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Okay, but I like the monochromatic brush of Some Girls, it gives it cohesiveness. It was like a discipline they adhered to. It's so easy to hear from the bonus cuts that even though those songs were recorded around the same time, they didn't fit within the Some Girl's concept. The illusion the Stones created was that the songs were interconnected. This was something they achieved with their earlier albums, and would never really be able to pull off again.
Nope.
Undercover was mediocre 80's schlock and that's where the downhill began...
Nah, there's a good reason that Dirty Work gets a bad rap on iorr ... because its really a bad album.
My God, where do you go for numbers for songs like Gimmee Shelter, JJF, Let it Loose, on and on, dozens and dozens of Stones songs that wipe the floor with any of these except for Memory Motel?
Hot Stuff is a nice riff. I dig it, turn it up when it comes on. It's not in the same conversation with dozens of great Stones songs, classics and unknowns. 10 out of 10??? Are you kidding???
You've lost that loving feeling...and you're out of your head!
A simple mistake you can easily rectify...
Then do it for Stu
I'm afraid this self proclaimed 'god' has gone back to zero...
God #9? Where's #1 when you need him?
Now that is a reasonable and measured decision...after Dirty Work, get some sleep tonight...
you're too rude.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-09-02 17:25 by treaclefingers.
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Re: Black And Blue Underrated
Posted by:
CanYouHearTheMusic
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Date: September 2, 2013 07:46
Love it! In my top 10 but not my top 5. Great groove/funk influenced numbers, but I can *definitely* see why many don't care for this record. At the time I first purchased it, I thought it was easily the worst Stones album I'd ever heard (I initially liked it less than even the mid 80s albums! First bought B&B in '89). It took literally over 10 years to grow on me, but once it did it became a longstanding favorite. A grower for sure! I know I'll get flak for saying this, but I vastly prefer it to Some Girls. Is it more uneven? Yes! Does it have more variety by far than the often monochromatic (and slightly, if only slightly, overrated Some Girls)? Yes.
Re: Black And Blue Underrated
Posted by:
24FPS
()
Date: September 2, 2013 07:53
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CanYouHearTheMusic
Does it have more variety by far than the often monochromatic (and slightly, if only slightly, overrated Some Girls)? Yes.
Okay, but I like the monochromatic brush of Some Girls, it gives it cohesiveness. It was like a discipline they adhered to. It's so easy to hear from the bonus cuts that even though those songs were recorded around the same time, they didn't fit within the Some Girl's concept. The illusion the Stones created was that the songs were interconnected. This was something they achieved with their earlier albums, and would never really be able to pull off again.
Re: Black And Blue Underrated
Posted by:
Redhotcarpet
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Date: September 2, 2013 09:20
This is an album I love. I tried so hard to find it back in the LP-days. I simply love it. It's not their best album but the one I love the most.
Re: Black And Blue Underrated
Posted by:
seitan
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Date: September 2, 2013 10:43
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His MajestyQuote
sonomastone
mediocre 70s schlock. proved that IORR was not an aberration and that the band was going downhill fast.
Yup.
Nope.
Undercover was mediocre 80's schlock and that's where the downhill began...
Re: Black And Blue Underrated
Posted by:
Glammy
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Date: September 2, 2013 11:29
The conver artwork is great. The music on it not so much.
Re: Black And Blue Underrated
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
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Date: September 2, 2013 11:43
<Does it have more variety by far than the often monochromatic (and slightly, if only slightly, overrated Some Girls)? Yes.>
Black And Blue is a great album, with a good collection of different songs WITHIN a context: Black music.
Some Girls is also a great album, with a remarkable collection of different songs WITHIN a context: New York.
Monochromatic?
Pop, funk/disco, country, blues, pop rock, rock'n'roll, new wave. How much more diverse can it actually get?...
Black And Blue is a great album, with a good collection of different songs WITHIN a context: Black music.
Some Girls is also a great album, with a remarkable collection of different songs WITHIN a context: New York.
Monochromatic?
Pop, funk/disco, country, blues, pop rock, rock'n'roll, new wave. How much more diverse can it actually get?...
Re: Black And Blue Underrated
Posted by:
Silver Dagger
()
Date: September 2, 2013 11:44
It's a fantastic album and possibly their best sounding one of the 70s sonically speaking, or at least up there with Sticky Fingers.
I have only great memories of listening to it in that hot summer of 76....staying out late, getting blasted with groovy chicks, seeing the Stones 6 times and having that album as the soundtrack as the summer months gave way to punk.
Here's my rating.
Hot Stuff - 10/10
Hand of Fate - 10/10
Cherry Oh Baby 8/10
Memory Motel - 10/10
Hey Negrita - 9/10
Melody 8/10
Fool To Cry - 8/10
Crazy Mama - 9/10
And yep, I don't mind Cherry Oh Baby. It's loose, sloppy and makes you want to sing along with it.
I have only great memories of listening to it in that hot summer of 76....staying out late, getting blasted with groovy chicks, seeing the Stones 6 times and having that album as the soundtrack as the summer months gave way to punk.
Here's my rating.
