The technology was electric, as was the sound?

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DandelionPowderman
The technology was electric, as was the sound?

All instruments with a pick up stuck on them are electric.

The use of transducer type pick up is mainly used to try and replicate the acoustic sound. This is why they are found on most modern electro-acoustic instruments.

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His Majesty

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DandelionPowderman
The technology was electric, as was the sound?

All instruments with a pick up stuck on them are electric.

The use of transducer type pick up is mainly used to try and replicate the acoustic sound. This is why they are found on most modern electro-acoustic instruments.

Right. I was very drunk posting last night. He he, I know. Dunno what I was thinking of. Heck, forget it, you're right

Anyway.

Maybe for the next shows Keith should play JJF on an acoustic, into the microphone of a vintage Philips cassette recorder, plugged into the PA.><

..and maybe Line 6 could come up with a JJF patch for their Variax

A little Philips-set would be awesome!

SFM
New Song
JJF
Parachute Woman

Betcha the Doom and Gloom riff would have sounded good through that.

I reckon Kasabian had that sound in mind when they recorded this...

Yes yes yes! Thanks HM! I need one of those. Where can i buy one???

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Redhotcarpet
Yes yes yes! Thanks HM! I need one of those. Where can i buy one???

I got mine on ebay.

Unless the seller has changed the drive belts you will most likely have a clean up job ahead of you as the old belts turn to a tar like substance and make quite a mess inside the machine. Takes ages to get rid of it all.

Replacement belts are easily found on ebay as well.





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Have you experimented with getting even closer to the mic? From the way Keith tells it, ive always imagined him leaning right over the machine 2 or 3 inches away.

There's gotta be a balance somewhere, where even more of the acoustic ringing sound almost disappears. Or will it be to distorted, His Majesty?

There's no need to go right in to get the sound and I doubt he had it right in close because doing so tends to make the lower frequencies overtake all of the sound.

Keep in mind Charlie played basic pattern on his travel drum set and Brian sitar on the basic cassette recording for SFM. They also would have for sure done compression and eq once thay had it on the 8 track.

There's a level control for recording and a level control for playback. This thing overloads very easily, combination of full on level when recording, then full on level when playing back makes it sound like your playing through an intense fuzz pedal.



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That´s true.

I used to record my band in rehearsal with an old cassette recorder some years ago. I played with a medium clean sound, and it was vocals, bass and drums as well. Because of the instruments/speakers placing in the room, only the guitar got distorted. The other instruments came across excellently in the recording, sounding wonderful. And the "fake" distortion fit like a glove to the sound mix.

That´s the closest experiment to this I´ve done with a similar kind of recording.

It was a Phillips from the mid-late 70s, I believe. Still have the tapes

For those that want to get one, either of these will do much the same job...

The very first one EL3300 fom 1963/64, the El3301 from circa 1965/66 or the El3302 from circa 1967/68.

I think it is likley that Keith used the EL3302 for SFM, JJF and PW as that was the first one to have a dedicated speaker out. A line out can be taken from all 3 of them though.

They appeared under different brand names as well because Philips allowed free license of the design.

The key thing to avoid is any cassette recorder that doesn't have a level control for recording and has what is called AGC, Automatic Gain Control. AGC will push the level down when it gets too much or push the level up when the signal is weak. This can give recordings a kind of swooshing effect as the levels are automatically brought to optimum level.



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For those of you who'd watched Jeopardy! everyday since the fall of 1984, I'd like to tell you the whole police-siren aspect can be found in its theme song "A Time for Tony" that you hear at the start and during the "Final Jeopardy!" round.

~Ben