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Lennon could never sing Wild Horses, or Tumbling Dice. Mick has way more soul.

Mick all the way.

True. Like Jagger could never sing "Mother" or "Cold Turkey" with the same guts either. Pointless discussion. Music is not a contest.

Jagger could never sing Cold Turkey? Why would you say that?

Another one I would ban from the internet. Itsn a competition if someone is asking which one was a better singer.

Because Jagger wouldn't have sung Cold Turkey in the same approach as Lennon.
Just as Lennon wouldn't have approached Wild Horses the way Jagger did.
That's what makes them great in their own respective fields.

And that's why I campaign for the reason that music is not a contest by any means. It's about aestethics. Something appeals to you and something does not.
You can have a favorite or a preferation, either way there will not be a definitive answer.

I enjoy both, but there are other singers I prefer a lot more than Jagger or Lennon.

Feel free to ban me... ;-)

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The thing about Lennon is, if he hadn't died prematurely, everyone would think he was horrible. He was on an extreme downward projectery at the time of his death. His last album was hideous.

Sound like your about 14...am I correct ????

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Jagger of course.
The Beatles is not in the same category of greatness as The Stones is. No other band is.
It annoys me that people even compare them.
Jagger could probably sing The Beatles songs really good, while Lennon singing Stones songs would have been awful.

My guess is that your about 13 years old....Correct
I can tell by your grammer...
The Beatles is not in the same category of greatness as The Stones is

Without the Beatles the Stones would just be retiring from their 9-5's.
And the Stones would be the first to admit it.

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The thing about Lennon is, if he hadn't died prematurely, everyone would think he was horrible. He was on an extreme downward projectery at the time of his death. His last album was hideous.

Yep getting murdered was a great career move :-(

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I wonder on a Beatles board how many people would pick Jagger?

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I wonder on a Beatles board how many people would pick Jagger?

. This is a good point. It is amazing how this website is open and Musically educated. Hundreds of thread about other bands , concert revues ... I think we discussed more here about ac-Dc drummer than in any ac-dc fans page. Other website like this are like "religious" pages, very boring. Sometimes (included myself ) we are so critic towards the Stones that for other bands' fans i think is difficult to understand

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And to say he was on an extreme downward spiral is just not true. He was actually awakening to a new and exciting career, full of plans and projects. He was going to tour. Which would have been huge. He planned on reuniting with The Beatles to work on Anthology. He even talked about getting back with Paul to write again. None of this came to pass because of a lone madman in search of his own fame. A sad historical footnote to Lennon's amazing body of work.

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And to say he was on an extreme downward spiral is just not true. He was actually awakening to a new and exciting career, full of plans and projects. He was going to tour. Which would have been huge. He planned on reuniting with The Beatles to work on Anthology. He even talked about getting back with Paul to write again. None of this came to pass because of a lone madman in search of his own fame. A sad historical footnote to Lennon's amazing body of work.

Because he planned to do things means nothing. A ton of crap artists plan to do things. Would anything Lennon would have done past 1980 been worth a crap? Who knows..

Lennon was considered washed up after about 1973 and yes I am old enough to remember. Double fantasy was some what of a comeback and it took off because he was killed and only because he was killed. look at the sales numbers and when they sold.

There were about 3 songs on there that were better then anything he had written in a long time but that doesn't mean much because he hadn't done anything worth while in a long time. Personally I can't stand listening to a Narcissist constantly sing or talk about themselves, I avoid them at work also. So I had no use for Lennon at all. I could never figure out how anyone could be interested in a guy who is so self obsorbed that its basically all they are about, themselves. A guy does nothing bout talk about himself and wife and try to make a name for himself and his wife and people consider him interested and a hero. Could never figure that out.

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stanlove we get it. You play the same record over and over. Perhaps time to lift the needed and change the song? Washed up by 73? That's a laugh. Walls and Bridges was fantastic and got him his first number one in the US, Whatever Gets You Through the Night. Bobby Keys playing some awesome sax on that too. You have said in the past he is self absorbed and who would like that...well another way to look at it is that he shares the human experience with his fans. His trials, tribulations, love, and hate all resonate with others because they can related to those same human experiences. Self absorbed? or sharing from the heart making a connection to others.

