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Beast
I know nothing about guitars but officialkeef today tweeted a photo "Backstage at Belgium", which is perhaps the blond one mentioned. Whatever, it seems like the photo is targeted at you guys!
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Niek
So, for me this was a very special one.
I went with my son and it was his very first concert of The Stones. And he liked it very much!!
We stood against the inside of the golden circle, Keith's side and in the back. The GC was 50% empty at Keith's side.
The sound was good but indeed it was soft. For me it was okay, I could talk easily.
The crowd was extremely quiet and dull. No arms in the air, almost no singing along. Most enthusiastic with Miss You.
They played almost perfect, very well. They were smiling a lot and between Keith and Mick there was lots of interaction. Like Pinkpop, and there was almost nothing at Dusseldorf.
The harmonica from Mick sounded so sharp, so clear... Very, very good!
My son said afterwards: "it is very different te see them real than at the video's from YT. I like this better". He liked all the greatest hits but was really disappointed that they didnt do the song vote. He voted for dead flowers.
It was really so great to see him enthusiastic till the end! I enjoyed the show on a very different, relaxed way than all other Stonesshows of my life.
It was very busy by merchandise and lots of stuff was sold out.
I didn't care about the rain, I liked Mick's big hat! But the afterparty at the campsite wasn't there.
And yes, there was someone yelling "homo, homo' at Mick. He stood beside us but was also dancing and singing with the music. So...
It took us about one hour to the campsite, so much traffic. (with bicycle, 3km)
It was a very special Stonesevening in very different ways, but I liked it!
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Green Lady
So they finished on time. A wonderful night, great guitars, the band on fire - but yes, too long a day and too late a start meant it was partly wasted on a crowd too tired to appreciate it fully.
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Green Lady
So they finished on time. A wonderful night, great guitars, the band on fire - but yes, too long a day and too late a start meant it was partly wasted on a crowd too tired to appreciate it fully.
Maybe, but at Pinkpop with very hot sun and you could not bring in anything, even not a bottle of water,also a long wait till Stones started: there was a very enthusiastic public. So that covers it not totally.
Nice review and what a journey!
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Niek
So, for me this was a very special one.
I went with my son and it was his very first concert of The Stones. And he liked it very much!!
We stood against the inside of the golden circle, Keith's side and in the back. The GC was 50% empty at Keith's side.
The sound was good but indeed it was soft. For me it was okay, I could talk easily.
The crowd was extremely quiet and dull. No arms in the air, almost no singing along. Most enthusiastic with Miss You.
They played almost perfect, very well. They were smiling a lot and between Keith and Mick there was lots of interaction. Like Pinkpop, and there was almost nothing at Dusseldorf.
The harmonica from Mick sounded so sharp, so clear... Very, very good!
My son said afterwards: "it is very different te see them real than at the video's from YT. I like this better". He liked all the greatest hits but was really disappointed that they didnt do the song vote. He voted for dead flowers.
It was really so great to see him enthusiastic till the end! I enjoyed the show on a very different, relaxed way than all other Stonesshows of my life.
It was very busy by merchandise and lots of stuff was sold out.
I didn't care about the rain, I liked Mick's big hat! But the afterparty at the campsite wasn't there.
And yes, there was someone yelling "homo, homo' at Mick. He stood beside us but was also dancing and singing with the music. So...
It took us about one hour to the campsite, so much traffic. (with bicycle, 3km)
It was a very special Stonesevening in very different ways, but I liked it!
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Niek
So, for me this was a very special one.
I went with my son and it was his very first concert of The Stones. And he liked it very much!!
We stood against the inside of the golden circle, Keith's side and in the back. The GC was 50% empty at Keith's side.
The sound was good but indeed it was soft. For me it was okay, I could talk easily.
The crowd was extremely quiet and dull. No arms in the air, almost no singing along. Most enthusiastic with Miss You.
