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money is the primary motivating factor. i will no accept any dissent on this point.

Sorry, I am dissenting here. I don't buy that. Mick has more than enough money for his babies. I still think it's the music. They love the music. When they play with very good musicians like Buddy Guy or people like that- you can see the joy in their faces. To be an artist is everything. It transcends money.

All rich men like keeping score and like the stated and unstated bragging rights your increasing millions bring. Billionaires keep score. Men who own ten private jets keep score against the men who only own eight.

Mick Jagger walks into a room and people whisper -- "There he goes and have you heard he is worth $320 million after racking up $10 million more in his 2013 tour?" Then the one armed drummer for Def Leppard (worth $50 mil) walks in and is ignored

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How many people here have actually met and hung out with Mick and Keith long enough to actually decipher the nature of their relationship or are your conclusions based on their on stage demeanor? If it's the latter, you are talking out of your ass.

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How many people here have actually met and hung out with Mick and Keith long enough to actually decipher the nature of their relationship or are your conclusions based on their on stage demeanor? If it's the latter, you are talking out of your ass.

Well it's a bit short-sighted to say: Since we aren't close to them --> We cannot draw a conclusion on their relationship.

On-stage interaction + books + Mick/Keith interviews + Interviews with others in the RS fam + journalist articles = enough data to form a reasonable hypothesis.

To an extant I agree that the only people on earth who understand the true nature of the relationship are Mick and Keith themselves.

But also think there is enough info out there to start a conversation....

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How many people here have actually met and hung out with Mick and Keith long enough to actually decipher the nature of their relationship or are your conclusions based on their on stage demeanor? If it's the latter, you are talking out of your ass.

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Both Mick and "Mick". I have seen interviews and I thought he was in and out of the "Mick" thing. Just like in the early days he still had his "posh" accent.

In Keith's case I think you get the performer. I think it's his insecurity after being shy. After watching interviews, he looks just like "Keith" to me. Maybe only family and friends see the real guy.

What do you think Gumboot? what's you take on that?

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Mick had the nerve to interrupt Keith's erratic guitar solo in Sympathy the other night...in the video you can actually see Keith turn back towards Mick with a "What are you doing?" look...now that is fantastic!


Mick and His Stones

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Mick had the nerve to interrupt Keith's erratic guitar solo in Sympathy the other night...in the video you can actually see Keith turn back towards Mick with a "What are you doing?" look...now that is fantastic!


Mick and His Stones

How about a link to the video???

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How many people here have actually met and hung out with Mick and Keith long enough to actually decipher the nature of their relationship or are your conclusions based on their on stage demeanor? If it's the latter, you are talking out of your ass.

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How many people here have actually met and hung out with Mick and Keith long enough to actually decipher the nature of their relationship or are your conclusions based on their on stage demeanor? If it's the latter, you are talking out of your ass.

They like each other.. They prefer to split the workload and can speak for each other... It was very obvious they'd consult in private first and then carry out the decisions with enthusiasm as partners. Kind of like the Godfather where the family sticks together.. People all thought they hated one another back in the 80's but it was not true and I guarantee it isn't now. My friend recorded their demos and it was remarkable, between Mick and Keith they could play all the instruments including drums well enough to sound like a Stones record. They would be embarrassed if fans knew what good friends they really are so they stay professional and try to keep one another on mark.. They are both great guys as well as Ronnie. Charlie I never met. They are much softer and hippie like than you might expect, very gentle people...

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they hate each other. it's been proven in test labs time and time again.

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They like each other.. They prefer to split the workload and can speak for each other... It was very obvious they'd consult in private first and then carry out the decisions with enthusiasm as partners. Kind of like the Godfather where the family sticks together.. People all thought they hated one another back in the 80's but it was not true and I guarantee it isn't now. My friend recorded their demos and it was remarkable, between Mick and Keith they could play all the instruments including drums well enough to sound like a Stones record. They would be embarrassed if fans knew what good friends they really are so they stay professional and try to keep one another on mark.. They are both great guys as well as Ronnie. Charlie I never met. They are much softer and hippie like than you might expect, very gentle people...

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That article is from early last year, and at the end of it quotes an unnamed source who claims a tour will never happen because of the rift between Mick & Keith.

So 2013 proved that wrong, and thus the whole hypothesis of the article is wrong.

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not until the last minute and not without a profuse apology from Keith--which he now brags that he lied about.

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not until the last minute and not without a profuse apology from Keith--which he now brags that he lied about.

it ain't bragging if its true...

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not until the last minute and not without a profuse apology from Keith--which he now brags that he lied about.

it ain't bragging if its true...

I just can't buy into the idea that it 'almost didn't happen.' I think there's way too much money at stake...although maybe I'm too cynical to believe any rift would stand between making a lot of money.

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not until the last minute and not without a profuse apology from Keith--which he now brags that he lied about.

it ain't bragging if its true...

I just can't buy into the idea that it 'almost didn't happen.' I think there's way too much money at stake...although maybe I'm too cynical to believe any rift would stand between making a lot of money.

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Charlie was saying how the 2012 shows almost didn't happen, adding that this "would have been alright with me, to be honest".