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Re: The Rolling Stones live in 2015
Posted by: Kurt ()
Date: January 14, 2015 17:38

So...
the potential for a Rock in Rio Vegas show HAD to be more than just the promoter spreading rumors.
It was mentioned many times in this thread, including posts by BV, as a strong possibility.

What happened?

Re: The Rolling Stones live in 2015
Posted by: Karlos123 ()
Date: January 14, 2015 17:52

Hi bv,

I'm reading the answer between the lines, but I like to ask again for clarification:

Right now there are no rumors for another London show? Talking about bringing it to a full circle would imply that 2015 is ruled out for London but 2016 is in the cards?

Re: The Rolling Stones live in 2015
Posted by: Nate ()
Date: January 14, 2015 18:19

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bv
Sorry to be a "party killer", but let's face the facts... The Rolling Stones don't normally announce shows or tours until 4-6 weeks before they will happen.

The shows of the USA & Canada tour in 2013 were announced on April 3, 2013. The rehearsals started less than two weeks later, and the tour started exactly 30 days later on May 3, with the Echoplex show one week before that. Same with the 2012 shows. They were announced Oct 15, 2012, and peformed just a few weeks later Nov/Dec 2012. Same with most other shows the Stones are doing these days. European tour dates god confirmed in March and on, two months ahead of the tour, a bit early, because there were festivals involved, with the need for an early announcement.

Im sure Jagger has friends in high places but to have the European tour dates confirmed by God,that really is something.

Nate spinning smiley sticking its tongue out

Re: The Rolling Stones live in 2015
Posted by: mailexile67 ()
Date: January 14, 2015 19:28

NA Tour will finish early-mid June and a couple of gigs in London at the end of June like 2 years ago...

Re: The Rolling Stones live in 2015
Posted by: DeanGoodman ()
Date: January 14, 2015 19:29

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fleabitmonkey
I really suck at gambling. Plane ticket purchased, room reserved, rock weekend ticket bought, car rented....NO STONES! I thought I'd get in early while the rates for plane, room,and car were reasonable. Now I wish that money was used for Jazz Fest. For my taste the Jazz Fest line up blows away "Crock In Rio". VP of RIR Roberta Medina refers to festival as the "world cup of festivals".....she can't be serious.

Maybe Mick will dedicate "Tumbling Dice" to you at the next show. Hopefully you are not flying in from the other side of the world?

Re: The Rolling Stones live in 2015
Posted by: drbryant ()
Date: January 14, 2015 21:17

Unless there is something with the casinos, guaranteeing ticket purchases, I think the "rock weekend" could create difficulties for the promoters. The headliners, particularly No Doubt, are pretty weak for a festival of this magnitude (I think they are actually second line at the NO Jazz Fest). The Pop weekend is quite strong, but I suspect that ticket sales for the Rock weekend will be far from robust. We'll see.

Re: The Rolling Stones live in 2015
Posted by: Kurt ()
Date: January 14, 2015 21:33

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drbryant
Unless there is something with the casinos, guaranteeing ticket purchases, I think the "rock weekend" could create difficulties for the promoters. The headliners, particularly No Doubt, are pretty weak for a festival of this magnitude (I think they are actually second line at the NO Jazz Fest). The Pop weekend is quite strong, but I suspect that ticket sales for the Rock weekend will be far from robust. We'll see.

Being the first day of a new festival, maybe the promoters intentionally want light crowds on Day One. To ease into things...

Nothing against Gavin Rossdale's wife's band, but that lineup is wickedly weak.

Re: The Rolling Stones live in 2015
Posted by: bv ()
Date: January 14, 2015 22:56

I have pre-paid a hotel room at the Hotel Pennsylvania across the street from MSG for the next five years. Sooner or later the Stones MIGHT show up for a new years day show, I would not miss it, and that hotel is just "lovely" you know. Just check out Tripadvisor and you will understand. For those who are about to do the same, please think twice though... In fact, don't ever pre-pay anything when it comes to the Stones - at least not flights and hotels.

Bjornulf

Re: The Rolling Stones live in 2015
Posted by: alhavu1 ()
Date: January 14, 2015 23:05

Hotel Penn = scary place!