Hot Stuff - 10/10
Hand of Fate - 10/10
Cherry Oh Baby 8/10
Memory Motel - 10/10
Hey Negrita - 9/10
Melody 8/10
Fool To Cry - 8/10
Crazy Mama - 9/10
And yep, I don't mind Cherry Oh Baby. It's loose, sloppy and makes you want to sing along with it.
Re: Black And Blue Underrated
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
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Date: September 2, 2013 11:48
<And yep, I don't mind Cherry Oh Baby. It's loose, sloppy and makes you want to sing along with it.>
Re: Black And Blue Underrated
Posted by:
liddas
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Date: September 2, 2013 12:13
Black and Blues is a 10/10 on my book.
One of the first Stones records I bought on CD (I can remember the American print with the red title on the spine).
Just can't get enough of it.
C
One of the first Stones records I bought on CD (I can remember the American print with the red title on the spine).
Just can't get enough of it.
C
Re: Black And Blue Underrated
Posted by:
gibsonman
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Date: September 2, 2013 13:31
This was for a long time my worst Stonesalbum. But it has grown on me. I guess my musictaste is developing and I always search for new things in the music I listen to. As an example: the guitarsound on Hand of fate is fantastic. And Hot Stuff really has a good groove with nice guitar-riffs.This was something I didn`t hear when I first bought the album, but when listening to it now I really enjoy it. I think it first stood out as such a different Stonesalbum to me that I didn`t like it. And maybe it was because it doesn`t have a really strong hitsong on it, but the album as a whole is strong with good sound.
So what is the worst/ best Stones album imo? I don`t know. They`re all from different eras with different sound and qualities....
So what is the worst/ best Stones album imo? I don`t know. They`re all from different eras with different sound and qualities....
Re: Black And Blue Underrated
Posted by:
leatherjacket
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Date: September 2, 2013 14:11
the only underrated album is Dirty Work which is much better than what you usually read on iorr. B&B is for a lot of none Stones fan pretty well known and be loved.
Re: Black And Blue Underrated
Posted by:
LeonidP
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Date: September 2, 2013 14:29
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leatherjacket
the only underrated album is Dirty Work which is much better than what you usually read on iorr...
Nah, there's a good reason that Dirty Work gets a bad rap on iorr ... because its really a bad album.
Re: Black And Blue Underrated
Posted by:
noughties
()
Date: September 2, 2013 15:54
"Black And Blue Underrated"
- Here we go again...
- Here we go again...
Re: Black And Blue Underrated
Posted by:
Rokyfan
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Date: September 2, 2013 16:14
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Silver Dagger
It's a fantastic album and possibly their best sounding one of the 70s sonically speaking, or at least up there with Sticky Fingers.
I have only great memories of listening to it in that hot summer of 76....staying out late, getting blasted with groovy chicks, seeing the Stones 6 times and having that album as the soundtrack as the summer months gave way to punk.
Here's my rating.
Hot Stuff - 10/10
Hand of Fate - 10/10
Cherry Oh Baby 8/10
Memory Motel - 10/10
Hey Negrita - 9/10
Melody 8/10
Fool To Cry - 8/10
Crazy Mama - 9/10
And yep, I don't mind Cherry Oh Baby. It's loose, sloppy and makes you want to sing along with it.
My God, where do you go for numbers for songs like Gimmee Shelter, JJF, Let it Loose, on and on, dozens and dozens of Stones songs that wipe the floor with any of these except for Memory Motel?
Hot Stuff is a nice riff. I dig it, turn it up when it comes on. It's not in the same conversation with dozens of great Stones songs, classics and unknowns. 10 out of 10??? Are you kidding???
Re: Black And Blue Underrated
Posted by:
His Majesty
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Date: September 2, 2013 16:19
Hot Stuff is awful.
I can remember clearly the first time I played Black and Blue, hearing that first horrible guitar.
Gadz.
I can remember clearly the first time I played Black and Blue, hearing that first horrible guitar.
Gadz.
Re: Black And Blue Underrated
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: September 2, 2013 16:20
Quote
His Majesty
Hot Stuff isawfull of good stuff.
I can remember clearly the first time I played Black and Blue, hearing that first horrible guitar.
Gadz.
Re: Black And Blue Underrated
Posted by:
Munichhilton
()
Date: September 2, 2013 16:21
Quote
His Majesty
Hot Stuff is awful.
I can remember clearly the first time I played Black and Blue, hearing that first horrible guitar.
Gadz.
You've lost that loving feeling...and you're out of your head!
Re: Black And Blue Underrated
Posted by:
Godxofxrock9
()
Date: September 2, 2013 16:22
Dirty work is so awful i have not listened to it for 27 yearsQuote
leatherjacket
the only underrated album is Dirty Work which is much better than what you usually read on iorr. B&B is for a lot of none Stones fan pretty well known and be loved.
Re: Black And Blue Underrated
Posted by:
Munichhilton
()
Date: September 2, 2013 16:24
Quote
Godxofxrock9Dirty work is so awful i have not listened to it for 27 yearsQuote
leatherjacket
the only underrated album is Dirty Work which is much better than what you usually read on iorr. B&B is for a lot of none Stones fan pretty well known and be loved.
