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RollingFreakThey've played more songs than the Stones have since 1998.Quote
keefriffhard4life
band only played 5 shows total this year and i think they played more songs than the stones have played this entire tour
Surprisingly, its worse IMO to watch these shows than it is to listen. When you listen, it kind of still sounds exactly like the Grateful Dead. There's a lack of excitement watching it as opposed to sitting there and imagining the experience.
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band only played 5 shows total this year and i think they played more songs than the stones have played this entire tour
Surprisingly, its worse IMO to watch these shows than it is to listen. When you listen, it kind of still sounds exactly like the Grateful Dead. There's a lack of excitement watching it as opposed to sitting there and imagining the experience.
a bit of an overstatement. the stones have probably played over 150 differet songs in the last 15 years or so
anyways are you buying any of the fare thee well live releases due out in november?
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RollingFreakThey've played more songs than the Stones have since 1998.Quote
keefriffhard4life
band only played 5 shows total this year and i think they played more songs than the stones have played this entire tour
Surprisingly, its worse IMO to watch these shows than it is to listen. When you listen, it kind of still sounds exactly like the Grateful Dead. There's a lack of excitement watching it as opposed to sitting there and imagining the experience.
a bit of an overstatement. the stones have probably played over 150 differet songs in the last 15 years or so
anyways are you buying any of the fare thee well live releases due out in november?
Yeah, I didn't mean it literally, but nearly 100 songs in 5 shows is damn impressive. And it in all honesty probably isn't THAT much less than the Stones, but then again its 2 entirely different bands.
I may be some of the releases. I'd prefer a great compilation set of all the best songs. I don't really need all the full shows, but I also don't know what they're planning to release.
True for the Stones as well..I love the persicope but not even remotely close to the buzz of the show..but beggars cannot be choosy...I have seen over 100 live Stones shows since 75 and video recordings, you tube clips, etc never do them justice.Quote
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keefriffhard4life
band only played 5 shows total this year and i think they played more songs than the stones have played this entire tour
Surprisingly, its worse IMO to watch these shows than it is to listen. When you listen, it kind of still sounds exactly like the Grateful Dead. There's a lack of excitement watching it as opposed to sitting there and imagining the experience.
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band only played 5 shows total this year and i think they played more songs than the stones have played this entire tour
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band only played 5 shows total this year and i think they played more songs than the stones have played this entire tour
In five shows, they played only two songs twice.
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band only played 5 shows total this year and i think they played more songs than the stones have played this entire tour
In five shows, they played only two songs twice.
yes truckin and another tune. outstanding job and they still missed several tunes everyone thought would get played like "black muddy river", "goin down the road feelin bad" and "ramble on rose"
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I've seen the Grateful Dead 67 times. That's more times than I've seen the Stones (but to be fair I've never seen the Stones on multiple nights at the same venue plus GD tickets were a heck of a lot cheaper). Since Jerry died I've seen a couple of early Furthur fests, one Phil Lesh solo show and some kind of "The Other Ones" reunion at Alpine valley in 2002 . I'm done with it. I have absolutely no interest in seeing fake Jerry play with the remaining members of the GD. If other people want to go see them that's great. I think I would feel the same way if Keith, Mick or Charlie passed away and the remaining members continued to tour as the Rolling Stones (which I don't think will ever happen).
Nope, they will be good to their word. As long as Phil runs the show there's only so much these guys can stand. Of course the Stones are the greatest Rock n Roll band but The Dead were the best and most unique concert experience in our day. Who would give over a one hundred songs in 5 nights? That's dedication to the audience and rehearsal. Trey was outstanding, his effort should be applauded, puts all 3 of the ill prepared Stones guitarists in perspective. True respect for the audience was what I saw from The Grateful Dead this week.Quote
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I've seen the Grateful Dead 67 times. That's more times than I've seen the Stones (but to be fair I've never seen the Stones on multiple nights at the same venue plus GD tickets were a heck of a lot cheaper). Since Jerry died I've seen a couple of early Furthur fests, one Phil Lesh solo show and some kind of "The Other Ones" reunion at Alpine valley in 2002 . I'm done with it. I have absolutely no interest in seeing fake Jerry play with the remaining members of the GD. If other people want to go see them that's great. I think I would feel the same way if Keith, Mick or Charlie passed away and the remaining members continued to tour as the Rolling Stones (which I don't think will ever happen).