Re: The Rolling Stones live in 2015
Posted by: MisterDDDD ()
Date: January 14, 2015 23:49

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bv
I have pre-paid a hotel room at the Hotel Pennsylvania across the street from MSG for the next five years. Sooner or later the Stones MIGHT show up for a new years day show, I would not miss it, and that hotel is just "lovely" you know. Just check out Tripadvisor and you will understand. For those who are about to do the same, please think twice though... In fact, don't ever pre-pay anything when it comes to the Stones - at least not flights and hotels.

I pre-paid for a flight, bought the insurance for $30 and booked a (cancelable) hotel. If the Stones would have been announced yesterday,I would have been all set. As it stands, I am debating a weekend getaway to Vegas on that week-end sans festival or losing thirty dollars. Not always the worst idea to pre-pay and make plans IMHO.

When this thread started.. the originator seemed to be a lot more confident of the prospect of the Stones appearance at the festival than he does now, hence a few of us making the "gamble", and un-beknownst to some of us has felt less optimistic for a while apparently.

Re: The Rolling Stones live in 2015
Posted by: atip ()
Date: January 15, 2015 00:26

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bv
I have pre-paid a hotel room at the Hotel Pennsylvania across the street from MSG for the next five years. Sooner or later the Stones MIGHT show up for a new years day show, I would not miss it, and that hotel is just "lovely" you know. Just check out Tripadvisor and you will understand. For those who are about to do the same, please think twice though... In fact, don't ever pre-pay anything when it comes to the Stones - at least not flights and hotels.

LOL. The reviews for that place are hilarious. spinning smiley sticking its tongue out One was something like, if you get a choice to stay here or sleep in the gutter, choose the gutter, it's much nicer. A buddy of mine stayed there when The Who did three shows at MSG. I stayed with him for one night and the place was like a flop house from a 1970's detective show.

Re: The Rolling Stones live in 2015
Posted by: DeanGoodman ()
Date: January 15, 2015 00:42

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MisterDDDD
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bv
I have pre-paid a hotel room at the Hotel Pennsylvania across the street from MSG for the next five years. Sooner or later the Stones MIGHT show up for a new years day show, I would not miss it, and that hotel is just "lovely" you know. Just check out Tripadvisor and you will understand. For those who are about to do the same, please think twice though... In fact, don't ever pre-pay anything when it comes to the Stones - at least not flights and hotels.

I pre-paid for a flight, bought the insurance for $30 and booked a (cancelable) hotel. If the Stones would have been announced yesterday,I would have been all set. As it stands, I am debating a weekend getaway to Vegas on that week-end sans festival or losing thirty dollars. Not always the worst idea to pre-pay and make plans IMHO.

When this thread started.. the originator seemed to be a lot more confident of the prospect of the Stones appearance at the festival than he does now, hence a few of us making the "gamble", and un-beknownst to some of us has felt less optimistic for a while apparently.

The caveat at the bottom of every Stones tour page on IORR:

Don't pay for expensive travel until concerts are confirmed, and please note that even confirmed concerts may change. This list is supplied by the IORR fan club to fans, for your convenient planning in Stonesland...

Mind you, I once booked a flight to Chicago in 1997 because I was convinced the Stones would play a club show for the ¨Blind Date¨ promotion being run by Miller Beer. It turned out to be David Bowie, so I wasn't too upset.

Re: The Rolling Stones live in 2015
Posted by: chriseganstar ()
Date: January 15, 2015 00:51

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atip
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bv
I have pre-paid a hotel room at the Hotel Pennsylvania across the street from MSG for the next five years. Sooner or later the Stones MIGHT show up for a new years day show, I would not miss it, and that hotel is just "lovely" you know. Just check out Tripadvisor and you will understand. For those who are about to do the same, please think twice though... In fact, don't ever pre-pay anything when it comes to the Stones - at least not flights and hotels.

LOL. The reviews for that place are hilarious. spinning smiley sticking its tongue out One was something like, if you get a choice to stay here or sleep in the gutter, choose the gutter, it's much nicer. A buddy of mine stayed there when The Who did three shows at MSG. I stayed with him for one night and the place was like a flop house from a 1970's detective show.

