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keefriff99I'm sure the Edge has influenced loads of young guitarists.Quote
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keefriff99
about the Edge. I cannot BELIEVE people are bashing the guy on here...he is incredibly innovative and brilliant.
He's a one-trick pony. He stays away from power chording, he plays on the top strings, he tends to avoid the root note... since 1981!
He's a good song-writer but yeah a one-trick pony.
And who has he influenced? Keith ahs influenced tons of guitarists but The Edge?
And are you seriously suggesting Keith ISN'T a one-trick pony who took Chuck Berry and Ry Cooder for everything they were worth (his words)?
Please.
Wouldn't that make Keith at least a two trick pony?
Peace,
Mr DJA
lol. Keith's incredible songwriting, his stuff on songs like Beast of Burden, his Gram influenced country stuff and decent piano playing, and his early blues influenced playing make him at least a six trick pony. That's more versatile than most rock guitarists and good enough for me.
peace
Enough with the @#$%&' ponies, lol. The bottom line is that the Edge is an incredibly innovative guitarist and has used many textures and techniques.Quote
OzHeavyThrobber
hahaha the above threads are very funny.
Keith is at least a nine trick pony as he is one of the greatest songwriters of all time, he plays the greatest electric rhythm ever, greatest acoustic rhythm ever (well at least he used to),he gets an extra trick for the lead to "Sympathy", an extra point for writing "Ruby Tuesday" solo, he plays piano he's had two voices that sing - pre 1975 and post (and incl) 1975 and because of a healthy her ion addiction "Exile" was made.
Edge is more than a one trick pony but not sure what number to deal him - maybe a five?
Clayton is just a pony. Not even a "no trick pony". Just a pony...
I am an idiot. With no tricks. I do have a cat though.
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keefriff99
I'll take Keith over the Edge any day and twice on Sundays, but that doesn't mean I can't recognize the man's legit greatness.
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OzHeavyThrobber
Only bug about here appears to be the one in your bottom.
Clayton is as replaceable a band member as there ever has been. I don't care if you agree or not. Again when you bring up ACDC - the bassy (Williams?) doesn't cop song writing royalties.
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OzHeavyThrobber
"Perhaps in U2's eyes the bass player coming up with his lines IS part of writing the song" - that's a novel thought. Putting a bass line to a song has nothing to do with its composition - unless the song sprang from the bass line itself. I know of no song ever mentioned that was attributed to him being the catalyst for it. And if there was he's been more than compensated for it living off the song writing talents of Edge and Bono.
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OzHeavyThrobber
And all he does for the majority of the music Edge or Bono to a lesser extent writes is bring a whole bunch of mediocrity to it. There's 'serving the song' and then just not bringing any life to it - the latter of which he suffers from too regularly in my opinion. He lives on root notes barely stepping out of them and arguing to the contrary is pointless. I mean listen to when Bono throws to him in "Gloria" on Under a Blood Red Sky. About as musically interesting to listen to as a car crash. And anyone learning the guitar or bass could have played it after a few minutes. Seems he's proof of it.
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OzHeavyThrobber
Get in a twist about it if you wish as it means nothing to me, but Adam was born under the luckiest of rock 'stars'...
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When Clayton first joined the fledgling U2, he did not have formal training in the bass.[7] In the band's early years, he generally played simple parts in 4/4 time.[16] Bono said of Clayton's early bass playing, "Adam used to pretend he could play bass. He came round and started using words like 'action' and 'fret' and he had us baffled. He had the only amplifier, so we never argued with him. We thought this guy must be a musician; he knows what he's talking about. And then one day, we discovered he wasn't playing the right notes. That's what's wrong, y'know?"
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keefriff99
And are you seriously suggesting Keith ISN'T a one-trick pony who took Chuck Berry and Ry Cooder for everything they were worth (his words)?
Please.
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keefriff99
And are you seriously suggesting Keith ISN'T a one-trick pony who took Chuck Berry and Ry Cooder for everything they were worth (his words)?
Please.
Face it : U2 is a BIG band simply because they had a clever manager (McGuiness) and a sinegr with an oversized ego. Without these two, U2 would be a small band with a following covering Ireland.
