocals go, he still had his chops. Listen to I'm Losing You then (Just Like) Starting Over and you hear such a range from howling rock to classic Elvis inspired rockabilly. Oh, and for some other great vocals from a guy washed up listen to his version of Stand By Me from Rock n' Roll. Fantastic vocals on that.

Nobody is forcing you to read my post correct? Guys like you kill me. If someone says something nice about Lennon its ok but if someone says anything not ice about him then they are out of line. Actually its ok to feel anyway you want about Lennon and to post it

Your another way to look at its is laughable to me. basically saying he was doing us a favor by being a narcissist. Yeah I want to hear more about Yoko and your relationship with her. Please tell us more about your stay at home father duties. Spell binding stuff. But again here Lennon gets credit for rambling on about himself. Your just the type of person I was talking about.


Can you tell me how many copies of Wall and bridges sold? If you think Whatever gets You Through the Night is a real good song then I don't know what to tell you.

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No contest. John was great, but lacked Mick's power and versatility when singing rock'n'roll, imo.

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No contest. John was great, but lacked Mick's power and versatility when singing rock'n'roll, imo.

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OK let's get this into prespective.

Seems like you are comparing Beatles _Lennon with - Stones - Jagger 1980's onwards.
Ok let's compare a similar time period, Did the Beatles make four better studio albums than, Beggars Banquet - Let It Bleed - Exile On Main Street - Sticky Fingers? - Did they make a better live album than - Get Yer Ya Ya's Out.? - I don't think so.

Better Rock 'n' Roll Vocalist - Jagger or Lennon.? well I know that Jaggers voice was more suited to the Stones than lennon's would ever have been, and that's all that matters on a Stones board. Since you are pressing on a Better Vocalist - well look no futher than Dan McCaffertey of Nazareth.

Would the Beatles be able to cut it in 2015 without technoligy - give me a break! , does Paul McCarntney dye his hair? how far do yo want to go. There is only one 'Greatest Rock'n' Roll Band in the World'- ladies and Gentlemen-'The Rolling Stones'

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No contest. John was great, but lacked Mick's power and versatility when singing rock'n'roll, imo.

And Mick can't dance for shit. Even if he tries too hard.





On the contrary, look at those moves:




Morrissey is an Elvis impersonator




And a Sinatra impersonator




Now if you want to impress us with Mick Jagger's so called "versatility", try again!

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OK let's get this into prespective.

Seems like you are comparing Beatles _Lennon with - Stones - Jagger 1980's onwards.
Ok let's compare a similar time period, Did the Beatles make four better studio albums than, Beggars Banquet - Let It Bleed - Exile On Main Street - Sticky Fingers? - Did they make a better live album than - Get Yer Ya Ya's Out.? - I don't think so.

Better Rock 'n' Roll Vocalist - Jagger or Lennon.? well I know that Jaggers voice was more suited to the Stones than lennon's would ever have been, and that's all that matters on a Stones board. Since you are pressing on a Better Vocalist - well look no futher than Dan McCaffertey of Nazareth.

Would the Beatles be able to cut it in 2015 without technoligy - give me a break! , does Paul McCarntney dye his hair? how far do yo want to go. There is only one 'Greatest Rock'n' Roll Band in the World'- ladies and Gentlemen-'The Rolling Stones'

Thru-out Micks career up to this day he does not come close to Lennon 63-70
End of Story - Mick is the maestro master of the B Team.

Dan McCaffertey of Nazareth >>> C Team Non-Factor[/quot

AH we have resorted to a.b.c.. teams based on your opinion,could you please answer the question and let me me know of at least 4 better studio albums and a better live album from your B team.End of Story. And how does Dan McCaffertey become C league.? Intrigued.

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Musically the Stones are great...but this prancing around has always been a joke...he makes the Stones look like a fag band...

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Everybody keeps bringing up Lennons solo stuff...Do you really think Jaggers solo stuff is anywhere near good...Jagger solo is not anywhere near the caliber of Lennons solo.

Another thing to keep in mind...Do you really think that what you are hearing at Stones live shows is Micks actual voice...come on it is so technically enhanced it is a joke.

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stanlove, I really don't care how you feel, but I will debate the points with you. Yeah, I am one of those kind of guys. You just often seem to troll around to be purposefully negative, or overly opinionated. And yeah I do like Whatever Gets you Through the Night. So I guess that is it, in your mind I am written off. And you really missed the entire point. As you often do. Why? I can't pretend to know how you approach critical thinking but often you seem angry, frustrated and just plane mean. But that's your journey.
Yeah, a lot of people will listen to Lennon and relate to his story. Will listen to how deeply he loves someone and think about their love in their lives, and how that song, or lyric resonates with their own life experience. Some of the best music in the world is narcissistic and speaks to people's own lives and common experiences. But that is a deep level of emotional intelligence you seem to lack. But hey its cool stanlove... at least you have love in your name.

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Your another way to look at its is laughable to me. basically saying he was doing us a favor by being a narcissist. Yeah I want to hear more about Yoko and your relationship with her. Please tell us more about your stay at home father duties. Spell binding stuff. But again here Lennon gets credit for rambling on about himself. Your just the type of person I was talking about.

Sure he was a narcissist, and a boring one at that. He wrote a song called "God" in which, in tedious fashion, he recites all the people he doesn't believe in (Jesus, Kennedy, Yoga (!)) except himself and his shrill-throated girlfriend. Then he announces as "the dreamweaver" that the dream is dead, that he was the walrus but now he's John and for now on we just have to "carry on."

