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-Link Wray: HELLO ??? - ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT GUITARIST IN THE HISTORY OF ROCK N ROLL !!! DO THEY EVEN HAVE TO ASK - without him, there would be no Stooges, Iggy Pop, no Keith, no WHO and no Pete Townshed, No Beatles, No Hendrix ...are you kidding me !! He should be there already !! Not even a Question about it !!!


LINK WRAY !!!! - He should go first !!! ohers can lick his feet..well, I know he's dead...but you get my point.

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jazzbass
Eventually everyone gets in.

This.

They ran out of first tier inductees years ago, but they must keep the thing going somehow and have new inductees every year...hence letting anyone and everyone in, regardless of genre or talent. It's no longer "rock and roll" or a hall of "fame."

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tatters
what gets me is the amount of time certain bands have to wait to get inducted while other much less deserving acts get in the very first year they become eligible. Even if a band like Deep Purple does get in this year, the fact is they have been eligible for induction since 1993 and have been snubbed 20 times while someone like Madonna got in the very first year she was on the ballot. That seems like a terrible insult to Deep Purple and I think any band that gets inducted after having had to wait that long should tell them to just go and stick it.

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Ladykiller
My 6 picks are:

Deep Purple
KISS
Yes
Peter Gabriel
Cat Stevens
Hall & Oates

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stonehearted
And speaking of being snubbed, it appears that Mr. Wenner feels that Madonna is more influential a "rock" artist than, say, Lemmy. I mean, Hawkind, Motorhead? If Wenner is kept in charge of nominees and inductees, then it's only a matter of time before Britney Spears gets in.

At least the Blues Foundation has a board of directors with 23 members, so it's not a tyranny of favoritism and short-sighted ignorance like the rock HoF. Maybe they should have limited the rock HoF to induction ceremonies every 5 years, but Wenner probably does it for the annual party--you have to have something penciled in on your social calendar.

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jazzbass
Eventually everyone gets in.

This.

They ran out of first tier inductees years ago, but they must keep the thing going somehow and have new inductees every year...hence letting anyone and everyone in, regardless of genre or talent. It's no longer "rock and roll" or a hall of "fame."

Understood, but what gets me is the amount of time certain bands have to wait to get inducted while other much less deserving acts get in the very first year they become eligible. Even if a band like Deep Purple does get in this year, the fact is they have been eligible for induction since 1993 and have been snubbed 20 times while someone like Madonna got in the very first year she was on the ballot. That seems like a terrible insult to Deep Purple and I think any band that gets inducted after having had to wait that long should tell them to just go and stick it.

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seitan
Wheres Lemmy,
Where is Roky Erickson and the 13th Floor Elevators
for inventing Psychedelic rock,

where is MC5 And The New York Dolls for influencing millions of punk bands, or The Sonics.
where is Joy Division for inventing all things Goth, -
Where's the Cramps for inventing psychobilly and for being the first band on the planet to mix psychedelia with rockabilly - and where's Gene Vincent
and Eddie Cochran...Link Wray is not the only 50's rocker that should be there, - Johnny Burnette And His Rock N Roll Trio should be there for being one the greatest 50's rock bands ever...

Where the hell is Alan Vega's and Martin Rev's electronic band The Suicide - for pioneering electronic music

where's Nick Cave ? Captain Beefheart anyone ?
where's Tom Waits... I woudn't mind seeing women there too...or is that a mens club, - I mean where's Marianne Faithfull, Siouxie, The Slits, Joan Jett, I'm not even sure if Janis Joplin is there ?? - Is she ?

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seitan
Wheres Lemmy,
Where is Roky Erickson and the 13th Floor Elevators
for inventing Psychedelic rock,

where is MC5 And The New York Dolls for influencing millions of punk bands, or The Sonics.
where is Joy Division for inventing all things Goth, -
Where's the Cramps for inventing psychobilly and for being the first band on the planet to mix psychedelia with rockabilly - and where's Gene Vincent
and Eddie Cochran...Link Wray is not the only 50's rocker that should be there, - Johnny Burnette And His Rock N Roll Trio should be there for being one the greatest 50's rock bands ever...

Where the hell is Alan Vega's and Martin Rev's electronic band The Suicide - for pioneering electronic music

where's Nick Cave ? Captain Beefheart anyone ?
where's Tom Waits... I woudn't mind seeing women there too...or is that a mens club, - I mean where's Marianne Faithfull, Siouxie, The Slits, Joan Jett, I'm not even sure if Janis Joplin is there ?? - Is she ?

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RollingFreak
-Deep Purple: Absolutely a yes. Long overdue and I think they won't be able to avoid getting them in this year.

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RollingFreak
-Peter Gabriel: Fine solo career but should only be in for Genesis. Have we really stooped to Peter's solo career?

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RollingFreak
-KISS: Same as Deep Purple. Whether you like them or not, they are one of the better ones on the ballot and deserve to be in.

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RollingFreak
-Nirvana: They are as good as in and that is so sad.

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RollingFreak
-The Replacements: A fine band but not a rock and roll hall of fame band.

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RollingFreak
-Peter Gabriel: Fine solo career but should only be in for Genesis. Have we really stooped to Peter's solo career?