A simple mistake you can easily rectify...
Re: Black And Blue Underrated
Posted by:
Godxofxrock9
()
Date: September 2, 2013 16:28
I'm not rectifying anything for Jagger/Richards/LeavellQuote
MunichhiltonQuote
Godxofxrock9Dirty work is so awful i have not listened to it for 27 yearsQuote
leatherjacket
the only underrated album is Dirty Work which is much better than what you usually read on iorr. B&B is for a lot of none Stones fan pretty well known and be loved.
A simple mistake you can easily rectify...
Re: Black And Blue Underrated
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: September 2, 2013 16:30
Quote
Godxofxrock9I'm not rectifying anything for Jagger/Richards/LeavellQuote
MunichhiltonQuote
Godxofxrock9Dirty work is so awful i have not listened to it for 27 yearsQuote
leatherjacket
the only underrated album is Dirty Work which is much better than what you usually read on iorr. B&B is for a lot of none Stones fan pretty well known and be loved.
A simple mistake you can easily rectify...
Then do it for Stu
Re: Black And Blue Underrated
Posted by:
Munichhilton
()
Date: September 2, 2013 16:31
Quote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
Godxofxrock9I'm not rectifying anything for Jagger/Richards/LeavellQuote
MunichhiltonQuote
Godxofxrock9Dirty work is so awful i have not listened to it for 27 yearsQuote
leatherjacket
the only underrated album is Dirty Work which is much better than what you usually read on iorr. B&B is for a lot of none Stones fan pretty well known and be loved.
A simple mistake you can easily rectify...
Then do it for Stu
I'm afraid this self proclaimed 'god' has gone back to zero...
Re: Black And Blue Underrated
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: September 2, 2013 16:35
Quote
MunichhiltonQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
Godxofxrock9I'm not rectifying anything for Jagger/Richards/LeavellQuote
MunichhiltonQuote
Godxofxrock9Dirty work is so awful i have not listened to it for 27 yearsQuote
leatherjacket
the only underrated album is Dirty Work which is much better than what you usually read on iorr. B&B is for a lot of none Stones fan pretty well known and be loved.
A simple mistake you can easily rectify...
Then do it for Stu
I'm afraid this self proclaimed 'god' has gone back to zero...
God #9? Where's #1 when you need him?
Re: Black And Blue Underrated
Posted by:
Godxofxrock9
()
Date: September 2, 2013 16:46
I well be listening to dirty work today thenQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
MunichhiltonQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
Godxofxrock9I'm not rectifying anything for Jagger/Richards/LeavellQuote
MunichhiltonQuote
Godxofxrock9Dirty work is so awful i have not listened to it for 27 yearsQuote
leatherjacket
the only underrated album is Dirty Work which is much better than what you usually read on iorr. B&B is for a lot of none Stones fan pretty well known and be loved.
A simple mistake you can easily rectify...
Then do it for Stu
I'm afraid this self proclaimed 'god' has gone back to zero...
God #9? Where's #1 when you need him?
Re: Black And Blue Underrated
Posted by:
Munichhilton
()
Date: September 2, 2013 17:21
Quote
Godxofxrock9I well be listening to dirty work today thenQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
MunichhiltonQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
Godxofxrock9I'm not rectifying anything for Jagger/Richards/LeavellQuote
MunichhiltonQuote
Godxofxrock9Dirty work is so awful i have not listened to it for 27 yearsQuote
leatherjacket
the only underrated album is Dirty Work which is much better than what you usually read on iorr. B&B is for a lot of none Stones fan pretty well known and be loved.
A simple mistake you can easily rectify...
Then do it for Stu
I'm afraid this self proclaimed 'god' has gone back to zero...
God #9? Where's #1 when you need him?
Now that is a reasonable and measured decision...after Dirty Work, get some sleep tonight...
Re: Black And Blue Underrated
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: September 2, 2013 17:25
Quote
MunichhiltonQuote
Godxofxrock9I well be listening to dirty work today thenQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
MunichhiltonQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
Godxofxrock9I'm not rectifying anything for Jagger/Richards/LeavellQuote
MunichhiltonQuote
Godxofxrock9Dirty work is so awful i have not listened to it for 27 yearsQuote
leatherjacket
the only underrated album is Dirty Work which is much better than what you usually read on iorr. B&B is for a lot of none Stones fan pretty well known and be loved.
A simple mistake you can easily rectify...
Then do it for Stu
I'm afraid this self proclaimed 'god' has gone back to zero...
God #9? Where's #1 when you need him?
Now that is a reasonable and measured decision...after Dirty Work, get some sleep tonight...
you're too rude.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-09-02 17:25 by treaclefingers.
Re: Black And Blue Underrated
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: September 2, 2013 18:46
We won this rather ugly...
Re: Black And Blue Underrated
Posted by:
Silver Dagger
()
Date: September 2, 2013 19:09
Quote
His Majesty
Hot Stuff is awful.
I can remember clearly the first time I played Black and Blue, hearing that first horrible guitar.
Gadz.
You don't like the funk?
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