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As long as there is greed and status, there will be ticket scalping.

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As long as there is greed and status, there will be ticket scalping.

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As long as there is greed and status, there will be ticket scalping.

Now scalpers (Stubhub, etc) are doing things like sponsoring stadiums & teams. It's here to stay. I have never been able to understand how Ticketmaster is allowed to scalp their own product. It's insane. I watched a PBS documentary on Jeff Bezos where he talked about "consumerism" like it was a religion. Of course with him as the high priest. Strange & in a lot of ways bad times.

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As long as there is greed and status, there will be ticket scalping.

Now scalpers (Stubhub, etc) are doing things like sponsoring stadiums & teams. It's here to stay. I have never been able to understand how Ticketmaster is allowed to scalp their own product. It's insane. I watched a PBS documentary on Jeff Bezos where he talked about "consumerism" like it was a religion. Of course with him as the high priest. Strange & in a lot of ways bad times.

What is there to disallow and how would you do it?

Live Nation pays huge upfront fees for the right to produce whole tours so they can do whatever it takes to recoup their investment and make a profit.

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Elmo Lewis
As long as there is greed and status, there will be ticket scalping.

Now scalpers (Stubhub, etc) are doing things like sponsoring stadiums & teams. It's here to stay. I have never been able to understand how Ticketmaster is allowed to scalp their own product. It's insane. I watched a PBS documentary on Jeff Bezos where he talked about "consumerism" like it was a religion. Of course with him as the high priest. Strange & in a lot of ways bad times.

What is there to disallow and how would you do it?

Live Nation pays huge upfront fees for the right to produce whole tours so they can do whatever it takes to recoup their investment and make a profit.

Back in the day, any scalping was illegal in any form. Things were a lot more straight forward. Out of respect for BV, won't get into a discussion about the politics or morality of it. I try to do all I can to avoid scalping, resort fees, flexible pricing, etc. It's hard work but am largely successful. Also, I try to find ways to avoid dealing with large corporations. Until recently, I work for 1 of the bigger ones & disillusioned would be a good word. I don't make any judgements on how anyone chooses to live their lives. I just choose to try & live as I described. My motto is be what you want to be, do what you want to do. It's all good as long as no one gets hurt & I don't have to watch if I don't want to. Haha.

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As long as there is greed and status, there will be ticket scalping.

Now scalpers (Stubhub, etc) are doing things like sponsoring stadiums & teams. It's here to stay. I have never been able to understand how Ticketmaster is allowed to scalp their own product. It's insane. I watched a PBS documentary on Jeff Bezos where he talked about "consumerism" like it was a religion. Of course with him as the high priest. Strange & in a lot of ways bad times.

What is there to disallow and how would you do it?

Live Nation pays huge upfront fees for the right to produce whole tours so they can do whatever it takes to recoup their investment and make a profit.

Back in the day, any scalping was illegal in any form. Things were a lot more straight forward. Out of respect for BV, won't get into a discussion about the politics or morality of it. I try to do all I can to avoid scalping, resort fees, flexible pricing, etc. It's hard work but am largely successful. Also, I try to find ways to avoid dealing with large corporations. Until recently, I work for 1 of the bigger ones & disillusioned would be a good word. I don't make any judgements on how anyone chooses to live their lives. I just choose to try & live as I described. My motto is be what you want to be, do what you want to do. It's all good as long as no one gets hurt & I don't have to watch if I don't want to. Haha.

Scalping is primarily a trespassing violation with regards to unauthorized ticket selling on private property. If you have any evidence that any ticket reselling at all was illegal in all 50 states (I assume you are in the U.S.) I would love to see it.

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As long as there is greed and status, there will be ticket scalping.

Now scalpers (Stubhub, etc) are doing things like sponsoring stadiums & teams. It's here to stay. I have never been able to understand how Ticketmaster is allowed to scalp their own product. It's insane. I watched a PBS documentary on Jeff Bezos where he talked about "consumerism" like it was a religion. Of course with him as the high priest. Strange & in a lot of ways bad times.

What is there to disallow and how would you do it?

