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DoomandGloomSH I've been seeing shows since 1974 in fact there is a fan in the movie "Almost Famous" who's loosely based on my exploits following Led Zep on a Northeastern tour. Zep knew me enough to let me tag along for a day at Disney World and ride VIP. Me and Robert Plant sang The Immigrant Song at Space Mountain. My point here is I've seen everything and everyone since 1974, Miles, Cash, Pink Floyd's The Wall 3 nights!, Zappa, Keith Moon et et et.. The 2013 50+ tour is as good as anything I've seen and certainly as good as any Stones I've attended. People say the current tour and lineup is BS but I am in awe as Mick sings with heart and the band that was once fueled by drugs now for the first time makes music the priority, I almost see this as payback to us fans who sat through some rugged garbage trying to follow these guys who too often were not fit for stage. The Stones are giving a great show with sidemen that matter, it worth the price of admission to hear Bobby Keys.Quote
stonehearted
Reading through this thread makes me realize that in fact I was born too late and missed the last great Stones tour. Boy, that's just great.
Ian McLagan, who some say is the most obvious choice blew his opportunity. No doubt people would dislike him. I am not sure of how you are determining Chuck ruins MR. Were you at the show, is it a UTUBE clip? All boogie woogie piano guys overplay from time to time, usually it's how they're placed in the mix that matters. Maybe he represents the victim in the song oblivious to the MR until attacked and then snatched by Mick Taylor's feedback..Quote
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Ian Stewart (RIP) was NOT a druggie!!! Whiskey, coffee and cheese sandwiches, that's all.
And YES, Chuck DOES destroy MR with that strange happy, unworried tinkling.
Why doesn't he play some quiet organ all the way on it? Like Billy did in '73 for instance (although quiet and Billy does not exactly go hand in hand).
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Commentators regarding Chuck being inappropriate should consider this. In a great musical situation where freedom to express oneself is still the most important element you don't take on a seasoned player and tell him what to play. Listening to Chuck on BS here, it sounds like him. I watched him play dozens of times in the 70's that's what he sounds like, he didn't suck then and doesn't suck now. How anyone can say a couple of boogie woogie parts ruin a performance is beyond me, this is not Nicky, Stu or Billy it's Chuck, just as famous, just as many hits but his interpretation. With a guy like this who doesn't play bum notes perhaps a listen for what you do like instead of what you don't is in order. I was clearly shocked when I joined here at the Chuck slamming but posters then kept it light and it was more a running joke than this. For those who want "studio types" playing records on stage there's some great stuff... The Who, Macca et et... The Stones will never be that, they are cavalier.
When I watch Glastonbury I am reminded in a great band the sum is always greater than the individuals, something I forgot when I slammed Ronnie. To defend the guitarists, I've been seeing these guys my entire adult life and they made as many "mistakes" in 78 as they do now. With all Brit guitar heroes it's about what they mean to play not what they execute, puts us on stage cheering for them to hit the note.
No one said Chuck sucks, he's just inappropriate on some songs. Midnight Rambler is not a tinkly, wild west good time show. It's a serious, dark song and it deserves to be played that way by all the musicians involved. I just listen to him on the Allman Brothers 'Brothers & Sisters' album and he was great. So where is that emotion now? Yeah, he fills the hole where a piano is supposed to be, but come on, you don't get much feeling from it.
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Serious people are aware that live performances were musically and emotionally
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So predictible Chuck... Light years from the genuineness of the RS music I (we) love, especially the sound of the concerts of the early seventies.
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PS- on a separate note, I am also in agreement with others who have posted their displeasure with the way Chuck's keyboard playing skills on Midnight Rambler. For lack of a better description, his "tinkling" sounds too upbeat/cheery for such a dark song. I find his playing on Midnight Rambler as a distraction-which is sad as that tune, in and of itself, is a showpiece of their set.
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PS- on a separate note, I am also in agreement with others who have posted their displeasure with the way Chuck's keyboard playing skills on Midnight Rambler. For lack of a better description, his "tinkling" sounds too upbeat/cheery for such a dark song. I find his playing on Midnight Rambler as a distraction-which is sad as that tune, in and of itself, is a showpiece of their set.
