Tell Me :
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Recorded live at Death Valley Stadium, Clemson, South Carolina on November 26, 1989 and has never been released officially anywhere else.
"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"
Brilliant! Perhaps it is "mispressings" that are the rarest. How many of these "mispressings" or mistakenly-released tracks are out there?
stonesstein
Kick me like you did before
I can't even feel the pain no more
Rocks Off, 1972
It´s also available on a 7" for the "foof benefit", backed
by a great version of Tom Jones and New Model Army.
Got that one! There are a few others in that style as well, I'll have to look at my collection to see which ones they are.
I think the rarest officially pressed, but pulled from release has to be their second single, Poison Ivy/Fortune Teller.
If that one doesn't fit within the criteria, then the I Wanna Be Your Man/Stoned US promo single.
I don't imagine that the cassette accounted for many of the sales!
It was released as part of the "Putting Our House In Order" charity project which aimed to raise money for various homeless charities. To comply with chart regulations this was released in four different formats, 2 CD singles (Rock and Indie), a 12" single (Dance) and a cassette single (Pop) featuring twelve different artists performing the Stones classic. The interview track was common to all formats to further comply with chart rules.
The 7" vinyl was a juke-box only copy hence the unpainted injection moulded label.
"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2015-02-01 20:45 by Deltics.
Well, I'll put my hand up as someone who bought it in all formats the day it came out. Strangely, and much to my surprise, just about all of the interpretations of the song are good, and a couple are excellent. I burnt them all onto one CD a few years back, and it's definitely a good listen.
Oddly I'm doing some "reorganising" at the moment, and two copies of the cassette are in front of me while I try to find a smart place to store them safely.
--
Captain Corella
60 Years a Fan
Nope, it got a wider release on this.
"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"
Not really official since they didn't use the master for the release...
It was officially released anyhow. They didn't have the best/complete master for I Think I'm Going Mad either (the intro). It was released, and it is rare.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2015-02-02 12:00 by DandelionPowderman.
We all know the story here.
But it wasn't issued from a master at all, but copied from a boot...
So, if it is official on the paper, it is not really on material source terms (imho).
They even didn't give a matrix number to the SP.
That is the question indeed.
The problem is that we are so stupid that we buy those releases. So what could have remained obscurity becomes.... (fill inn)
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Rarest Officially Released Stones Track?
Posted by:
stonesstein
()
Date: February 1, 2015 17:28
Perhaps there is a thread on this topic, but I cannot find it. I am curious as to what might be considered the "rarest" officially-released Stones' track?
It could be a "variation" like the longer version of Slave on some reissued CDs, C---sucker Blues white-label single with the West German box set of the 80s, or even the version of Tell Me Baby How Many More times from the same box set.
On the other hand, it could be the unique "first-pressing" mix of Street Fighting Man from the promos and initial US release.
Would it be something released only in one specific format never to be seen again like Beast of Burden from the Some Girls US 8-track or Pretty Beat Up from the Undercover cassette?
There are some incredibly rare test pressing versions such as the Rocks Off/All Down the Line and Happy/Shine a Light Mono 45s, but those were not really "released" or available to the general public. Where does one draw the line?
All of this is to beg the question - what do you think?
Cheers to all!
stonesstein
Kick me like you did before
I can't even feel the pain no more
Rocks Off, 1972
It could be a "variation" like the longer version of Slave on some reissued CDs, C---sucker Blues white-label single with the West German box set of the 80s, or even the version of Tell Me Baby How Many More times from the same box set.
On the other hand, it could be the unique "first-pressing" mix of Street Fighting Man from the promos and initial US release.
Would it be something released only in one specific format never to be seen again like Beast of Burden from the Some Girls US 8-track or Pretty Beat Up from the Undercover cassette?
There are some incredibly rare test pressing versions such as the Rocks Off/All Down the Line and Happy/Shine a Light Mono 45s, but those were not really "released" or available to the general public. Where does one draw the line?
All of this is to beg the question - what do you think?
Cheers to all!
stonesstein
Kick me like you did before
I can't even feel the pain no more
Rocks Off, 1972
Re: Rarest Officially Released Stones Track?
