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It's strange to read that it will be either Santa Clara or Raleigh on July 1. These two cities are three thousands miles apart.
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Hope it's Raleigh.
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Oh cool I'm actually hoping for Santa Clara. Good luck!
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Roadblock for The Rolling Stones to perform in Las Vegas
By Robin Leach
Monday, Feb. 16, 2015 | 5:04 p.m.
Those mid-June plans for a Rolling Stones concert in Las Vegas have hit a roadblock, and I’m told that unless the group changes its mind, the music legends won’t be appearing here.
Is this the TE I met in Stockholm for the Cirkus theatre show during the licks Tour 2003? I was with my wife and you were with your bandmate (Midnight Ramblers)
Originally the British rockers led by Mick Jagger had planned to include Las Vegas as a U.S. “14 On Fire Tour” stop in their current world tour.
The date of June 13 was penciled in at the 16,800-seat MGM Grand Garden Arena, but it turns out that bookings as far away as Europe and Australia have been juggernaut sellouts — in stadiums.
So promoters and management have apparently decided that the group will only play stadiums, not concert halls or arenas.
Even though we have 40,000 seats at Sam Boyd Stadium with room for thousands more standing on the field (remember The Grateful Dead had 125,533 fans there for its final show in 1995), it appears for now that Las Vegas is in jeopardy and struck from The Stones’ current concert plans.
[lasvegassun.com]
So, we never did get any kind of info re. why Sam Boyd Stadium in Las Vegas, NV can't be considered as a possibility for this 2015 summer tour. Even though it's capacity would meet the Stones' requirement for stadiums only this summer. By the way, The Las Vegas Sun, quoted above, is a supplement to the legitimate newspaper for the Vegas area, The Las Vegas Review-Journal. It's not some lying trashy blog like the one we experienced for a while a few months ago which gave us very misleading info re. the Rock-In Rio USA festival May 8-9th of this year.I live in Las Vegas but will gladly go to San Diego if I can possibly score good seats. But of course, if they make a STADIUM stop here I won't need to travel.
Hey Carolyn,
Do the trip to San Diego! Want regret it! Opening night, hard to explain but you go to a show without a clue what they will do for the first 8-10 songs. Go! See you there!
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Thanks so much for the encouraging words. It's kind of a tricky situation for me because I don't have an American Express card or whatever type of credit card might be required for a pre-sale (if they have a pre-sale offer at all). I am sure that without a pre-sale I won't have any chance of a really good seat. I won't go if I can't have a good seat. I hope that doesn't sound too much like whining...a little little part of me deep inside is stamping my foot right now & crying I will try to obtain whatever kind of card might be useful for a pre-sale but I'm not sure I'll qualify for one just now. In 6 months or a year from now, yes, there would be no problem. I appreciate you're saying I can see you there because another issue I'm having is I will be alone & that sounds almost as depressing as not going at all! Thanks for letting me vent. I'll let you know later. Also, see my email on My profile if you'd like or my Facebook page Carolyn Frieburg Graham. I'll have a 1 hr 5 minute flight from Vegas. Do you live cloze to San Diego?
Not so very close, LOL, roughly a 2+12 hours flight away. Live in Norway.
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Is this the TE I met in Stockholm for the Cirkus theatre show during the licks Tour 2003? I was with my wife and you were with your bandmate Jan(Midnight Ramblers) You took a picture of my wife with Bernard Fowler at the Grand Hotel Bar!
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Festival forecaster now saying Moncton NB instead of Quebec, as well as faint hope for Seattle with Bumbershoot Labour Day weekend.
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I agree with lots of your comment, but the $85s were not offered at the beginning of the 2013 tour.
$85 tickets were offered on the inital April 8, 2013 onsale date - [www.iorr.org]
Interesting. I checked that old IORR page and you appear to be correct. However, I remember the $85s being announced late relative to the tour announcement and also late relative to seating prices. I also think tickets were sold before the $85s were announced - presales for some venues? That would have given AEG an indication of demand for the list price tickets. Also, they sold immense amounts of the $85s for many of the arenas. Anyone who does not think that was a form of discounting, to fill seats, is in denial. And in some cases, rather than selling even more $85s, they kept lowering the list prices of unsold seats until they sold - that happened for both Philly concerts.
Except for the "discount" issue (and some other minor points), I agree with most of what GlimmerGirl24 is saying. But the term, "Lucky Dip", was not used for the 2013 NA tour. I've been assuming "Lucky Dip" is a European term used to define something similar to the 2013 North American $85s. Not sure?, since I did not attend any of the 2014 tour.
The poster, who said lots of bad things about Detroit, Pittsburgh, etc. and said good things about NYC, Boston, etc, is very mis-informed. Those "better" big US cities have some very, very bad areas, just as Detriot does - and as most big cities around the world do. And as GlimmerGirl24 said, Detroit, Pittsburgh (not small cities) and the smaller cities all have nice sections. In general, the cities listed for this 2015 tour, are safer places than the 2013 tour US cities.
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I agree with lots of your comment, but the $85s were not offered at the beginning of the 2013 tour.
