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DandelionPowderman
IMO, a good song can be played around a campfire, without any solos, and still be awesome. That's the acid test, really.
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DandelionPowderman
IMO, a good song can be played around a campfire, without any solos, and still be awesome. That's the acid test, really.
I wouldn't mind a great solo, though, but it doesn't make or break a song for me.
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TheGreek
Probably my favorite track from Bridges to Babylon esp. Billy Preston's B3 Fill .I remember when this first came out and I was loving the B3 Fill and then I found out it was the late great Billy Preston's B3 Organ ,which to me was pretty wild .
Yes, and there's something hypnotic the way the tune starts minimally almost as if it's a live take and then builds momentum and escalates when Charlies drums kick in.
And then it switches gears with ..."I thought I heard an angel cry"... It's the best off of Bridges, and the last of the great original Stones songs imo.
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TheGreek
Probably my favorite track from Bridges to Babylon esp. Billy Preston's B3 Fill .I remember when this first came out and I was loving the B3 Fill and then I found out it was the late great Billy Preston's B3 Organ ,which to me was pretty wild .
Yes, and there's something hypnotic the way the tune starts minimally almost as if it's a live take and then builds momentum and escalates when Charlies drums kick in.
And then it switches gears with ..."I thought I heard an angel cry"... It's the best off of Bridges, and the last of the great original Stones songs imo.
Oohhh high praise from the Hairball ;-). Glad you like it so much. Now I’m going to have to play it later.
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35love
Oohhh high praise from the Hairball ;-). Glad you like it so much. Now I’m going to have to play it later.
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DandelionPowderman
IMO, a good song can be played around a campfire, without any solos, and still be awesome. That's the acid test, really.
Well, if you have enough of good acid, any song will sound awesome under those circumstances. At least, what that's what I heard the 'big boys' say...><
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DandelionPowderman
IMO, a good song can be played around a campfire, without any solos, and still be awesome. That's the acid test, really.
I wouldn't mind a great solo, though, but it doesn't make or break a song for me.
Fair enough, but do you consider Santana's Samba Pa Ti to be a great (instrumental ) song ? I do. Torn an Frayed is a great song as well. So there must be something in between. That's all I wanna say : it's not always black or white in music, at least to me.
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wanderingspirit66
I distinctly recall a Mark Knopfler interview from the 80s. His quote was something to the effect "When I put on a great Rolling Stones record, I never wonder, god forbid, where's the solo?"
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Doxa
But that said, as far as "Saint of Me" go, and no matter how much I like the song and think it as one of their best latter-day songs, it is a rather orthodoxical, musically 'by-the-numbers' piece in their catalogue, like almost any 'latter-day' song, and doesn't any longer possess those qualities (I described above) I so much admired back in the day. The 'test' is that its charm vanishes quite quickly - it is rather obvious-sounding piece, with some too obvious-sounding musical choices, and after a few listenings there is not much to excite imagination any longer. But I like it if I only doesn't listen it too often...
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You are 100% correct that the new Roger Waters album does not feature the classic David Gilmour guitar solos , but I can listen to it and enjoy it non the less and I am a guitarist myself and I kind of like the way Roger Waters crafted the songs on the new album because it's not Floyd and Gilmour is not part of the Rodger band or recording unit .This is after all post Floyd era but yet still stays true to the Floydian esqe style which I dearly love .Back to Saint of Me -which is a beauty to me because of the way that Billy Preston speaks thru his Hammond B3 Organ , such a beautiful sound ( Chuck did a nice job live with it but it's just not the same) .One of my big regrets is not being able to witness The late Great Billy Preston with the Glimmer Twins live in concert especially the 1975 North American tour .Quote
Hairball
There are many great rock and roll songs that have no guitar solos whatsoever.
For example, Roger waters newest has no guitar solos, and some old school Pink Floyd fans were up in arms about because it went up against their belief system.
Whether it's a good album or not is debatable (I happen to love it) but I don't think that rests with the decision to have no guitar solos one way or the other, and I don't think any would have improved it.
A few here and there might have been nice perhaps, but the album stands on it's own merits and as a complete piece. And then there's alot of great punk songs that have no guitar solos whatsoever.
And there's some Who songs that have no guitar solos to speak of, yet are great as they are. Would Saint of Me been better had it been given a guitar solo? Maybe...maybe not...maybe a stinging wah wah laden Mick Taylor solo ala 100 Years Ago would have taken it to the stratosphere, but then again probably unnecessary.
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bitusa2012
I loved it when I first heard it, then gradually thru the years the shine wore off. Like me, in fact, it has not aged well.
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GasLightStreet
Did NO SECURITY ever get brickwalled and reissued by UMe?
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Topi
Speaking of the Dutch and this song, the Vredenburg 2003 theater show comes to mind!
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keefriff99
I thought both Saint of Me and OOC had the potential to become latter-day warhorses. Not sure why it didn't materialize.
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keefriff99
I thought both Saint of Me and OOC had the potential to become latter-day warhorses. Not sure why it didn't materialize.
They still do the latter quite often, though.