Wow. If you've seen them 67 times it's entirely possibly you would be able to re-unite with some of the people you've met along the way. I think there are many fans who share your feeling about no Jerry, no GD, but still found the reunion shows highly fun and entertaining for reasons not entirely related to the music and more about the the GD community enjoying the spirit of the long strange trip.
After this huge success, I'm guessing this may not be the last we see of them actually. They probably had so much fun they are all talking about how and when they can do it some more.
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DoomandGloomNope, they will be good to their word. As long as Phil runs the show there's only so much these guys can stand. Of course the Stones are the greatest Rock n Roll band but The Dead were the best and most unique concert experience in our day. Who would give over a one hundred songs in 5 nights? That's dedication to the audience and rehearsal. Trey was outstanding, his effort should be applauded, puts all 3 of the ill prepared Stones guitarists in perspective. True respect for the audience was what I saw from The Grateful Dead this week.Quote
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its good to be anywhere
I've seen the Grateful Dead 67 times. That's more times than I've seen the Stones (but to be fair I've never seen the Stones on multiple nights at the same venue plus GD tickets were a heck of a lot cheaper). Since Jerry died I've seen a couple of early Furthur fests, one Phil Lesh solo show and some kind of "The Other Ones" reunion at Alpine valley in 2002 . I'm done with it. I have absolutely no interest in seeing fake Jerry play with the remaining members of the GD. If other people want to go see them that's great. I think I would feel the same way if Keith, Mick or Charlie passed away and the remaining members continued to tour as the Rolling Stones (which I don't think will ever happen).
Wow. If you've seen them 67 times it's entirely possibly you would be able to re-unite with some of the people you've met along the way. I think there are many fans who share your feeling about no Jerry, no GD, but still found the reunion shows highly fun and entertaining for reasons not entirely related to the music and more about the the GD community enjoying the spirit of the long strange trip.
After this huge success, I'm guessing this may not be the last we see of them actually. They probably had so much fun they are all talking about how and when they can do it some more.
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DoomandGloomNope, they will be good to their word. As long as Phil runs the show there's only so much these guys can stand. Of course the Stones are the greatest Rock n Roll band but The Dead were the best and most unique concert experience in our day. Who would give over a one hundred songs in 5 nights? That's dedication to the audience and rehearsal. Trey was outstanding, his effort should be applauded, puts all 3 of the ill prepared Stones guitarists in perspective. True respect for the audience was what I saw from The Grateful Dead this week.Quote
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its good to be anywhere
I've seen the Grateful Dead 67 times. That's more times than I've seen the Stones (but to be fair I've never seen the Stones on multiple nights at the same venue plus GD tickets were a heck of a lot cheaper). Since Jerry died I've seen a couple of early Furthur fests, one Phil Lesh solo show and some kind of "The Other Ones" reunion at Alpine valley in 2002 . I'm done with it. I have absolutely no interest in seeing fake Jerry play with the remaining members of the GD. If other people want to go see them that's great. I think I would feel the same way if Keith, Mick or Charlie passed away and the remaining members continued to tour as the Rolling Stones (which I don't think will ever happen).
Wow. If you've seen them 67 times it's entirely possibly you would be able to re-unite with some of the people you've met along the way. I think there are many fans who share your feeling about no Jerry, no GD, but still found the reunion shows highly fun and entertaining for reasons not entirely related to the music and more about the the GD community enjoying the spirit of the long strange trip.
After this huge success, I'm guessing this may not be the last we see of them actually. They probably had so much fun they are all talking about how and when they can do it some more.
Well said and you are probably right. I wasn't aware of Phil running the show. Where is that info coming from?
Phil didn't accompany the guys on their true vacations that started after their In The Dark Success and I often wondered why. Bill Wyman syndrome perhaps?
