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ironbelly
1. Bill-Charlie rhythm section is way better than Paul-Ringo
nobody every doubted this! Paul is most likely a better bass player than Bill, but on the other hand it's Charlie who makes the difference and there can't be any doubt that he beats Ringo by miles.
I guess one aspect in the Beatles' decision to stop touring where problems with the rhythm section (how can you play live – to a non screaming audience - when your drummer has problems in keeping the beat?). Other reasons might be more important (technical difficulties to bring the sound the Beatles achieved in the studio onto stage etc), but the rhythm section problem added to these problems
That's simply not true. Ringo was extremely innovative and had a solid groove, also live. Charlie, in the sixties at least, just bashed away and if you listen in honest to these live recordings, you can hear Charlie pumping and pushing up the tempo, while Ringo just stays there. Big difference.
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RECORD COLLECTOR 457 -- September 2016
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Blueranger
Bill and Charlie a better rhythm section?
Ha-ha. Keep on dreaming...
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RECORD COLLECTOR 457 -- September 2016
A slightly delayed response to this one because I've been unsuccessfully searching my pile of old auction catalogues for either this item, or one very similar.
History has meant that there are actually very few (genuine) fully signed copies of Sgt Pepper. Getting all four at the same time after 1967 was off-scale difficult, and few people had the opportunity to chase around getting them individually. Anyway..
The reason I was hunting through my catalogues was that in the late 1980s I bid at auction for a fully signed Sgt Pepper. Either this one, or one very like it, which was why I was hunting.
Sadly I got my bidding wrong. When bidding you need to know both your personal limit, AND you need to know how the auctioneer (usually) steps up bids. You then step in on a bid that will result in the item being with you on your limit, not against you. That maximises your chances.
The signed Sgt. Pepper I was bidding on was sold for £550, and £505 was my limit. ie it was with me at £500 and the other bidder got it for £50 more.
In those days (less well paid, two small kids etc) I had no further room to manovuer.
Shame really, as (even if it wasn't the one in the cutting) someone's £550 has turned into £74,000. Win some, lose some! But I did at least get a chance to handle it (as well, another time, to put on the top hat George wears on the cover shot of Help!)
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ironbelly
You know, people are talking about rock music but not about an overrated guitar-based boys-band wearing the same suits
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Blueranger
Bill and Charlie a better rhythm section?
Ha-ha. Keep on dreaming...
The effort paid off: Not only is The Rolling Stones in Mono the most sonically satisfying version of these songs, it dramatically illuminates the group's remarkable skills as musicians, arrangers and at performing as a unit purely in service of the songs (for example, on "Good Times Bad Times," Charlie Watts just plays a bass drum). But the artist who truly emerges from the shadows is the band's eternally underrated original bassist, Bill Wyman. For decades, his innovative, melodic bass playing was buried in muddy stereo mixes. Here, it's front and center without being overwhelming, providing the connective tissue between the stinging, driving guitars and Watts' preternatural swing; the two of them are almost undoubtedly the greatest rhythm section in rock history.
During this era, Wyman was the band's true soloist, zooming up and down the fretboard with a flair that's somehow flashy and understated at the same time.
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You know, people are talking about rock music but not about an overrated guitar-based boys-band wearing the same suits
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frankotero
Just played the remastered Hollywood Bowl through my speakers, and a few at high volume and I must say it's very nice. Seems pretty close to modern standards. Is it or will there be something better? I don't know. But if you at least like The Beatles I think you have to get this one. Looking forward to the new film Eight Days A Week. Like this CD I'm expecting to be further wowed!
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jlowe
How can anyone say with certainty that the autographs are genuine?
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jlowe
How can anyone say with certainty that the autographs are genuine?
This, of course, is a universal truth.
I have some things autographed by Beatles/Stones that were done in front of me, for me, and can swear on all we hold Holy that they are genuine. But, of course, as there's no live action film of the events, why should anyone fully believe me. I know all of that.
There are "experts" who reckon that they can "validate" autographs. I'm sure that the the best of them are right most of the time, but I can't see how they can be 100% certain.
Provenance is all. I would hope that (expensive) books bought from (eg) Genesis can be considered fully valid.
It's well know that Neil Aspinall & Mal Evans did vast numbers of signings for The Beatles.
For amusement I have 2 sets of early Stones autographs which have been very closely examined by 'Someone Who Knows'. His decision was that they were either 100% valid, or were all done by Keith Richards (who, I learnt, did that from time to time). An adjudication I was happy with.
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Btw, I decided to do a little research today on the rarity of signed late-period Beatles albums, and discovered that there is indeed one known copy of the Let It Be album that has four authenticated signatures on it. As the story goes, John signed a copy for a fan in 1975. George signed a different copy in the early 1990s. Ringo added his signature to the copy George signed in 2006. A top-notch paper restorer then expertly "melded" the two album covers together, creating a composite cover with three signatures, and Paul signed it in 2010.
Sorry, but my my standards that's not A fully signed album. It's two fully signed albums that have been cut & pasted. A curio, not a real object.
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Just played the remastered Hollywood Bowl through my speakers, and a few at high volume and I must say it's very nice. Seems pretty close to modern standards. Is it or will there be something better? I don't know. But if you at least like The Beatles I think you have to get this one. Looking forward to the new film Eight Days A Week. Like this CD I'm expecting to be further wowed!
I agree, Frank. The harmonies are dead-on...and they couldn't even hear each other over the screams with no monitors! And how did Giles Martin get such a good mix from a 3-track recording? This is a revelation, so glad to finally have a great-sounding live Beatles album! I do wish they had just given us both complete shows, however.
I understand the theaters carrying the movie will also screen the complete Shea Stadium concert remastered! I hope that is included in the Blu-ray!
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Thinking about the album and what I remember of it, it makes me realize Lennon needed McCartney more as a songwriting partner than is readily acknowledged.
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dmay
Thinking about the album and what I remember of it, it makes me realize Lennon needed McCartney more as a songwriting partner than is readily acknowledged.
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jlowe
Macca's words about musical advice above reveals a lot about him, his ego and the fact that in all probability he surrounds himself with yes men.
He needs someone to tell him when his lyrics are too twee, the melodies sub standard etc.
Then he might raise his game and give us some decent material again. There is no denying his talent however, just wish his solo work had been more substantial.
Lennon didn't do much better. Two superb albums and a string of singles up to the lovely Happy Christmas.
A good return to form with Walls and Bridges (recorded in LA and minus Yoko's presence). But otherwise his solo efforts were pretty mediocre.
New York did nothing for his creative juices, it seemed to me.