We stayed there when we went to see the Stones at MSG and then Giants stadium a few years ago !!!!.....massive room with fantastic NY views and....bloody cheap for the location. You get what you pay for, but at the end of the day how much time do you actually spend in your Hotel room apart from sleeping !

Satisfied since 1976

Re: The Rolling Stones live in 2015
Posted by: swimtothemoon ()
Date: January 15, 2015 00:58

I did the same for the Blind Date in Chicago. It turned out to be Bowie and the
Beer was free. I feel lucky to have been there especially now that he is not
Touring, which I assume is do to his heart problems.

Re: The Rolling Stones live in 2015
Posted by: Nate ()
Date: January 15, 2015 02:10

I've just recently arranged my wedding,church booked,reception party organised and honeymoon all paid for,hopefully I can find a wife by July.

Nate >grinning smiley<

Re: The Rolling Stones live in 2015
Posted by: dougingb ()
Date: January 15, 2015 02:44

I stayed at the Hotel Pennsylvania for a couple of nights a few years ago. Worse hotel I have ever stayed at, by the way. There was blood on the wall of my room... eye popping smiley

Re: The Rolling Stones live in 2015
Posted by: bitusa2012 ()
Date: January 15, 2015 07:36

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bv
I have pre-paid a hotel room at the Hotel Pennsylvania across the street from MSG for the next five years. Sooner or later the Stones MIGHT show up for a new years day show, I would not miss it, and that hotel is just "lovely" you know. Just check out Tripadvisor and you will understand. For those who are about to do the same, please think twice though... In fact, don't ever pre-pay anything when it comes to the Stones - at least not flights and hotels.

For WHICH night????

Re: The Rolling Stones live in 2015
Posted by: RoughJusticeOnYa ()
Date: January 15, 2015 11:21

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bv
I have pre-paid a hotel room at the Hotel Pennsylvania across the street from MSG for the next five years. Sooner or later the Stones MIGHT show up for a new years day show, I would not miss it, and that hotel is just "lovely" you know. Just check out Tripadvisor and you will understand. For those who are about to do the same, please think twice though... In fact, don't ever pre-pay anything when it comes to the Stones - at least not flights and hotels.

>grinning smiley<

Re: The Rolling Stones live in 2015
Posted by: RoughJusticeOnYa ()
Date: January 15, 2015 11:29

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bv
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RoughJusticeOnYa
Just my two cents, and nothing to do with the question wether the Stones will participate or not in this year's line-up:

I think it sounds rather silly to name an event "Rock in Rio" when it takes place in Lisbon, or Vegas, or anywhere but Rio for that matter.

There; I said it.

When I say NA then I mean North America. Las Vegas is in North America. In fact they might even play in Rock In Rio in Rio de Janeiro later this year, the ORIGINAL "Rock In Rio", but that is a completely different case. All I know is they are working on dates in NORTH and SOUTH America. That is why I personally call it a tour of the Americas.

ROCK IN RIO is a great brand with a mission. If you read the ROCK IN RIO web site then you will see that it is a lot more than just a festival:

Rio de Janeiro 2001:
Rock in Rio "For a Better World" was born. 3,200 young people in Rio de Janeiro graduated in elementary education with the financial support of Rock in Rio 28 educational projects from UNESCO were financed

Lisbon 2004:
Built a primary School in Tanzania, where 400 children attend this school per year Built a health care center in Gapara – Itaqui Bacanga – São Luís – Maranhão – Brazil, which services about 50,000 patients each year.

... and so on ...

I would love to see them in Rio - at "Rock in Rio" - home ground Rio, but may be it happens to early, as they have been looking at Oct/Nov rather than Sept.

...My bad, bv.
I'm affraid you (partly) reacted to a typo of mine.
Where there was "I think it sounds rather silly to na an event (...)", it should have read "...to naME an event...".
Blame it on Chuck the keyboards! And sorry for the confusion. smiling bouncing smiley

(Still: something good came out of it. I wasn't aware of the extra dimensions this festival has. Thanks for pointing that out!)