He's had several hits, a few of them I think are pretty good. And you can't discount the pop culture significance of "In Your Eyes" from "Say Anything".

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RollingFreak
Also, I didn't mean disrespect to Nirvana. I am a fan and they were great. Its just hard for them not to be overrated since Kurt's death. I get it, they were a huge gamechanger, but they don't need every award on the planet as soon as they're able to get it. I'm the biggest GNR fan, and when they were nominated I said "I know they're gonna get in first ballot and I don't agree with that." These bands are great, but its like for one reason or another they need to be honored as soon as possible. GNR and Nirvana could have waited 5 years before going in, they aren't going anywhere. And don't even get me started on Red Hot Chili Peppers. I don't see why these guys need to go in so young.

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Also, I didn't mean disrespect to Nirvana. I am a fan and they were great. Its just hard for them not to be overrated since Kurt's death. I get it, they were a huge gamechanger, but they don't need every award on the planet as soon as they're able to get it. I'm the biggest GNR fan, and when they were nominated I said "I know they're gonna get in first ballot and I don't agree with that." These bands are great, but its like for one reason or another they need to be honored as soon as possible. GNR and Nirvana could have waited 5 years before going in, they aren't going anywhere. And don't even get me started on Red Hot Chili Peppers. I don't see why these guys need to go in so young.

I just think of some of the bands/acts that are in there, some of the stranger/dumber choices, and think "Well why not Nirvana/Peter Gabriel/The Replacements then?". I think they're as deserving as many of the people in there. But I don't really see the point of holding off bands like Nirvana and GNR as if to make a statement or turn how many ballots it took to get in into a contest within a contest. Baseball does that, this is music, art. We all know they're going in, just put them in I say.

I agree that Kurt's death really propelled them to legendary status, but they were HUGE before Kurt died. Maybe they would have slipped into obscurity or churned out a series of disappointing albums before they broke up and then later got back together as a nostalgia act. But Kurt's music didn't become famous posthumously or anything. If they're overrated, then they were overrated while Kurt was alive, because they were rated very high then. I personally don't think the legend of Kurt has really changed people's perception of the music, it's just kept Nirvana alive. In my opinion/experience that is.

Kind of OT (as I know you're a fan), but my dad HATED them. I remember being sick once and he stayed up one night and watched Saturday Night Live with me. Nirvana were the musical guest, and the only word that could describe my dad was disgusted. When they started smashing their instruments he changed the channel and was mumbling something about how if they were good musicians they wouldn't have to do that shit.

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While I'll agree that Nirvana probably deserves to be in, for what they achieved in such a small space of time, I'll never like them the way I would the stones, the who, the kinks, the beatles, led zeppelin, Dylan, Presley, REM, U2 etc.

The only songs I remember from them are angst-ridden, maudlin, self-loathing.

I understand Kurt hurt, and that's where the music came from, but it never went anywhere else. Very one dimensional, to me anyway.

I'd have to be in a pretty down mood to want to listen more than a couple of Nirvana songs in a row...the music's good, the vibe is a downer.

It would be interesting to know if he'd survived how the music would have evolved. I mean after a time, he'd probably even have gotten bored with it. Enough already, let's sing Shiney Happy People and get out of this funk!

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While I'll agree that Nirvana probably deserves to be in, for what they achieved in such a small space of time, I'll never like them the way I would the stones, the who, the kinks, the beatles, led zeppelin, Dylan, Presley, REM, U2 etc.

The only songs I remember from them are angst-ridden, maudlin, self-loathing.

I understand Kurt hurt, and that's where the music came from, but it never went anywhere else. Very one dimensional, to me anyway.

I'd have to be in a pretty down mood to want to listen more than a couple of Nirvana songs in a row...the music's good, the vibe is a downer.

It would be interesting to know if he'd survived how the music would have evolved. I mean after a time, he'd probably even have gotten bored with it. Enough already, let's sing Shiney Happy People and get out of this funk!

I tend to be one who listens to the band and the vocal melodies more than contemplating the actual lyrics. I mean, I think about them sometimes, or read up on what they're about, but when I'm listening to it, I seldom really process it. So even the bummer songs don't bum me out much. But they have a lot of good songs that aren't a bummer, and some that are kind of funny. Like "Sliver", which is about a little boy (Kurt) being dropped off at his grandparents house and pitching a fit wanting to go home and passing out. I always found it pretty funny because I've been there.

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In Bloom has to be funniest chorus in a huge commercial radio hit.

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Max'sKansasCity
I vote they change the name of this dump to-
"The music and rap (because rap is not music) tourist trap
in Cleveland operated by the worst music ragazine in the world"

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Max'sKansasCity
I vote they change the name of this dump to-
"The music and rap (because rap is not music) tourist trap
in Cleveland operated by the worst music ragazine in the world"

perfect! Right on! Especially the part about rap.

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Hairball
Your vote counts...maybe.

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominees: Online Fan Poll

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Your vote counts...maybe.

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominees: Online Fan Poll

VOTE HERE

What if everyone voted to shut the place down and convert the building to condominiums, or even a retirement community for rock and blues musicians, would the votes count then?