Thank you. Someone in an earlier post intimated that we have to heard it in a YouTube clip, or some other to intimate we didn't what our ears were telling us. Hell, I just watched Hyde Park on my HD TV on a 5.1 Surround stereo. I heard f-ing tinkling on Midnight Rambler! Like he was entertaining at a Farrell's Ice Cream Parlor for a kid's birthday party!
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Commentators regarding Chuck being inappropriate should consider this. In a great musical situation where freedom to express oneself is still the most important element you don't take on a seasoned player and tell him what to play. Listening to Chuck on BS here, it sounds like him. I watched him play dozens of times in the 70's that's what he sounds like, he didn't suck then and doesn't suck now. How anyone can say a couple of boogie woogie parts ruin a performance is beyond me, this is not Nicky, Stu or Billy it's Chuck, just as famous, just as many hits but his interpretation. With a guy like this who doesn't play bum notes perhaps a listen for what you do like instead of what you don't is in order. I was clearly shocked when I joined here at the Chuck slamming but posters then kept it light and it was more a running joke than this. For those who want "studio types" playing records on stage there's some great stuff... The Who, Macca et et... The Stones will never be that, they are cavalier.
When I watch Glastonbury I am reminded in a great band the sum is always greater than the individuals, something I forgot when I slammed Ronnie. To defend the guitarists, I've been seeing these guys my entire adult life and they made as many "mistakes" in 78 as they do now. With all Brit guitar heroes it's about what they mean to play not what they execute, puts us on stage cheering for them to hit the note.
No one said Chuck sucks, he's just inappropriate on some songs. Midnight Rambler is not a tinkly, wild west good time show. It's a serious, dark song and it deserves to be played that way by all the musicians involved. I just listen to him on the Allman Brothers 'Brothers & Sisters' album and he was great. So where is that emotion now? Yeah, he fills the hole where a piano is supposed to be, but come on, you don't get much feeling from it.
I do say that Chuck sucks ... at least in the last 25 years.
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Commentators regarding Chuck being inappropriate should consider this. In a great musical situation where freedom to express oneself is still the most important element you don't take on a seasoned player and tell him what to play. Listening to Chuck on BS here, it sounds like him. I watched him play dozens of times in the 70's that's what he sounds like, he didn't suck then and doesn't suck now. How anyone can say a couple of boogie woogie parts ruin a performance is beyond me, this is not Nicky, Stu or Billy it's Chuck, just as famous, just as many hits but his interpretation. With a guy like this who doesn't play bum notes perhaps a listen for what you do like instead of what you don't is in order. I was clearly shocked when I joined here at the Chuck slamming but posters then kept it light and it was more a running joke than this. For those who want "studio types" playing records on stage there's some great stuff... The Who, Macca et et... The Stones will never be that, they are cavalier.
When I watch Glastonbury I am reminded in a great band the sum is always greater than the individuals, something I forgot when I slammed Ronnie. To defend the guitarists, I've been seeing these guys my entire adult life and they made as many "mistakes" in 78 as they do now. With all Brit guitar heroes it's about what they mean to play not what they execute, puts us on stage cheering for them to hit the note.
No one said Chuck sucks, he's just inappropriate on some songs. Midnight Rambler is not a tinkly, wild west good time show. It's a serious, dark song and it deserves to be played that way by all the musicians involved. I just listen to him on the Allman Brothers 'Brothers & Sisters' album and he was great. So where is that emotion now? Yeah, he fills the hole where a piano is supposed to be, but come on, you don't get much feeling from it.
I do say that Chuck sucks ... at least in the last 25 years.
Maybe someone keeps sneaking up to Chuck's setlist and is changing it from MR to "jessica".
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EasterMan
That last great tour and also their best in my opinion was the Licks-tour 2002-2003.
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MarkSchneider
Serious people are aware that live performances were musically and emotionally
on top in the early seventies.
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Ruby Friday
The last great Stones' Tour, is always the last one !