Re: The Rolling Stones live in 2015
Posted by: drbryant ()
Date: January 15, 2015 11:32

I booked a room and airfare, etc, WAAYYYY in advance to see the Stones at Aloha Stadium on the Bigger Bang Tour - all at nice discounts given the fact that it was Thanksgiving holiday weekend. The Stones cancelled the shows. I was looking at huge cancellation penalties, so we went to Hawaii and spent four days just sitting around watching the kids play in the ocean - but it was awesome. Hawaii is one of those special places - you can do absolutely nothing, and feel like you've had the best vacation of your life.

Re: The Rolling Stones live in 2015
Posted by: bv ()
Date: January 15, 2015 12:54

I would advice anyone to use bookings with cancellation options. When the Stones cancelled in Perth in March last year I lost nothing, except for some shows. All hotels and flights are booked with cancellation options before they happen. Same with Hanging Rock. I was about to hire a car but luckily the cancellation came just in time. I think may be I have had 40 or so Stones shows cancelled, changed or added since 1990. Cardiff, Wembley, Montreal, Atlantic City, Bilbao, Milano, Benidorm, 7 shows down under, two shows added in BA 1998 when I was there, Australia and NZ added to the 2006 tour while on travel and so on and on. It cost a little bit extra but it makes life so more relaxed. If they add another show, like Brookyn 2012, well then you just change flights and hotels.

Bjornulf

Re: The Rolling Stones live in 2015
Posted by: Topi ()
Date: January 15, 2015 13:23

Defintely agree with BV. Booking.com often has the no questions asked, free cancellation option as far as hotels go.

Re: The Rolling Stones live in 2015
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: January 15, 2015 17:11

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drbryant
I booked a room and airfare, etc, WAAYYYY in advance to see the Stones at Aloha Stadium on the Bigger Bang Tour - all at nice discounts given the fact that it was Thanksgiving holiday weekend. The Stones cancelled the shows. I was looking at huge cancellation penalties, so we went to Hawaii and spent four days just sitting around watching the kids play in the ocean - but it was awesome. Hawaii is one of those special places - you can do absolutely nothing, and feel like you've had the best vacation of your life.

There are far worse things in life than to be stuck in Waikiki for 4 days!

Re: The Rolling Stones live in 2015
Posted by: RoughJusticeOnYa ()
Date: January 15, 2015 17:25

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treaclefingers
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drbryant
I booked a room and airfare, etc, WAAYYYY in advance to see the Stones at Aloha Stadium on the Bigger Bang Tour - all at nice discounts given the fact that it was Thanksgiving holiday weekend. The Stones cancelled the shows. I was looking at huge cancellation penalties, so we went to Hawaii and spent four days just sitting around watching the kids play in the ocean - but it was awesome. Hawaii is one of those special places - you can do absolutely nothing, and feel like you've had the best vacation of your life.

There are far worse things in life than to be stuck in Waikiki for 4 days!

...Yup; great local beers over there.

Re: The Rolling Stones live in 2015
Posted by: Aquamarine ()
Date: January 15, 2015 17:49

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bv
I would advice anyone to use bookings with cancellation options. When the Stones cancelled in Perth in March last year I lost nothing, except for some shows. All hotels and flights are booked with cancellation options before they happen. Same with Hanging Rock. I was about to hire a car but luckily the cancellation came just in time. I think may be I have had 40 or so Stones shows cancelled, changed or added since 1990. Cardiff, Wembley, Montreal, Atlantic City, Bilbao, Milano, Benidorm, 7 shows down under, two shows added in BA 1998 when I was there, Australia and NZ added to the 2006 tour while on travel and so on and on. It cost a little bit extra but it makes life so more relaxed. If they add another show, like Brookyn 2012, well then you just change flights and hotels.

Good advice, but just an additional note, there's usually a penalty for changing flights.

Re: The Rolling Stones live in 2015
Posted by: alhavu1 ()
Date: January 15, 2015 18:08

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chriseganstar
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atip
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bv
I have pre-paid a hotel room at the Hotel Pennsylvania across the street from MSG for the next five years. Sooner or later the Stones MIGHT show up for a new years day show, I would not miss it, and that hotel is just "lovely" you know. Just check out Tripadvisor and you will understand. For those who are about to do the same, please think twice though... In fact, don't ever pre-pay anything when it comes to the Stones - at least not flights and hotels.