They played almost perfect, very well. They were smiling a lot and between Keith and Mick there was lots of interaction. Like Pinkpop, and there was almost nothing at Dusseldorf.
The harmonica from Mick sounded so sharp, so clear... Very, very good!
My son said afterwards: "it is very different te see them real than at the video's from YT. I like this better". He liked all the greatest hits but was really disappointed that they didnt do the song vote. He voted for dead flowers.
It was really so great to see him enthusiastic till the end! I enjoyed the show on a very different, relaxed way than all other Stonesshows of my life.
It was very busy by merchandise and lots of stuff was sold out.
I didn't care about the rain, I liked Mick's big hat! But the afterparty at the campsite wasn't there.
And yes, there was someone yelling "homo, homo' at Mick. He stood beside us but was also dancing and singing with the music. So...
It took us about one hour to the campsite, so much traffic. (with bicycle, 3km)
It was a very special Stonesevening in very different ways, but I liked it!
Very nice to read this. You are very lucky Niek.
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Rolling Hansie
Nice read Green Lady, especially the last part about the Eurostar train, LOL.
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Niek
The sound was good but indeed it was soft. For me it was okay, I could talk easily.
The crowd was extremely quiet and dull. No arms in the air, almost no singing along. Most enthusiastic with Miss You.
They played almost perfect, very well. They were smiling a lot and between Keith and Mick there was lots of interaction. Like Pinkpop, and there was almost nothing at Dusseldorf.
The harmonica from Mick sounded so sharp, so clear... Very, very good!
It was really so great to see him enthusiastic till the end! I enjoyed the show on a very different, relaxed way than all other Stonesshows of my life.
I didn't care about the rain, I liked Mick's big hat!
It was a very special Stonesevening in very different ways, but I liked it!
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@#$%& the whiners! I was there and it was great!
The Midnight Rambler in Werchter:
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Wild Slivovitz
After that, Mick came back with Mick Taylor for a stratospheric Midnight Rambler. That song – which has always been number one in my book – just keeps getting better concert after concert, and Mick Taylor's performance in Werchter was nothing short of incredible. That makes me wonder how much of a musical war machine would this band be in case more space were given to Mick Taylor's contribution, but this topic has already been stressed over and over again.
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24FPS
Sorry, I try not to comment on these particular threads about particular concerts, because those people really seem excited about the particular concert they attended. But sometimes when I see these set in concrete setlists it does anger me. They don't listen to us. They don't care about us and what we want. And as long as they can get enough rubes to pay big bucks, they'll care even less. Hey, I know I'm whizzing up a rope, but there's so little time left with the band, and I hate to see it wasted this way. I guess I put the Stones on a higher pedestal than the other bands, and it's kind of sad to see them go out like this. I guess they already went out with A Bigger Bang.
From my perspective, in Europe (and in Japan as well), the Stones are doing exactly what I thought that they should do to to preserve their legacy. The US shows, where venues were small and ticket prices were very high ($250-$450 nosebleeds, $650-$825 lower stands).
In contrast, the Stones have done it right (in my view) in Europe. Venues are huge, including festivals at Pinkpop, TW Classic, Roskilde. For Stockholm, tickets run from $99 (stands) to about $225 (golden circle in Stockholm is cheaper than nosebleeds in the US), and Stockholm is probably the most expensive European show. The shows have all been instant sell-outs. In Paris, I saw families, and many, many younger fans. In the US the crowds were much older, with many people going alone because they could not afford a ticket for the wife/girlfriend/child. I took my 16 year old daughter to Paris, and she loved it, despite being more of a One Direction fan. I know two younger women (sisters, 25 and 30 years old) who have never seen the Stones, but "thought it would be fun" and actually scheduled their summer vacation in Europe so they could catch the Stones show in Stockholm. That could never have happened in the US.