Posted by:
TooTough
()
Date: February 1, 2015 17:47
To me:
The long Tell Me I (on the first pressings of 1st album UK)
and
Brown Sugar/Wild Horses (on the misprints of the US Hot Rocks).
The long Tell Me I (on the first pressings of 1st album UK)
and
Brown Sugar/Wild Horses (on the misprints of the US Hot Rocks).
Re: Rarest Officially Released Stones Track?
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: February 1, 2015 17:48
Through The Lonely Nights.
Re: Rarest Officially Released Stones Track?
Posted by:
Deltics
()
Date: February 1, 2015 17:53
Recorded live at Death Valley Stadium, Clemson, South Carolina on November 26, 1989 and has never been released officially anywhere else.
"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"
Re: Rarest Officially Released Stones Track?
Posted by:
stonesstein
()
Date: February 1, 2015 17:54
Quote
TooTough
To me:
The long Tell Me I (on the first pressings of 1st album UK)
and
Brown Sugar/Wild Horses (on the misprints of the US Hot Rocks).
Brilliant! Perhaps it is "mispressings" that are the rarest. How many of these "mispressings" or mistakenly-released tracks are out there?
stonesstein
Kick me like you did before
I can't even feel the pain no more
Rocks Off, 1972
Re: Rarest Officially Released Stones Track?
Posted by:
TooTough
()
Date: February 1, 2015 18:34
Quote
Deltics
Recorded live at Death Valley Stadium, Clemson, South Carolina on November 26, 1989 and has never been released officially anywhere else.
It´s also available on a 7" for the "foof benefit", backed
by a great version of Tom Jones and New Model Army.
Re: Rarest Officially Released Stones Track?
Posted by:
kait
()
Date: February 1, 2015 19:06
Quote
TooTough
It´s also available on a 7" for the "foof benefit", backed
by a great version of Tom Jones and New Model Army.
Re: Rarest Officially Released Stones Track?
Posted by:
georgelicks
()
Date: February 1, 2015 19:44
That "Gimme Shelter" single reached #23 on the UK Singles chart on April 1993.
[www.officialcharts.com]
[www.officialcharts.com]
Re: Rarest Officially Released Stones Track?
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: February 1, 2015 19:53
Quote
kaitQuote
TooTough
It´s also available on a 7" for the "foof benefit", backed
by a great version of Tom Jones and New Model Army.
Got that one! There are a few others in that style as well, I'll have to look at my collection to see which ones they are.
I think the rarest officially pressed, but pulled from release has to be their second single, Poison Ivy/Fortune Teller.
If that one doesn't fit within the criteria, then the I Wanna Be Your Man/Stoned US promo single.
Re: Rarest Officially Released Stones Track?
Posted by:
Deltics
()
Date: February 1, 2015 20:20
Quote
georgelicks
That "Gimme Shelter" single reached #23 on the UK Singles chart on April 1993.
[www.officialcharts.com]
I don't imagine that the cassette accounted for many of the sales!
It was released as part of the "Putting Our House In Order" charity project which aimed to raise money for various homeless charities. To comply with chart regulations this was released in four different formats, 2 CD singles (Rock and Indie), a 12" single (Dance) and a cassette single (Pop) featuring twelve different artists performing the Stones classic. The interview track was common to all formats to further comply with chart rules.
The 7" vinyl was a juke-box only copy hence the unpainted injection moulded label.
"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2015-02-01 20:45 by Deltics.
Re: Rarest Officially Released Stones Track?
Posted by:
CaptainCorella
()
Date: February 1, 2015 22:47
Quote
DelticsQuote
georgelicks
That "Gimme Shelter" single reached #23 on the UK Singles chart on April 1993.
[www.officialcharts.com]
I don't imagine that the cassette accounted for many of the sales!
Well, I'll put my hand up as someone who bought it in all formats the day it came out. Strangely, and much to my surprise, just about all of the interpretations of the song are good, and a couple are excellent. I burnt them all onto one CD a few years back, and it's definitely a good listen.