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I don't disagree, Trey put in a superhuman effort and allowed the others to mimic what they once did for Jerry. Garcia was a bandleader and an explorer of world music inside his skills. Much like The Beatles. Trey mastered only one side of Jerry, the 80's one I suppose. Haynes? He's too proud to do the job properly. The Allman world is a tough one, so was The Dead's. No band had more frightening roadies as The Dead. Giant, acid fueled surfer boys who's point you down dark staircases for laughs.
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I don't disagree, Trey put in a superhuman effort and allowed the others to mimic what they once did for Jerry. Garcia was a bandleader and an explorer of world music inside his skills. Much like The Beatles. Trey mastered only one side of Jerry, the 80's one I suppose. Haynes? He's too proud to do the job properly. The Allman world is a tough one, so was The Dead's. No band had more frightening roadies as The Dead. Giant, acid fueled surfer boys who's point you down dark staircases for laughs.
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band only played 5 shows total this year and i think they played more songs than the stones have played this entire tour
In five shows, they played only two songs twice.
yes truckin and another tune. outstanding job and they still missed several tunes everyone thought would get played like "black muddy river", "goin down the road feelin bad" and "ramble on rose"
or "Promised Land".."Big River" etc. Dead mainstays
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I don't disagree, Trey put in a superhuman effort and allowed the others to mimic what they once did for Jerry. Garcia was a bandleader and an explorer of world music inside his skills. Much like The Beatles. Trey mastered only one side of Jerry, the 80's one I suppose. Haynes? He's too proud to do the job properly. The Allman world is a tough one, so was The Dead's. No band had more frightening roadies as The Dead. Giant, acid fueled surfer boys who's point you down dark staircases for laughs.
That is funny. Although I think the acid fueled days were long ago. I remember asking Jerry in the late 80's if he tripped anymore and he said very rarely and never while playing a show. I saw plenty of drugs consumed in my few times hanging around that band but never any psychedelics. But you got the feeling being around them that the psychedelics were somehow still in there systems after all those years.
I haven't heard any of the shows but have huge respect for Trey for learning so much of their material and doing his best to fill some awfully big shoes.
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having seen the grateful dead almost 200x and the stones close to 100X, there is no comparison to the current bands....
The dead that just played in Chicago is a shell of what the grateful dead was when jerry was alive and well, and its now lacking both heart and soul. Jerry was the driver, the focus, the heart, the soul, the meaning and the hub of the grateful dead. Whats left is a bunch of feuding and directionless musicians coming together to try and recreate and recapture something that died a long time ago. Trey was great, but its not the grateful dead. It's pure nostalgia. you can talk about the songs played, etc, but it doesn't matter because its NOT the grateful dead.
The stones, on the other hand, ARE the Rolling Stones, and these shows are some of the best Stones shows Ive ever seen. I don't understand how they can be, but they are. I went to SD, Pitt and Raleigh, all amazing in their own way and enough differences in songs and performances of warhorses to make each one incredible and unique in its own way. They are playing like a young band with something to prove. It's loud, its fun and its raw. and they are having fun.
Im already trying to figure out how to get myself to Buffalo....
Very fine summation. I watched some of The Dead, enjoyed it wile I was watching it but it was just what you say.Quote
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Chiming in....
having seen the grateful dead almost 200x and the stones close to 100X, there is no comparison to the current bands....
The dead that just played in Chicago is a shell of what the grateful dead was when jerry was alive and well, and its now lacking both heart and soul. Jerry was the driver, the focus, the heart, the soul, the meaning and the hub of the grateful dead. Whats left is a bunch of feuding and directionless musicians coming together to try and recreate and recapture something that died a long time ago. Trey was great, but its not the grateful dead. It's pure nostalgia. you can talk about the songs played, etc, but it doesn't matter because its NOT the grateful dead.
The stones, on the other hand, ARE the Rolling Stones, and these shows are some of the best Stones shows Ive ever seen. I don't understand how they can be, but they are. I went to SD, Pitt and Raleigh, all amazing in their own way and enough differences in songs and performances of warhorses to make each one incredible and unique in its own way. They are playing like a young band with something to prove. It's loud, its fun and its raw. and they are having fun.
Im already trying to figure out how to get myself to Buffalo....