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And are you seriously suggesting Keith ISN'T a one-trick pony who took Chuck Berry and Ry Cooder for everything they were worth (his words)?
Please.
"one-trick pony"?
The 1963 Berry-infused Keith isn't the 1966 "pop" Keith who himself isn't the 1969 open-G/E "doctor doom" Keef, who isn't the 1978 "back to standard" Keith etc etc.
So I find insulting to compare a guy who never stopped re-inventing hismelf to The Edge.
And regarding the U2 guitarist take his pedalboard from him and he's nothing.
Face it : U2 is a BIG band simply because they had a clever manager (McGuiness) and a sinegr with an oversized ego. Without these two, U2 would be a small band with a following covering Ireland.
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OzHeavyThrobber
You're an angry lad GasLightStreet and given you seem to take this so personally I tired of reading your responses a few lines in.
Someone has an opinion that differs from yours. Learn to live with it and not see it as a personal affront and then go on the attack. I have no doubt you've been accused of being needlessly argumentative in your life before now.
I know you will be compelled to respond to this as it appears your nature but to save you a little time I'll tell you now that I'll not bother reading it as I'm not here to argue over nothing with type on a screen. I'm here to have fun and express my opinions and read opinions of others without being jumped on or jumping on anyone.
You should try it. You might be able to do away with your blood pressure meds.
Now enjoy monotonously quoting, highlighting text and grouching away.
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keefriff99
All I'm saying is that some of you are ridiculously short-sighted and myopic when it comes to other bands here. It's as if you all feel that praising a non-Stones musician means you're taking something away from the Stones. It's nonsense.
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It's unbelievable the lengths some of you will go to justify your hatred for a band.
Comparing U2 to @#$%& Nickelback is just pure trolling, and I ain't taking the bait.Quote
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It's unbelievable the lengths some of you will go to justify your hatred for a band.
No hatred just being realistic. U2 is a mediocre band that was propelled into the stratosphere of superstardom by McGuiness's promo skills and Bono's inflated ego.
They deserve the same harsh treatment as Nickelback because they're the Euro version of Nickelback : an annoying band with enormous undeserved success. But at least Chad Kroeger knows how to shut the f@ck up unlike Bonehead.
If crap music like "Elevation" gets your titties hard in the morning more power to you. Me I find this unsufferable.
Around 1987 "Mullen recalled that "We were the biggest, but we weren't the best". [en.wikipedia.org]
That's still true Larry...
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Comparing U2 to @#$%& Nickelback is just pure trolling, and I ain't taking the bait.
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And regarding the U2 guitarist take his pedalboard from him and he's nothing.
Face it : U2 is a BIG band simply because they had a clever manager (McGuiness) and a sinegr with an oversized ego. Without these two, U2 would be a small band with a following covering Ireland.
And your point is? Abba would sell five times these numbers if they toured with remaining members.Quote
GasLightStreet
U2's tour expanded due to demand.
As expected, U2 blew out initial on-sales for the upcoming Innocence + Experience tour, selling out in every city that went on sale yesterday. A total of 44 shows went up yesterday, with approximately 660,000 tickets sold.
Among the box office triumphs were a record-setting 118,000 fans queuing online to purchase tickets for Madison Square Garden in New York, resulting in two additional shows going up; and two new shows each for Boston, Chicago, Montreal, Amsterdam, Stockholm, Berlin and Paris.
[www.billboard.com]
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drbryant
The U2 shows have been selling decently, but there doesn't seem to be that much interest. The NY shows sold reasonably well, but tickets for the initial 4 shows are still available in the 200 section at $300 per ticket. Although not as expensive as the Stones, that's a lot of cash. For the two additional shows that went on sale the other day (the shows on July 26 and 27), a number of sections in the 200 level were reduced in price from $300 to $100. I bought 2 in section 225, row 5 for $100 apiece. Those same tickets were priced at $300 for the shows that went on sale earlier. The additional Chicago shows aren't selling at all. I would estimate less than 50% of tickets in the stands have been sold. Scalpers should take a bath on these shows.
With the new mapping feature on ticketmaster, you can actually see what seats are left. I'm afraid U2 has seen its popularity take a bit of a dive.