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Thanks, Neddie
Did you doubt my statement ?
No, but you never said whether he was on for the entire show or not
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DandelionPowderman
When I went to concerts at the age of 10, 11 or 12 I can't even remember who the support act was - or if there was one. I must be getting old...
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kleermaker
Call it what you want, it's not important. It's all jealousy.
There's nothing to be jealous about.
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svt22
He did represent the school of white blues/rock boys in a very brilliant way.
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kleermaker
Call it what you want, it's not important. It's all jealousy.
There's nothing to be jealous about.
Well, admiration then.
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DandelionPowderman
He sure did. No doubt about it. I really don't think anybody disputes that.
But putting the importance of his contributions up there with Clapton, Page and Beck is a bit of a stretch, imo.
Of course he's just as important as those guitarists for RS fans, but that's it.
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NeddieFlanders
>Taylor didn't play with Preston in Rotterdam, 1973. Just reverse everything >Kleermaker quotes and you'll always get the right answer. Easy.
There's audience recordings from Preston's three Rotterdam-sets with a clearly audible Mick Taylor on one of the shows (probably Oct. 13) and an absent Taylor on the other two (probably Oct. 14.).
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He sure did. No doubt about it. I really don't think anybody disputes that.
But putting the importance of his contributions up there with Clapton, Page and Beck is a bit of a stretch, imo.
Of course he's just as important as those guitarists for RS fans, but that's it.
Yes, most people remember him as a Stone. Ive heard him playing great things after that too.. he's not for the bigger audience indeed.
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kleermaker
PS: Taylor is constantly called a blues guitarist, but he's way more than that, playing brilliantly many musical styles. He proofs that with the Stones, with Billy P, with Bob D, with Carla Olson, to name a few.
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Mathijs
It's quite absurd actually, that one needs to explain the differene between the big 3 and Taylor...
The big three had a changing impact on music -pop/rock/hardrock music changed due to their body of work.
Taylor never had that. He was, as Peter Green, a fantastic melodic player, but neither one didn't change a thing. They listened to the orginal blues greats, and basically repeated what they heard, with a better technique. Green had the best vibrato of them all, but did he change the face of music? I don't think so. Taylor was fantastic in 1972 and 1973, but did he inspire thousands of young people to pick up the guitar? I don't think so.
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kleermaker
PS: Taylor is constantly called a blues guitarist, but he's way more than that, playing brilliantly many musical styles. He proofs that with the Stones, with Billy P, with Bob D, with Carla Olson, to name a few.
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kleermaker
PS: Taylor is constantly called a blues guitarist, but he's way more than that, playing brilliantly many musical styles. He proofs that with the Stones, with Billy P, with Bob D, with Carla Olson, to name a few.
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kleermaker
PS: Taylor is constantly called a blues guitarist, but he's way more than that, playing brilliantly many musical styles. He proofs that with the Stones, with Billy P, with Bob D, with Carla Olson, to name a few.
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kleermaker
PS: Taylor is constantly called a blues guitarist, but he's way more than that, playing brilliantly many musical styles. He proofs that with the Stones, with Billy P, with Bob D, with Carla Olson, to name a few.
The blues is always the foundation for what he plays, kleerie.
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kleermaker
PS: Taylor is constantly called a blues guitarist, but he's way more than that, playing brilliantly many musical styles. He proofs that with the Stones, with Billy P, with Bob D, with Carla Olson, to name a few.
Taylor's been called a genius; a virtuoso and not just by his fans. I think he could have been far more influential,etc., etc., if it weren't for the drugs. He basically threw himself under the bus with his personal problems and habits which is a tragedy really. He knows that. We know that.
I don't know why so many people try to discredit him, though. Just to get a rise out of Taylor(ites)? Fair enough if he isn't someone's favorite artist, but why rain on his parade? I don't understand it.
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Bellajane
All I've heard and read is that Taylor's Era with the Stones is considered their Golden Era...and rightly so...although I do love most of the music with Brian Jones. The early years..until Taylor's departure are my favorite, anyway.
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Mathijs
I've asked around a bit, and this is what I have confirmed so far: Preston opened ALL shows, in fact he was the main support act, not Kracker. Which shows Kracker exactly did is unsure to me, but they did not open all shows.
Taylor is confirmed to have played with Preston on two shows: one Essen show, and the last show of the tour, Berlin. Taylor is confirmed NOT to have played with preston on the opening Vienna show, all German shows (except the one Essen and Berlin shows of course), the Belgium shows, the three Rotterdam shows, and all UK shows.
I do not know about the Scandinavian shows. But, it appears that the reports by John Carr etc. are true: Taylor only played with Preston for the recording of the live album in Essen, and probably decided to jam with them again on the last show of the tour.
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Winston1111
I have been collecting Billy's recordings since July 1973, just as I was turning 12. I'm 52 now and still chasing down rarities that relate to his career. I wanted to mention that there is a GREAT bootleg out there entitled "Billy Preston - In Central Park, New York City 1973" that features Mick Taylor on guitar. He sounds great and this performance sounds as though it was much better rehearsed than the material on Billy's "Live European Tour" album.
I also picked up a 10 and 1/2 inch, 7 and 1/2 IPS master reel tape of Billy's performance at the Rainbow Theater in 1973 that features not only Mick Taylor on guitar, but Mick Jagger also appears on this recording singing "Will The Circle Be Unbroken" with Billy. I have yet to do anything with this tape, although I do plan to transfer it to a more commonly used format (CD, MP3, etc.) soon.
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Winston1111
I also modified my original post a moment ago and made mention that Mick also sings "Shine A Light" on the master tape from Billy's Rainbow show.
The Central Park gig featured Billy on Hammond B3 organ exclusively and is a superb performance. And the audio quality is also a superb as the master was a soundboard from WCBS radio studios in New York who had broadcast the show.
I have just joined this list today, and am backlogged terribly with regard to projects of this nature. And I do not possess the means to transfer the master reel to a friendlier format. I will have to have that transfer made by someone else who has the necessary equipment. But I will get it transferred. Eventually. I promise.
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LieB
Also, if you have any pointers as to where one can find that Central Park bootleg, don't hesitate to tell us.
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Winston1111
I also picked up a 10 and 1/2 inch, 7 and 1/2 IPS master reel tape of Billy's performance at the Rainbow Theater in 1973 that features not only Mick Taylor on guitar, but Mick Jagger also appears on this recording singing "Shine A Light" and "Will The Circle Be Unbroken" (with Billy). I have yet to do anything with this tape, although I do plan to transfer it to a more commonly used format (CD, MP3, etc.) soon.