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About that Wood/Taylor axis... (which seemingly works damn well...)

It was also news to me that Jagger contacted Taylor in 1977 and asked him to join the band if Keith will be locked away (my imagination just can't grasp what it would have been like...)

Interesting that there is also that rumour already from 1973, coming from Nicky Hopkins (!) if memory serves, that Jagger was considering replacing Keith with Ronnie... No idea if that has any truth, but who knows if Jagger really had some sort of Plan B in his mind when Keith's course on dopeville started to look tragical... Who knows if Ronnie's - the most Keith Richards-like of British guitarists - actual choice in 1975 was to get a potential substitute to Keith, just in case...

Strong speculation...

- Doxa

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Doxa
About that Wood/Taylor axis... (which seemingly works damn well...)

It was also news to me that Jagger contacted Taylor in 1977 and asked him to join the band if Keith will be locked away (my imagination just can't grasp what it would have been like...)

Interesting that there is also that rumour already from 1973, coming from Nicky Hopkins (!) if memory serves, that Jagger was considering replacing Keith with Ronnie... No idea if that has any truth, but who knows if Jagger really had some sort of Plan B in his mind when Keith's course on dopeville started to look tragical... Who knows if Ronnie's - the most Keith Richards-like of British guitarists - actual choice in 1975 was to get a potential substitute to Keith, just in case...

Strong speculation...

- Doxa

It makes complete sense. MJ strikes me as someone that would always have a 'Plan B'.

With his own song writing and collaborations with MT being very strong, I'm sure he had the confidence that if for some reason Keith wasn't around (he was perennially on top of that list of celebrities most likely to die), that he would continue the band, and Ronnie probably would have been a logical choice. Fortunately for all concerned that never materialized.

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Speaking of Taylor/Wood, I was revisiting the Jimmy Reed shows the other day, hadn't seen this one before - totally brilliant:

Awesome. Thanks for sharing. Is this what weaving is about? Woody plays better when he is together with Taylor. And Jagger should pick up the phone and get Taylor back on the road

Somtimes he does, sometimes he doesn't. It's not a constant

Agree, i just got a little blown away for a while listening to that clip

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Doxa
About that Wood/Taylor axis... (which seemingly works damn well...)

It was also news to me that Jagger contacted Taylor in 1977 and asked him to join the band if Keith will be locked away (my imagination just can't grasp what it would have been like...)

Interesting that there is also that rumour already from 1973, coming from Nicky Hopkins (!) if memory serves, that Jagger was considering replacing Keith with Ronnie... No idea if that has any truth, but who knows if Jagger really had some sort of Plan B in his mind when Keith's course on dopeville started to look tragical... Who knows if Ronnie's - the most Keith Richards-like of British guitarists - actual choice in 1975 was to get a potential substitute to Keith, just in case...

Strong speculation...

- Doxa

Indeed! Two of the most interesting things that I learned on this board in the last couple of years, if they are true, was Jagger arrived at Taylor's doorstep at some point (when Taylor was still in the band) and reportedly in tears wishing he could fire Keith. And the other thing is it was Jagger who insisted Ronnie Wood join the band after Taylor left. Keith was reportedly concerned Ronnie and himself were too similar in style.

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Jagger initiated the axis between Taylor and Wood while keith was recovering from his accident and it was uncertain that Keith could return. This was clear to me then and there were some hints from Wood early on that gave that impression. Jagger is playing all the fields with his guitarists, his desire to perform as The RS sees beyond Keith. I had always thought Keith was holding this Taylor thing back but now I'm not so certain. Taylor and Wood do play great together, playing in The Stones seems to make musicians uptight these days. Maybe The Glimmers should think about that, still it's nice to see they care enough to argue about musical issues., .

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About that Wood/Taylor axis... (which seemingly works damn well...)

It was also news to me that Jagger contacted Taylor in 1977 and asked him to join the band if Keith will be locked away (my imagination just can't grasp what it would have been like...)

Interesting that there is also that rumour already from 1973, coming from Nicky Hopkins (!) if memory serves, that Jagger was considering replacing Keith with Ronnie... No idea if that has any truth, but who knows if Jagger really had some sort of Plan B in his mind when Keith's course on dopeville started to look tragical... Who knows if Ronnie's - the most Keith Richards-like of British guitarists - actual choice in 1975 was to get a potential substitute to Keith, just in case...

Strong speculation...

- Doxa

It makes complete sense. MJ strikes me as someone that would always have a 'Plan B'.

With his own song writing and collaborations with MT being very strong, I'm sure he had the confidence that if for some reason Keith wasn't around (he was perennially on top of that list of celebrities most likely to die), that he would continue the band, and Ronnie probably would have been a logical choice. Fortunately for all concerned that never materialized.

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Speaking of Taylor/Wood, I was revisiting the Jimmy Reed shows the other day, hadn't seen this one before - totally brilliant:

Awesome. Thanks for sharing. Is this what weaving is about? Woody plays better when he is together with Taylor. And Jagger should pick up the phone and get Taylor back on the road

Somtimes he does, sometimes he doesn't. It's not a constant

Agree, i just got a little blown away for a while listening to that clip

It's stunning - both guitars sound great and the solos compliment each other wonderfully. Also, the Albert Hall always gives you that amazing cauldron-of-sound effect - speaking of which, was this the first time either of them played there? I feel Ronnie probably has at some point but can't think when MT might have. Can someone tell me?

