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"I took Ry Cooder for everything I could get" Keith Richards
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I have a totally different slant on this! I'm amazed by the anti-John vibe here. John was in LOVE, no matter what any of us THINK about Yoko, it was real to John. He did not get a lot of respect back then concerning Yoko...I am not a fan of Yoko's but really, to not understand things from Johns' perspective is a bit narrow-minded, don't you think? I adore Paul, then & now, but he was a bit arrogant and high & mighty back then.
They were so YOUNG, and shared so much, it's a shame to see this kind of nastiness. A good read, however. Very enlightening indeed.
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"I took Ry Cooder for everything I could get" Keith Richards
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dcba
Poor John he really hated everyone... while "selling" hismelf as a peace-loving hippie.
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stone66
The trouble with being so huge and iconic in one's time is that it leaves your entire life open to public scrutiny and judgement, so much so that even after your dead some hatchet-wielding slob like Albert Goldman will be making a buck off your name.
Some even get so high and mighty that they say "...but I wouldn't want to hang out with him". Like that would ever even happen! News flash: People at close proximity are never the same as they appear from a distance. Very few celebrities we admire would ever make a good close personal friend -- what would there be in common? Best to just enjoy what they gave -- their body of work -- and leave their personal lives to those who actually knew them, since you and I were never a part of their personal life experience to begin with.
Lennon self-absorbed? Oh, and I'm certain that term would never apply to a certain Mick Jagger or Keith Richards.
Alas, Beatle-related threads never do well on such a reactionary Stones board as this.
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Hairball
The Beatles will always reign supreme despite the squabbling amongst themselves pre and post breakup.
The groundbreaking music they accomplished in such a short period (and the resulting phenomenon) is what will always be remembered for.
Trailblazers for all that followed...
With that said, Lennon could be a dick.
Musically speaking he's always been my favorite Beatle, but I wouldn't have wanted to be his friend.
I love George, and it might have been fun to smoke a joint with him, but the following conversation might have been too 'out there' for me.
Paul - great music (albeit some of it really sappy), but way too full of himself....never could have hung out with him.
Ringo...'fun loving and lovable'...'peace and love'...blah, blah, blah...no thank you please.
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"I took Ry Cooder for everything I could get" Keith Richards
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I dont get it either
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"I took Ry Cooder for everything I could get" Keith Richards
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I dont get it either
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stanlove
I think John and George were just nasty from everything I have seen. I have seen Mick Jagger agree with this.
I agree with your take on Ringo. But I have never understood why anyone had a negative impression of Paul. Besides a small amount of Beatles stuff I don't like him musically at all but he always seemed like a nice guy from everything I have seen.
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"I took Ry Cooder for everything I could get" Keith Richards
Wondering what Ry Cooder and Keith Richards have do to with this
I dont get it either
It's my signature, it appears on all my posts.
Yes I know ...I remember asking you to put a line before your signature.....so I don't have to read it over and over again
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Hairball
I agree with your take on Ringo. But I have never understood why anyone had a negative impression of Paul. Besides a small amount of Beatles stuff I don't like him musically at all but he always seemed like a nice guy from everything I have seen.
And yes I know we can only go by what we know about them.
First off, anyone who has been immensely successful, vastly rich and obviously sensationally gifted and in the public eye since their 20's is bound to be a bit "different" to the rest of us.
That said, my own first hand personal knowledge of Paul has left me with a very positive impression of his personality and his genuine concern for his fan base.
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stanlove
I agree with your take on Ringo. But I have never understood why anyone had a negative impression of Paul. Besides a small amount of Beatles stuff I don't like him musically at all but he always seemed like a nice guy from everything I have seen.
And yes I know we can only go by what we know about them.
First off, anyone who has been immensely successful, vastly rich and obviously sensationally gifted and in the public eye since their 20's is bound to be a bit "different" to the rest of us.
That said, my own first hand personal knowledge of Paul has left me with a very positive impression of his personality and his genuine concern for his fan base.
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Fixed your quote Captain, as stanlove's reply above was accidentally attributed to me.
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stanlove
I think John and George were just nasty from everything I have seen. I have seen Mick Jagger agree with this.
I agree with your take on Ringo. But I have never understood why anyone had a negative impression of Paul. Besides a small amount of Beatles stuff I don't like him musically at all but he always seemed like a nice guy from everything I have seen.
I don't agree that George was nasty. I've never heard that..
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I think John and George were just nasty from everything I have seen. I have seen Mick Jagger agree with this.
I agree with your take on Ringo. But I have never understood why anyone had a negative impression of Paul. Besides a small amount of Beatles stuff I don't like him musically at all but he always seemed like a nice guy from everything I have seen.
I don't agree that George was nasty. I've never heard that..
f you didn't know George was nasty then you didn't pay much attention. I have seen Jagger mention that also. he said something like for a guy who likes to play of the peace think he was difficult and argumentative.
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The problem with John and Yoko is they were totally self absorbed ( like nobody I have ever seen )
Shut up. That gets old. There is a ton of statements by them, tons of interviews by them, tons of songs by them, tons of things written about them. Get tired of that silly argument that you can't know someone at all with all of that stuff.Quote
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stanlove
The problem with John and Yoko is they were totally self absorbed ( like nobody I have ever seen )
You knew them personally, then?
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virgil
My wife and I saw it when we were in Vegas for the Stones, It was awesome I would highly recommend it. As DEmerson mentioned I was not that excited about the way they mixed some of the songs and they also played a few songs that I absolutely hate. Their were also songs that were not used that surprised me.
Anyway my sister who has seen this show six times gave me some good advice.
Buy the cheapeast seats and sit up high it's a much better visual. The place is not that big so even up top your pretty close.
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Hairball
I could be wrong, but I think it was George Martin who mixed the songs specifically for the show - with approval from Paul McCartney and Ringo (and Yoko?). I also think the entire Cirque/Beatles idea was the brainchild of George Harrison before he died. I bought the LOVE cd when released at the time the Cirque show was still new after seeing it in 2006 (or 2007?), and listened once or twice. It's more of a novelty which works well within the show itself, but outside of that it's unnecessary.
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RipThisBone
OFF TOPIC.
Please change the title of this thread.
THE RUTLES vs THE BEATLES - and other Rutles stuff.
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stanloveShut up. That gets old. There is a ton of statements by them, tons of interviews by them, tons of songs by them, tons of things written about them. Get tired of that silly argument that you can't know someone at all with all of that stuff.Quote
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stanlove
The problem with John and Yoko is they were totally self absorbed ( like nobody I have ever seen )
You knew them personally, then?
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If you are not aware that John Lennon was self absorbed then there is nothing much left to say to you, you are just silly.