Live Nation pays huge upfront fees for the right to produce whole tours so they can do whatever it takes to recoup their investment and make a profit.

Back in the day, any scalping was illegal in any form. Things were a lot more straight forward. Out of respect for BV, won't get into a discussion about the politics or morality of it. I try to do all I can to avoid scalping, resort fees, flexible pricing, etc. It's hard work but am largely successful. Also, I try to find ways to avoid dealing with large corporations. Until recently, I work for 1 of the bigger ones & disillusioned would be a good word. I don't make any judgements on how anyone chooses to live their lives. I just choose to try & live as I described. My motto is be what you want to be, do what you want to do. It's all good as long as no one gets hurt & I don't have to watch if I don't want to. Haha.

Scalping is primarily a trespassing violation with regards to unauthorized ticket selling on private property. If you have any evidence that any ticket reselling at all was illegal in all 50 states (I assume you are in the U.S.) I would love to see it.

I just know how it was in Seattle when I was in high school in the late 70s. It was a city by city, state by state thing. As far as Livenation goes, we managed to have concerts before they existed. I suppose you know that they own Ticketmaster, too. Incidentally, we survived just fine before them, too. We used to camp out at ticket outlets for big shows such as Led Zeppelin in 1977 for 1 example. I actually beat them in a dispute & got an apology from the CEO of Livenation. They refused to sell me disabled seats to a Seattle Seahawks game illegally as I am certified by the state as disabled. I sicced a local consumer advocate on them & was on tv. It got picked up a little nationally, too. TM of course tried to throw the Seahawks under the bus when they had nothing to do with it. I ended up with the apology & prime tickets to the biggest game of the year. In gratitude, the Seahawks also were selling me disabled seats at season ticket prices for some years. Check out article below. It's all just wrong. Greed uber alles. Why are corporations considered people? It's just already obscenely rich douche bags living off the fat of the land contributing nothing. Sorry for the rant.

[www.tampabay.com]


It's just a concert. People can stop spending the money and the prices come down. Consumers are absolutely at fault, they drove the prices up by continuing to pay whatever was asked.

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Do scalpers pay taxes on the profits they make on reselling tickets?
Rockandroll,
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Early Today on NBC reported today that Ticketmaster changed there policy where they are not issuing refunds for postponed events which we already knew . My hope is people wake up and tell Ticketmaster where to go ! Who knows maybe Congress will take this up and do something about it . Negative attention could maybe force something positive to happen ?

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Jolly good news from Australia.

VIAGOGO fined by the main consumer regulator - $7m (AU).

[www.theguardian.com]

Let's hope they suffer.

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CaptainCorella
Jolly good news from Australia.

VIAGOGO fined by the main consumer regulator - $7m (AU).

[www.theguardian.com]

Let's hope they suffer.

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[www.theguardian.com]

Competition watchdog intervenes in Viagogo's $4bn takeover of StubHub

Regulator says deal between controversial ticket resale firms would harm consumers

The UK element of the takeover of ticket resale website StubHub by its rival Viagogo has been provisionally blocked by the competition watchdog, throwing the future of the controversial $4bn tie-up into doubt.

The Competition and Markets Authority (CMA) said Viagogo, which pressed ahead with the deal despite a warning from the watchdog, must now address its concerns, potentially by selling all or part of StubHub.

Stuart McIntosh, the chair of the CMA inquiry group, said: “The evidence we’ve seen so far consistently points in the same direction – that Viagogo and StubHub have a market share of more than 90% combined and compete closely with each other.

“We are therefore concerned that their merger could lead to secondary ticketing customers facing higher fees and lower quality services. We’re now inviting comments on our provisional findings and possible remedies.”

The takeover has already been described as the “worst deal in history” after it was completed shortly before the pandemic shut down the vast majority of live events around the world.

The CMA is understood to have received submissions from music industry groups concerned about the power the combined company would wield.

Both firms have drawn fire from musicians such as Ed Sheeran, as well as from MPs, for repeatedly misleading consumers and exploiting alliances with powerful ticket touts to profit from fans’ devotion to their idols.