LOL. The reviews for that place are hilarious. spinning smiley sticking its tongue out One was something like, if you get a choice to stay here or sleep in the gutter, choose the gutter, it's much nicer. A buddy of mine stayed there when The Who did three shows at MSG. I stayed with him for one night and the place was like a flop house from a 1970's detective show.[/q

We stayed there when we went to see the Stones at MSG and then Giants stadium a few years ago !!!!.....massive room with fantastic NY views and....bloody cheap for the location. You get what you pay for, but at the end of the day how much time do you actually spend in your Hotel room apart from sleeping !

It is a disgusting hotel

Re: The Rolling Stones live in 2015
Posted by: saintmick ()
Date: January 15, 2015 18:33

Bjornulf not even the piano player? I wish you were!

Re: The Rolling Stones live in 2015
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: January 15, 2015 19:38

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RoughJusticeOnYa
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treaclefingers
Quote
drbryant
I booked a room and airfare, etc, WAAYYYY in advance to see the Stones at Aloha Stadium on the Bigger Bang Tour - all at nice discounts given the fact that it was Thanksgiving holiday weekend. The Stones cancelled the shows. I was looking at huge cancellation penalties, so we went to Hawaii and spent four days just sitting around watching the kids play in the ocean - but it was awesome. Hawaii is one of those special places - you can do absolutely nothing, and feel like you've had the best vacation of your life.

There are far worse things in life than to be stuck in Waikiki for 4 days!

...Yup; great local beers over there.

Great local beaches, hotels, restaurants and bikinis!

Re: The Rolling Stones live in 2015
Posted by: DeanGoodman ()
Date: January 15, 2015 19:42

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Aquamarine
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bv
I would advice anyone to use bookings with cancellation options ...

Good advice, but just an additional note, there's usually a penalty for changing flights.

Yes, those fees for nonrefundable fares are upwards of $300 these days. But you can pay extra for fares with varying degrees of flexibility. These may also improve your chances of an upgrade, depending on the airline and your frequent-flyer status. It becomes a complicated decision based on economics, risk aversion and chance.

Flights paid with reward miles/points often offer the best flexibility, again depending on your frequent-flyer status.

Re: The Rolling Stones live in 2015
Posted by: kahoosier ()
Date: January 15, 2015 21:25

Aloha Stadium, Valladolid, Atlantic City, ABB after the head injury, the recent rescheduled down under tour...at one point in time it came up as a nearly 30% miss rate as a friend pointed out to me over drinks. Now I can't remember the exact dates we were talking about, shows since Licks started have actually kind of all blurred together in my mind. As I have aged, the down times instead of feeling longer, just feel like times to save money for the next set of shows.

But as I explained to my friend that night, "ain't no use in crying," here we were away from home having drinks at a decent bar and seeing the world. For now I am at a point in life where I spend annual leave either visiting family, or letting the Stones Organization be my tour guide. I'm not sure I would have convinced my sister into Shanghai if not for the concert there, that was a springboard to Beijing and onward. It is one of the most memorable travel experiences she has ever had. I found Prague to be enchanting, but might have never been there without a show in Brno. Transylvania is beautiful, I wouldn't have known that without a show in Bucharest.

Part of it is my oft expressed if whacked out point of view that my friends and I are on tour, and we hire the Stones to play for us twice a week. I have not had a show cancelled where I felt let down and alone in a strange place. I always had friends there to commiserate over a tankard or two while comparing tour talk. It makes it easier to miss a show if it is a part of your vacation plan and not the whole reason that you find yourself away from home. With the last several tours I have filled a passport and added pages travelling, and today's tours really take you on a pleasant range of locations.

Yes , I left Perth to go home last year, but it was because it was close and the airlines were making ( at least to NZ ) rescheduling for the lost tour dates free of charge. As mentioned, it is a gamble anymore. I guess if you can't afford to loose, the only way to avoid it is to not step up to the table. Unfortunately the the time to Casino Boogie is running short, and the idea after all these shows since 1975 of not being there for the Last Time is just too much for me.

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