$85 tickets were offered on the inital April 8, 2013 onsale date - [www.iorr.org]
Interesting. I checked that old IORR page and you appear to be correct. However, I remember the $85s being announced late relative to the tour announcement and also late relative to seating prices. I also think tickets were sold before the $85s were announced - presales for some venues? That would have given AEG an indication of demand for the list price tickets. Also, they sold immense amounts of the $85s for many of the arenas. Anyone who does not think that was a form of discounting, to fill seats, is in denial. And in some cases, rather than selling even more $85s, they kept lowering the list prices of unsold seats until they sold - that happened for both Philly concerts.
Except for the "discount" issue (and some other minor points), I agree with most of what GlimmerGirl24 is saying. But the term, "Lucky Dip", was not used for the 2013 NA tour. I've been assuming "Lucky Dip" is a European term used to define something similar to the 2013 North American $85s. Not sure?, since I did not attend any of the 2014 tour.
The poster, who said lots of bad things about Detroit, Pittsburgh, etc. and said good things about NYC, Boston, etc, is very mis-informed. Those "better" big US cities have some very, very bad areas, just as Detriot does - and as most big cities around the world do. And as GlimmerGirl24 said, Detroit, Pittsburgh (not small cities) and the smaller cities all have nice sections. In general, the cities listed for this 2015 tour, are safer places than the 2013 tour US cities.
You're remembering the Lucky Dips coming in late to the game because there was no hint that they would exist when the first presales started.
Only the California shows sold a lot of $85's. There was about a month to sell the arena tickets in California before show time. Which is a very short time when you have a lower deck priced at $600. The Bay Area show released a bunch before show time and Staples went crazy - as many as a thousand might have been released in the last 24 hours before the show. The press had a heyday with that - publicizing the Stones couldn't fill an arena. That's the last time we saw a mass drop of $85's.
I am not in denial about the $85's. Very few were in seats priced over $85. Approximately 90% were in seats that would have been priced between $50-65 if the Lucky Dip scheme hadn't existed. If your Lucky Dips placed you in the upper deck, you paid roughly $20 more for that seat by buying a Lucky Dip.
The back of the lower deck and upper deck had flex pricing for most of the late May and June concerts. If you checked the ticket company on the right day, you could pick up a $600 seat for $150. The upper deck had flex pricing too. This isn't unusual, the practice has been used in secondary markets since at least the late 1990's. I bought $109 Neil Diamond tickets for $28 last week, I checked Ticketmaster on the right day. I refer to the practice as fire sales, the industry prefers flex pricing. In fact, in the initial pre and general sale, a seat can have two prices, $150 or $75. If the section isn't selling for $150, 20 or 30 minutes into the sale, it will become $75.
While it might seem like a seat was lowered and lowered until it sold, the promoter on a tour with high prices will have figured in flex pricing and papering before even the first pre sale. They will try to sell as many tickets as they can at $600, when sales trickle, some rows in each section will be repriced at $400. When those sales trickle, they might go as low as $150 for a brief time a few days before the concert. Day of the concert, they're back up to $600 except for the stacks that went out to local businesses for free.
A promoter knows how many seats have to be sold at $600 to get into the black. After that, whether they're priced at $5 or $600 is profit. Concert tickets are very similar to airline ticketing and anyone who usually buys only in initial sales would not realize the fluctuation in pricing up to the day of the show.
The Lucky Dip promotion didn't have a name in the US in 2013, we called them Mystery Dates. Last summer in Europe, the Stones officially named the promotion Lucky Dips and increased the price to $100.
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God what a bunch of whiners. The Stones are in their seventies and are not going to be able to do this again. Everyone of the markets that have been rumored for this tour have a longstanding history with the band who obviously don't need the money but do enjoy playing live. This tour is a way of thanking all of those people like they did down under last year and in Asia before that and Europe before that and in the OTHER American markets before that. They might do one offs in LA, London or New York in the next few years but for the big spectacle Stones show this is it. This is all she wrote.
Of course the only way they're going to reach the number of fans that want to see them is to play stadiums. These markets are smaller and far more spread out and are lower population wise compared to NYC, Toronto, DC, Chicago and LA. The cost of living in these places is lower so the people's incomes are proportionately lower as well. Hence, more people at a lower ticket price, one last time. Simple economics. These markets are more like those in Europe where the Stones played virtually all stadiums and festivals as well. O2 notwithstanding nary a basketball or hockey venue in the bunch.
We'll know in a few days but I'm guessing the high-rollers who doled out $250 to $600 for middling tickets in the US in 2013 are going to be shocked. These shows will be priced to sell or else there would be no point in doing them.
Best post of the year! I could not agree more. And this is the reason why I will spend the summer in North America. You only live once.
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DO tickets go on sale this week?
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American Express presale - SERVE Prepaid card
I called American Express yesterday afternoon and asked the same question about the SERVE prepaid cards. I was placed on hold for awhile and when the lady came back she asked me if this was for the Bette Midler presale and I said no it was not.
I told her it was for the Rolling Stones presale this week . She discussed this with a fellow supervisor and said that the American Express presale card will not work; because there has to be a name on the prepaid credit card in order for it to work on the presale. This card (PER THE AGENT) does not show a name on the card.
BUt, when I look online on their website, I see that the SERVE prepaid card shows the customers name on it. So confused. I really don't think these agents knew what they were talking about.
I really hope this works for you Carolyn and whoever else applies. I will go check out their website more to get more clarification.
Going to be a fantastic Stones summer.