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Okey, Grzegorz. But ticket scalping works like the stock market. You buy shares, holds on to them for a while and then sell them on. To either a gain or a loss. No one is complaining about the stock market...
A ridiculous and invalid analogy. Everyone who buys and sells on the stockmarket is free to buy and sell at a time of their choosing, in trading hours.
By use of complex algorithms and other underhand tactics, the ticket touts are obstructing those who want to actually consume the service offered i.e. a concert. They are interfering and providing nothing of any value whatsoever themselves. Parasites.
The laws of supply and demand ought to apply - except that the touts are artificially restricting the supply, by the use of various devices to obtain a lot of tickets which Joe Public never gets any opportunity to buy from the authorised seller at the original price. This, and not resale as such, is my real objection to industrial scale ticket-scalping.
Anyway, it looks as if Ticketmaster might have plans to do a bit more in-house scalping: see the description of the Platinum service and dynamic pricing in this article:
[www.theguardian.com]
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Ticketmaster announces UK's first 100pc digitally ticketed event as they clamp down on illegal touts
[www.telegraph.co.uk]
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Ticketmaster announces UK's first 100pc digitally ticketed event as they clamp down on illegal touts
[www.telegraph.co.uk]
Interesting.
One concern over the eventuality of all digital tickets tied to purchasers mobile devices is the loss of the ability to purchase reduced tickets, not the high priced ones. I haven't bought an overpriced ticket from a scalper(tout?) since the eighties, but have bought many reduced last minute tickets regularly over the years since then.
The plus side as far as I can determine is the availability of most all the tickets when they go on sale. Realistically it more likely means more "package" deals for the high demand events, with the promoters continuing to assume the role of the scalpers, selling off the unsold tickets from them at higher prices as the event approaches.
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....just have to hope your phone battery doesn't run out as you approach the venue....
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....just have to hope your phone battery doesn't run out as you approach the venue....
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Stoneage
What about the poor ticket scalpers then? How are they going to support themselves if we put them out of market? They need bread on the table too. Who are we to deny them that?
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What about the poor ticket scalpers then? How are they going to support themselves if we put them out of market? They need bread on the table too. Who are we to deny them that?
Well, maybe, just maybe, they can get up off their fat lazy but expensively clothed arses and learn a skill or profession like everyone else who earns an honest crust? A lot better than sponging off the efforts of others, in their case the artists who write and perform the music and the organisers and event staff. Ticket touts produce NOTHING. They are parasites. Simples.
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what do i need a phone to attend a concert?
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....just have to hope your phone battery doesn't run out as you approach the venue....
I got bigger problems than that..my phone doesn't have email in order to download the 'ticket' to..
Will they accept my laptop... But wait, what if the battery on that runs out
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....just have to hope your phone battery doesn't run out as you approach the venue....
I got bigger problems than that..my phone doesn't have email in order to download the 'ticket' to..
Will they accept my laptop... But wait, what if the battery on that runs out
Ya, I was in a foreign country having to print my digital link that was FINALLY sent to me hours earlier while at the airport/ therefore only my mobile phone w/ an ancient email account/ didn’t remember password/ doesn’t send out emails.
Was very clear: Do Not Show without this link printed out beforehand.
Good times, me a complete no slept wreck @ the little Twick copy store praying to the gods I can finagle the ticket to print.
I did. But it was dicey.
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....just have to hope your phone battery doesn't run out as you approach the venue....
I got bigger problems than that..my phone doesn't have email in order to download the 'ticket' to..
Will they accept my laptop... But wait, what if the battery on that runs out
Ya, I was in a foreign country having to print my digital link that was FINALLY sent to me hours earlier while at the airport/ therefore only my mobile phone w/ an ancient email account/ didn’t remember password/ doesn’t send out emails.
Was very clear: Do Not Show without this link printed out beforehand.
Good times, me a complete no slept wreck @ the little Twick copy store praying to the gods I can finagle the ticket to print.
I did. But it was dicey.
A lot of places now have ticket resolution representatives and can often pull your order and print your ticket but if there are thousands of geezers who can't figure this stuff out showing up then you might be lucky to make it in in time for Keith's set.
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....just have to hope your phone battery doesn't run out as you approach the venue....
I got bigger problems than that..my phone doesn't have email in order to download the 'ticket' to..
Will they accept my laptop... But wait, what if the battery on that runs out
Ya, I was in a foreign country having to print my digital link that was FINALLY sent to me hours earlier while at the airport/ therefore only my mobile phone w/ an ancient email account/ didn’t remember password/ doesn’t send out emails.
Was very clear: Do Not Show without this link printed out beforehand.
Good times, me a complete no slept wreck @ the little Twick copy store praying to the gods I can finagle the ticket to print.
I did. But it was dicey.
A lot of places now have ticket resolution representatives and can often pull your order and print your ticket but if there are thousands of geezers who can't figure this stuff out showing up then you might be lucky to make it in in time for Keith's set.
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Stoneage
What about the poor ticket scalpers then? How are they going to support themselves if we put them out of market? They need bread on the table too. Who are we to deny them that?
Well, maybe, just maybe, they can get up off their fat lazy but expensively clothed arses and learn a skill or profession like everyone else who earns an honest crust? A lot better than sponging off the efforts of others, in their case the artists who write and perform the music and the organisers and event staff. Ticket touts produce NOTHING. They are parasites. Simples.
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What about the poor ticket scalpers then? How are they going to support themselves if we put them out of market? They need bread on the table too. Who are we to deny them that?
Well, maybe, just maybe, they can get up off their fat lazy but expensively clothed arses and learn a skill or profession like everyone else who earns an honest crust? A lot better than sponging off the efforts of others, in their case the artists who write and perform the music and the organisers and event staff. Ticket touts produce NOTHING. They are parasites. Simples.
More importantly, how are the people who are at work all day putting their skills to good use and getting paid appropriately going to do about seeing a concert when they miss out on tickets?
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What about the poor ticket scalpers then? How are they going to support themselves if we put them out of market? They need bread on the table too. Who are we to deny them that?
Well, maybe, just maybe, they can get up off their fat lazy but expensively clothed arses and learn a skill or profession like everyone else who earns an honest crust? A lot better than sponging off the efforts of others, in their case the artists who write and perform the music and the organisers and event staff. Ticket touts produce NOTHING. They are parasites. Simples.
More importantly, how are the people who are at work all day putting their skills to good use and getting paid appropriately going to do about seeing a concert when they miss out on tickets?
I agree that can be an issue. Ticket sales from the primary seller, should be on a Saturday if possible. Or they could sell them in batches on different days so as not to prejudice against those working on the first ticket release.
Above all, NO solution should ever involve Viagogo or similar scummy parasites.
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exhpart
Just to contribute: on BBC lunchtime news today they said Viagogo is taking legal action against Ed Sheeran's promoter. Hope it costs them plenty (and then they lose)
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grzegorz67
I know this will be a red rag to a bull for PaulyWaul but quite unbelievably, there are actually tickets on sale at inflated prices on Viagogo for the 3D CINEMA SCREENING of the Havana gig in London on Friday. Not even a live show! Absolutely bonkers.