Oddly I'm doing some "reorganising" at the moment, and two copies of the cassette are in front of me while I try to find a smart place to store them safely.
--
Captain Corella
60 Years a Fan
Re: Rarest Officially Released Stones Track?
Posted by:
shadooby
()
Date: February 2, 2015 01:03
Maybe...
Re: Rarest Officially Released Stones Track?
Posted by:
Deltics
()
Date: February 2, 2015 01:11
Quote
shadooby
Maybe...
Nope, it got a wider release on this.
"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"
Re: Rarest Officially Released Stones Track?
Posted by:
DGA35
()
Date: February 2, 2015 01:26
Rare in terms of spelling mistake could be the first couple hundred copies of the single I Wanna Be Your Man/ Stoned - misspelled Stones.
Re: Rarest Officially Released Stones Track?
Posted by:
kowalski
()
Date: February 2, 2015 07:26
Some rare "tracks" officially released but never compiled or reissued :
- Under My Thumb (live from New Castle, October 1965) - released on the first CD edition of Got Live If You Want It!
- full length version of The Under Assistant West Coast Promo Man (released on the first edition of Singles Collection in 1989)
- Sway - alternate version (released on a 7" single, the version on the Singles box set is actually an edited version of the album version...)
- Dance - instrumental version (released on a promo 12" single)
- Before They Make Me Run - Bob Clearmountain mix
- extended versions of Miss You and Beast of Burden (8-track)
- Too Much Blood - dance version
- Winning Ugly remixes
- Rock and a Hard Place - Rock Mix
- Almost hear You Sigh - promo remix
- Highwire - full length version (with count in) - released only on a 4-track single
- Gimme Shelter (live version) from a 1993 single
- Tumbling Dice (live) and Street Fighting Man (live) - released as b-sides to JJF 1991 single
- Out of control (Don Was live remix)
- Under The Radar & Don't Wanna Go Home (released on a bonus DVD only)
- Biggest Mistake - instrumental version
- Plundered My Soul - radio mix (can be found as download though)
- Under My Thumb (live from New Castle, October 1965) - released on the first CD edition of Got Live If You Want It!
- full length version of The Under Assistant West Coast Promo Man (released on the first edition of Singles Collection in 1989)
- Sway - alternate version (released on a 7" single, the version on the Singles box set is actually an edited version of the album version...)
- Dance - instrumental version (released on a promo 12" single)
- Before They Make Me Run - Bob Clearmountain mix
- extended versions of Miss You and Beast of Burden (8-track)
- Too Much Blood - dance version
- Winning Ugly remixes
- Rock and a Hard Place - Rock Mix
- Almost hear You Sigh - promo remix
- Highwire - full length version (with count in) - released only on a 4-track single
- Gimme Shelter (live version) from a 1993 single
- Tumbling Dice (live) and Street Fighting Man (live) - released as b-sides to JJF 1991 single
- Out of control (Don Was live remix)
- Under The Radar & Don't Wanna Go Home (released on a bonus DVD only)
- Biggest Mistake - instrumental version
- Plundered My Soul - radio mix (can be found as download though)
Re: Rarest Officially Released Stones Track?
Posted by:
Doc
()
Date: February 2, 2015 07:36
Kowalski,
This would make an awesome compilation
Can you share this ?
I don't have a couple of those
Thanks :-)
This would make an awesome compilation
Can you share this ?
I don't have a couple of those
Thanks :-)
Re: Rarest Officially Released Stones Track?
Posted by:
Come On
()
Date: February 2, 2015 09:23
It's still the @#$%& record that's rare in this case...I haven't got the single 7' 'It's only rock'n'roll' with the very rare 'Through the lonely nights' on flip-side...
2 1 2 0
2 1 2 0
Re: Rarest Officially Released Stones Track?
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: February 2, 2015 09:43
Co ck Su ck erblues on The Rest Of The Best, Stones Story part 2.
Re: Rarest Officially Released Stones Track?
Posted by:
bluesinc.
()
Date: February 2, 2015 10:20
Alternate of Love in vain on tue promolp form 1970
Re: Rarest Officially Released Stones Track?