Can you imagine Mick Jagger singing this narcissistic drivel?

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Your another way to look at its is laughable to me. basically saying he was doing us a favor by being a narcissist. Yeah I want to hear more about Yoko and your relationship with her. Please tell us more about your stay at home father duties. Spell binding stuff. But again here Lennon gets credit for rambling on about himself. Your just the type of person I was talking about.

Sure he was a narcissist, and a boring one at that. He wrote a song called "God" in which, in tedious fashion, he recites all the people he doesn't believe in (Jesus, Kennedy, Yoga (!)) except himself and his shrill-throated girlfriend. Then he announces as "the dreamweaver" that the dream is dead, that he was the walrus but now he's John and for now on we just have to "carry on."

Can you imagine Mick Jagger singing this narcissistic drivel?

I have never seen anyone like Lennon when it came to stuff like this. He was such a narcissist that he never could see this. Sad thing was way too many people couldn't see it about Lennon.

I remember watching an interview with Harrison once when Harrison was informed that Lennon said that Lennon was Harrison's hero in the early days. I willo ever forget the look on Harrison's face. If I remember correctly he was speechless for a few seconds, thought it was pathetic that anyone could make a statement like that, and he was embarrassed for Lennon.

The same guy who said this..Amazing..


It's the Muhammad Ali line, you know. I couldn't sing it, but it was perfect for Ringo. He could say 'I'm the greatest' and people wouldn't get upset. Whereas if I said 'I'm the greatest,' they'd all take it so seriously.

John Lennon, 1980
All We Are Saying, David Sheff

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Everybody keeps bringing up Lennons solo stuff...Do you really think Jaggers solo stuff is anywhere near good...Jagger solo is not anywhere near the caliber of Lennons solo.

Another thing to keep in mind...Do you really think that what you are hearing at Stones live shows is Micks actual voice...come on it is so technically enhanced it is a joke.

Lennon starting writing solo music in the 1960s. Doesn't make sense to compare it to Jagger who didn't start his solo career until much later. We can compare what Jagger was doing in the 1970s with what Lennon was doing at the time.

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Your another way to look at its is laughable to me. basically saying he was doing us a favor by being a narcissist. Yeah I want to hear more about Yoko and your relationship with her. Please tell us more about your stay at home father duties. Spell binding stuff. But again here Lennon gets credit for rambling on about himself. Your just the type of person I was talking about.

Sure he was a narcissist, and a boring one at that. He wrote a song called "God" in which, in tedious fashion, he recites all the people he doesn't believe in (Jesus, Kennedy, Yoga (!)) except himself and his shrill-throated girlfriend. Then he announces as "the dreamweaver" that the dream is dead, that he was the walrus but now he's John and for now on we just have to "carry on."

Can you imagine Mick Jagger singing this narcissistic drivel?

I have never seen anyone like Lennon when it came to stuff like this. He was such a narcissist that he never could see this. Sad thing was way too many people couldn't see it about Lennon.

I remember watching an interview with Harrison once when Harrison was informed that Lennon said that Lennon was Harrison's hero in the early days. I willo ever forget the look on Harrison's face. If I remember correctly he was speechless for a few seconds, thought it was pathetic that anyone could make a statement like that, and he was embarrassed for Lennon.

The same guy who said this..Amazing..


It's the Muhammad Ali line, you know. I couldn't sing it, but it was perfect for Ringo. He could say 'I'm the greatest' and people wouldn't get upset. Whereas if I said 'I'm the greatest,' they'd all take it so seriously.

John Lennon, 1980
All We Are Saying, David Sheff

Harrison idolized Lennon..as did everyone that came out of England to follow...
It is a well known fact...

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Everybody keeps bringing up Lennons solo stuff...Do you really think Jaggers solo stuff is anywhere near good...Jagger solo is not anywhere near the caliber of Lennons solo.

Another thing to keep in mind...Do you really think that what you are hearing at Stones live shows is Micks actual voice...come on it is so technically enhanced it is a joke.

Lennon starting writing solo music in the 1960s. Doesn't make sense to compare it to Jagger who didn't start his solo career until much later. We can compare what Jagger was doing in the 1970s with what Lennon was doing at the time.

No comparison when it comes to Lyrics - ZERO...A COMPLETE NON-SUBJECT
Unless you want to have a go at it...Keith wrote most of it...

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No contest. John was great, but lacked Mick's power and versatility when singing rock'n'roll, imo.

I have hard time with the power or versatility aspect...he is really just talk-singing.

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Musically the Stones are great...but this prancing around has always been a joke...he makes the Stones look like a fag band...

What, pray tell, is an example of "a fag band"?

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You know, just the other day I heard "You Can't do That.". I go way back obviously. What a great job John did but it's like comparing apples to oranges. Both great!!!

IF I ruled the world you would be banned from the internet for 10 years. Nothing gets older then people claiming its apples to oranges everytime a comparison is brought up. Really rating 2 rock singers who were around at the same time is apples and oranges? Nonesense it is.

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Lennon and McCartney were/are great rock n' roll singers. Lennon shreds Twist and Shout, Dizzy Miss Lizzy, Bad Boy, Everybody's Got Something to Hide Accept Me and My Monkey, Revolution, and for blues I also forgot I Want You (She's So Heavy). All great vocals.