I think most his songs on DF were very high quality, I just didn't like the production and much prefer the naked version that was releases a few years ago. But as for vocals go, he still had his chops. Listen to I'm Losing You then (Just Like) Starting Over and you hear such a range from howling rock to classic Elvis inspired rockabilly. Oh, and for some other great vocals from a guy washed up listen to his version of Stand By Me from Rock n' Roll. Fantastic vocals on that.

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stanlove we get it. You play the same record over and over. Perhaps time to lift the needed and change the song? Washed up by 73? That's a laugh. Walls and Bridges was fantastic and got him his first number one in the US, Whatever Gets You Through the Night. Bobby Keys playing some awesome sax on that too. You have said in the past he is self absorbed and who would like that...well another way to look at it is that he shares the human experience with his fans. His trials, tribulations, love, and hate all resonate with others because they can related to those same human experiences. Self absorbed? or sharing from the heart making a connection to others.

I think most his songs on DF were very high quality, I just didn't like the production and much prefer the naked version that was releases a few years ago. But as for vocals go, he still had his chops. Listen to I'm Losing You then (Just Like) Starting Over and you hear such a range from howling rock to classic Elvis inspired rockabilly. Oh, and for some other great vocals from a guy washed up listen to his version of Stand By Me from Rock n' Roll. Fantastic vocals on that.

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But hey its cool stanlove... at least you have love in your name.

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Your another way to look at its is laughable to me. basically saying he was doing us a favor by being a narcissist. Yeah I want to hear more about Yoko and your relationship with her. Please tell us more about your stay at home father duties. Spell binding stuff. But again here Lennon gets credit for rambling on about himself. Your just the type of person I was talking about.

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Your another way to look at its is laughable to me. basically saying he was doing us a favor by being a narcissist. Yeah I want to hear more about Yoko and your relationship with her. Please tell us more about your stay at home father duties. Spell binding stuff. But again here Lennon gets credit for rambling on about himself. Your just the type of person I was talking about.

Sure he was a narcissist, and a boring one at that. He wrote a song called "God" in which, in tedious fashion, he recites all the people he doesn't believe in (Jesus, Kennedy, Yoga (!)) except himself and his shrill-throated girlfriend. Then he announces as "the dreamweaver" that the dream is dead, that he was the walrus but now he's John and for now on we just have to "carry on."

Can you imagine Mick Jagger singing this narcissistic drivel?

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Jeeze The Smiths when we're discussing 2 of the best rock-singers of all times...why not Herman Hermit's?

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Jeeze The Smiths when we're discussing 2 of the best rock-singers of all times...why not Herman Hermit's?

Morrissey, a bad rock singer? Are you serious, mate? Have you ever listened to the single Interlude, for f-uck's sake? Or I Know It's Over? When it comes to vocal technique, Céline Dion is much better. But Morrissey has great voice inflexions, and his diction is funny as hell, often pathetic in a good way. For the tongue-in-cheek lyrics I would suggest Girlfriend In A Coma. There are many details I love about Morrissey's singing voice, mostly his accent, the drama queen effects, the yodel parts, and how he pronounces the "r" in songs like 'A Rush And A Push...'

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I love them both. But Lennon. His voice was masterful. So full of force and edge, and when needed tender. Also a very versatile vocalist. Jagger is great for The Stones and for some of his solo stuff. But he also often relies on very dramatic vocalizing almost boarding on satire. And Jagger just does not have the vocal range Lennon did.

I think your point that Lennon was a versatile vocalist is true as far as the many styles of music he could tackle. However, when it comes to interpreting the genre of blues/rhythm and blues, I think Jagger has it over Lennon.

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Both are great in their own ways. Jagger is a crawling king snake, Lennon is a howler.

It's like comparing McKinley Morganfield (Muddy Waters) with Chester Burnett (Howling Wolf).

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Here are some ideas to help you sleep tonight:

First level of consciousness:
- Both were great.

2nd level of consciousness:
- Both were crap, Elvis was way better.

3rd level of consciousness
- Billy Idol has the best rock 'n' roll voice, actually

4th level of consciousness:
- Rock'n'roll is crap, you'd better listen to Kanye

Wow your kool, you go thru different levels of consciousness:
But you grade a zero on accurate insight ????
I haven't slept properly since 78" right after they toured behind Some Girls....
Back when they toured behind albums that weren't 44 years old...

They aren't touring behind Sticky Fingers.