Posted by:
mitch
()
Date: February 2, 2015 11:46
Quote
DandelionPowderman
Co ck Su ck erblues on The Rest Of The Best, Stones Story part 2.
Not really official since they didn't use the master for the release...
Re: Rarest Officially Released Stones Track?
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: February 2, 2015 12:00
Quote
mitchQuote
DandelionPowderman
Co ck Su ck erblues on The Rest Of The Best, Stones Story part 2.
Not really official since they didn't use the master for the release...
It was officially released anyhow. They didn't have the best/complete master for I Think I'm Going Mad either (the intro). It was released, and it is rare.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2015-02-02 12:00 by DandelionPowderman.
Re: Rarest Officially Released Stones Track?
Posted by:
mitch
()
Date: February 2, 2015 12:16
Quote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
mitchQuote
DandelionPowderman
Co ck Su ck erblues on The Rest Of The Best, Stones Story part 2.
Not really official since they didn't use the master for the release...
It was officially released anyhow. They didn't have the best/complete master for I Think I'm Going Mad either (the intro). It was released, and it is rare.
We all know the story here.
But it wasn't issued from a master at all, but copied from a boot...
So, if it is official on the paper, it is not really on material source terms (imho).
They even didn't give a matrix number to the SP.
Re: Rarest Officially Released Stones Track?
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: February 2, 2015 12:26
It was an anonymous immersion to an official release (with a matrix number). Then it has to be regarded as officially release, albeit for a limited period of time, imo.
Ronnie Wood has released two live albums with bootlegs as the source: Kilburn and the The New Barbarians Largo-show. Aren't those shows released officially?
Ronnie Wood has released two live albums with bootlegs as the source: Kilburn and the The New Barbarians Largo-show. Aren't those shows released officially?
Re: Rarest Officially Released Stones Track?
Posted by:
mitch
()
Date: February 2, 2015 12:42
You play on words, you understand very well what I am talking about.
Since this kind of official stuff clones the unofficial one and brings nothing new (in terms of material or sound quality) this has no other purpose than cluttering the shelves (unless being an insatiable consumerist).
Since this kind of official stuff clones the unofficial one and brings nothing new (in terms of material or sound quality) this has no other purpose than cluttering the shelves (unless being an insatiable consumerist).
Re: Rarest Officially Released Stones Track?
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: February 2, 2015 12:53
I thought it was a legitimate question, but let's agree to disagree 
Re: Rarest Officially Released Stones Track?
Posted by:
frankotero
()
Date: February 2, 2015 13:00
I would call it an official release from an un-official source. Therefore you are both right. The mystery is does the original recording exist and will it be released.
Re: Rarest Officially Released Stones Track?
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: February 2, 2015 13:26
Quote
frankotero
I would call it an official release from an un-official source. Therefore you are both right. The mystery is does the original recording exist and will it be released.
That is the question indeed.
Re: Rarest Officially Released Stones Track?
Posted by:
Come On
()
Date: February 2, 2015 14:23
It would be rather ironic if someone would mention a track from the Stones ' Rarities 1971-2003 ', because when such an album is released, it is hardly rare anymore
It must be from some 12' single with a 'dance mix 11' or something...
2 1 2 0
It must be from some 12' single with a 'dance mix 11' or something...
2 1 2 0
Re: Rarest Officially Released Stones Track?
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: February 2, 2015 14:38
Quote
Come On
It would be rather ironic if someone would mention a track from the Stones ' Rarities 1971-2003 ', because when such an album is released, it is hardly rare anymore
It must be from some 12' single with a 'dance mix 11' or something...
The problem is that we are so stupid that we buy those releases. So what could have remained obscurity becomes.... (fill inn)
Re: Rarest Officially Released Stones Track?
Posted by:
mitch
()
Date: February 2, 2015 15:15
Some sampler CDs sent to the radios offer some rare tracks, like the Biggest Bang sampler CD.
There are some "download only" avalailable tracks like "It's All Over Now" live from the Paradiso.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-02-02 15:35 by mitch.
There are some "download only" avalailable tracks like "It's All Over Now" live from the Paradiso.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-02-02 15:35 by mitch.
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