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The Strat in the video is a '55 hardtail. He has two (the other is a '54). This one was his backup for a while and briefly in the hands of Jimmy Page's tech, I believe, with a view to a refin that never actually happened. Since Wood got it back, it's become his number one.

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The Strat in the video is a '55 hardtail. He has two (the other is a '54). This one was his backup for a while and briefly in the hands of Jimmy Page's tech, I believe, with a view to a refin that never actually happened. Since Wood got it back, it's become his number one.

Thanks. I have a 55 refin but not a hard tail... the early ones are much thicker sounding than the later 50's ones. Nice to know I like the same stuff as Wood...

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The Strat in the video is a '55 hardtail. He has two (the other is a '54). This one was his backup for a while and briefly in the hands of Jimmy Page's tech, I believe, with a view to a refin that never actually happened. Since Wood got it back, it's become his number one.

Thanks. I have a 55 refin but not a hard tail... the early ones are much thicker sounding than the later 50's ones. Nice to know I like the same stuff as Wood...

Would you consider sharing some photos of your guitars sometime? Think you mentioned having an old Les Paul as well - it sounds like you have some very nice stuff indeed.

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Thank you for posting the liver performance clips. It is clear that they compliment one another very well. I, too, would see a Taylor/woods show. Something to hope for.

If you have more clips of the these two it would be great to see them. They go along way in showing that it's not always an either/or issue with Taylor and Woods. We, as fans, can have both.

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There are three great Rolling Stones guitarists with us (four with Mick J.). They play well together and clearly have a great deal of affection for each other... Pity that doesn't overcome whatever other issues there are having Mick T, with them...No one wins in this scenario...Sigh.

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Keith Richards played an incredible rhythm guitar (and solo guitars) until about 1979 when the band played Live, but after that I think he is more of a showman who shows with gestures and moods that he plays good guitar, and up to 79 had Stones fared well with almost any side-guitarist, but after-79 Ronnie Wood is an absolute necessity to preserve the sound which is The Rolling Stones ' s.

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Keith Richards played an incredible rhythm guitar (and solo guitars) until about 1979 when the band played Live, but after that I think he is more of a showman who shows with gestures and moods that he plays good guitar, and up to 79 had Stones fared well with almost any side-guitarist, but after-79 Ronnie Wood is an absolute necessity to preserve the sound which is The Rolling Stones ' s.

Didn't you listen to Hampton 81 the other day?

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Keith Richards played an incredible rhythm guitar (and solo guitars) until about 1979 when the band played Live, but after that I think he is more of a showman who shows with gestures and moods that he plays good guitar, and up to 79 had Stones fared well with almost any side-guitarist, but after-79 Ronnie Wood is an absolute necessity to preserve the sound which is The Rolling Stones ' s.

Didn't you listen to Hampton 81 the other day?

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Keith Richards played an incredible rhythm guitar (and solo guitars) until about 1979 when the band played Live, but after that I think he is more of a showman who shows with gestures and moods that he plays good guitar, and up to 79 had Stones fared well with almost any side-guitarist, but after-79 Ronnie Wood is an absolute necessity to preserve the sound which is The Rolling Stones ' s.

Didn't you listen to Hampton 81 the other day?

Sure, and found out how incredible good Bill is/were/was...

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Keith Richards played an incredible rhythm guitar (and solo guitars) until about 1979 when the band played Live, but after that I think he is more of a showman who shows with gestures and moods that he plays good guitar, and up to 79 had Stones fared well with almost any side-guitarist, but after-79 Ronnie Wood is an absolute necessity to preserve the sound which is The Rolling Stones ' s.

Didn't you listen to Hampton 81 the other day?

Sure, and found out how incredible good Bill is/were/was...

Absolutely! But in fairness, I think good ol' Keith deserves a mention, too

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Keith Richards played an incredible rhythm guitar (and solo guitars) until about 1979 when the band played Live, but after that I think he is more of a showman who shows with gestures and moods that he plays good guitar, and up to 79 had Stones fared well with almost any side-guitarist, but after-79 Ronnie Wood is an absolute necessity to preserve the sound which is The Rolling Stones ' s.

Didn't you listen to Hampton 81 the other day?

Sure, and found out how incredible good Bill is/were/was...

Absolutely! But in fairness, I think good ol' Keith deserves a mention, too

Particularly on Leeds '82. One of the best Keith-efforts I know. '89 onwards is a decline without any doubt, but this is also due to the MJ-induced Vegas-concept - less guitars, more Chuck and brass section ... the entire mess that quenched the original fire of the band.

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I agree that Keith was quite good in '81. This was the last completely pre-Vegas tour, before the post-Restoration Concordat that gave us basically the formula we still have today. They were also promoting good contemporary hit product (Tattoo You) which they haven't done in - how long? In a way, I don't consider the Stones after Bill's leaving "legitimate". Losing a founding member in 1969, and his great replacement in 1974 was bad, but breaking up the rhythm section was something they never quite recovered from musically, in my opinion, though it has certainly not harmed their appeal as a commercial touring juggernaut.