They are getting their music out to a much wider audience in Europe, and the atmosphere, at least at the 70,000 Stade de France, was terrific. For younger audiences, the songs that first generation fans may have heard too many times sound fresh. All us older fans complain about how Gimme Shelter is a little too "friendly" and complain about Lisa, etc., but my daughter, who had never heard it live, thought it was the highlight of the show. So yes, perhaps the Stones don't care about "us", if by "us" you mean 50-70 year olds who have been to multiple shows over the decades. But by playing larger venues at lower prices, the Stones have allowed a much broader demographic to experience their most well-known music, and I am glad that they are doing it, even think that's the right thing for them to do.
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24FPS
Sorry, I try not to comment on these particular threads about particular concerts, because those people really seem excited about the particular concert they attended. But sometimes when I see these set in concrete setlists it does anger me. They don't listen to us. They don't care about us and what we want. And as long as they can get enough rubes to pay big bucks, they'll care even less. Hey, I know I'm whizzing up a rope, but there's so little time left with the band, and I hate to see it wasted this way. I guess I put the Stones on a higher pedestal than the other bands, and it's kind of sad to see them go out like this. I guess they already went out with A Bigger Bang.
From my perspective, in Europe (and in Japan as well), the Stones are doing exactly what I thought that they should do to to preserve their legacy. The US shows, where venues were small and ticket prices were very high ($250-$450 nosebleeds, $650-$825 lower stands).
In contrast, the Stones have done it right (in my view) in Europe. Venues are huge, including festivals at Pinkpop, TW Classic, Roskilde. For Stockholm, tickets run from $99 (stands) to about $225 (golden circle in Stockholm is cheaper than nosebleeds in the US), and Stockholm is probably the most expensive European show. The shows have all been instant sell-outs. In Paris, I saw families, and many, many younger fans. In the US the crowds were much older, with many people going alone because they could not afford a ticket for the wife/girlfriend/child. I took my 16 year old daughter to Paris, and she loved it, despite being more of a One Direction fan. I know two younger women (sisters, 25 and 30 years old) who have never seen the Stones, but "thought it would be fun" and actually scheduled their summer vacation in Europe so they could catch the Stones show in Stockholm. That could never have happened in the US.
They are getting their music out to a much wider audience in Europe, and the atmosphere, at least at the 70,000 Stade de France, was terrific. For younger audiences, the songs that first generation fans may have heard too many times sound fresh. All us older fans complain about how Gimme Shelter is a little too "friendly" and complain about Lisa, etc., but my daughter, who had never heard it live, thought it was the highlight of the show. So yes, perhaps the Stones don't care about "us", if by "us" you mean 50-70 year olds who have been to multiple shows over the decades. But by playing larger venues at lower prices, the Stones have allowed a much broader demographic to experience their most well-known music, and I am glad that they are doing it, even think that's the right thing for them to do.
i totally agree with your take on the difference between
the American and European Tour. Sadly, the schedules of
pretty much every latter-day Stones Tour fit that pattern.
First they take in the major dough by playing the US (while
warming up, it seems) then they come over to Europe to do
a kind of victory lap with short sets and continually lowering
ticket prices. even more sadly, as they get older they are
getting evermore dependant on the positive vibes from their
audience. which influences their playing abilities more than
one might think. and the fans who could afford the arena shows
of 2013 (or even the "Pit" ) belong to a demographic which, sorry
to say, won't deliver this kind of energy to the band. lastly
(still sadly) the looks of that audience might have been the
reason for the Stones to choose dark arenas, while celebrating
bright and colourful festival spectacles in Europe.
edit: you are japanese, aren't you? are you in Europe right now?
and 24FPS, i also understand your point of view. but by going to
the two german concerts alone, i already got a variety of 22 songs.
three of which were firsts for me. count in Hyde Park #1 and make that
27. four of which were firsts for me. but as i said, they weren't
even close to shaking the rust off back then. which you wouldn't
believe lest you layed eyes on it. so i strongly suggest you try
anything to get to Stockholm and/or Roskilde. and be grateful that
you got the longer sets, a little more variation plus
all those great guest acts!