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Could you enlighten me about that "studio incident", sorry but now I must reveal my lack of knowledge about this, thanks!
"You're great on stage, but no good in the studio".
- Keith
One of about a thousand foolish things Keith Richards has said.
it's basically the same thing as saying that his strength is in improvisation, do you not agree with that?
studio greatness on 3 minute rock and roll does not require great improvision. live work, on the other hand, begs for it.
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GravityBoy
Mick Taylor is firmly enthroned in the pantheon of greatest rock guitarists who ever walked this earth.
69 to 74 is mindblowing.
What a waste after that.
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The list is long and outside of stones/taylorites he's not very highly placed.
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The list is long and outside of stones/taylorites he's not very highly placed.
I think they can treat cloth ears on the NHS.
Not sure.
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DandelionPowderman
Didn't Taylor's wife say something about Jagger playing mind games with Taylor, and that this was hard for him to deal with?
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Of course Taylor was good in the studio. Who takes that comment literally? It was probably just an annoyed Keith-saying in affect, picked up by Nick Kent.
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Could you enlighten me about that "studio incident", sorry but now I must reveal my lack of knowledge about this, thanks!
"You're great on stage, but no good in the studio".
- Keith
One of about a thousand foolish things Keith Richards has said.
it's basically the same thing as saying that his strength is in improvisation, do you not agree with that?
studio greatness on 3 minute rock and roll does not require great improvision. live work, on the other hand, begs for it.
The studio work is there for anyone who has ears to listen. The idea that Taylor was not good in the studio would seem to be disproved by the actual results of the studio tracks he was on, wouldn't it? Including ones that Keith isn't on at all.
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In their book that came out 10 or so years ago, they touch on what I'm guessing Keith is talking about. Charlie talks how MT often layed his best stuff down in the first couple takes, then got bored if he had to repeat himself. Keith will play garbage for 40 takes before finding his perfect one.
As far as any of the Stones getting upset at Taylor's playing live, how upset could they have been if they allowed it to go on for a whole mess of shows in 72 and 73? Well, we didn't like it throughout the American Tour, but we'll get back to you about it after Europe in 73. It's just nonsense by people looking to prove their personal opinions.
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In their book that came out 10 or so years ago, they touch on what I'm guessing Keith is talking about. Charlie talks how MT often layed his best stuff down in the first couple takes, then got bored if he had to repeat himself. Keith will play garbage for 40 takes before finding his perfect one.
As far as any of the Stones getting upset at Taylor's playing live, how upset could they have been if they allowed it to go on for a whole mess of shows in 72 and 73? Well, we didn't like it throughout the American Tour, but we'll get back to you about it after Europe in 73. It's just nonsense by people looking to prove their personal opinions.
Bands go on for years carrying personal beef with other members. If Keith's book is anything to go by they sometimes carry it for decades without any face to face resolution.
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Especially one comment beneath the story is interesting, Mick Taylor was playing lead all the time and Keith got angry...
Unless that guy can lip read who can say what Keith was saying and to whom. He was looking over in the direction of MicK T and Bobby Keys. He could have been saying "Stop snorting my coke" "Stop it Bobby"
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Especially one comment beneath the story is interesting, Mick Taylor was playing lead all the time and Keith got angry...
Unless that guy can lip read who can say what Keith was saying and to whom. He was looking over in the direction of MicK T and Bobby Keys. He could have been saying "Stop snorting my coke" "Stop it Bobby"
It's at around 3.10 - it does look like "stop playing" but he doesn't look particularly angry to me.
yes at that particular moment.. in a world where everyone is so elegantly wasted many things happen from bitching on stage to waking up next to one another naked.. Mathijs this point is tired and not relevant considering their unquestionable, admitted success with MT.Quote
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rollingon
Especially one comment beneath the story is interesting, Mick Taylor was playing lead all the time and Keith got angry...
Unless that guy can lip read who can say what Keith was saying and to whom. He was looking over in the direction of MicK T and Bobby Keys. He could have been saying "Stop snorting my coke" "Stop it Bobby"
Richards says something like 'stop fuvcking around', in respond to Taylor's lead lines that are a bit too jazzy or fusion for his likings. At the exact spot during Ft Worth, 2nd gig, Jagger tells to taylor 'don't play too much'.
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Oh Christ, to be a perfect member of the Rolling Stones. Did anyone ever tell Keith "don't nod out so much" or "don't show up for the gig two hours late so much"? Doubtful. Taylor was always the New Boy, and Richards increasingly used him as a scapegoat for whatever problems he was experiencing. I believe the real story will never be told about why Taylor left, but perhaps it is as simple as he just got tired of being picked on.
The reason why I point it out is not to bash Taylor. To me it shows that the vision of Jagger and certainly Richards differed greatly from Taylor's vision of how the Stones should sound.
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Could you enlighten me about that "studio incident", sorry but now I must reveal my lack of knowledge about this, thanks!
"You're great on stage, but no good in the studio".
- Keith
One of about a thousand foolish things Keith Richards has said.
it's basically the same thing as saying that his strength is in improvisation, do you not agree with that?
studio greatness on 3 minute rock and roll does not require great improvision. live work, on the other hand, begs for it.
The studio work is there for anyone who has ears to listen. The idea that Taylor was not good in the studio would seem to be disproved by the actual results of the studio tracks he was on, wouldn't it? Including ones that Keith isn't on at all.
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Could you enlighten me about that "studio incident", sorry but now I must reveal my lack of knowledge about this, thanks!
"You're great on stage, but no good in the studio".
- Keith
One of about a thousand foolish things Keith Richards has said.
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rollingon
Especially one comment beneath the story is interesting, Mick Taylor was playing lead all the time and Keith got angry...
Unless that guy can lip read who can say what Keith was saying and to whom. He was looking over in the direction of MicK T and Bobby Keys. He could have been saying "Stop snorting my coke" "Stop it Bobby"
It's at around 3.10 - it does look like "stop playing" but he doesn't look particularly angry to me.
It's called musical direction.
Keith used to do that.
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marianna
Why is Keith Richards vision for the band more valid than Mick Jagger?
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marianna
Mick Jagger didn't seem to have a problem with Mick Taylor. Didn't someone here pull a quote from some years ago where he said Mick J. called Taylor's playing exciting and said he missed having a real lead guitar player in the band? Why is Keith Richards vision for the band more valid than Mick Jagger? Mick J. is a pretty good musician in his own right, including writing some very good songs virtually all by himself, music and words. Since Keith was so zonked out on heroin, somebody had to step up. Taylor may have left because he saw himself as being someone coming between J & R and that it was one more stress that could lead to the possible break up of the Stones.
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marianna
Not every rock band has to play the same simplistic riff over and over, with a really basic guitar solo break played in the same scale. It that's what Keith wanted, why did they ever hire Mick Taylor or even Ron Woods, for that matter? There were many bands in the '60s that were power trios consisting of drums, bass, and one guitar. The Who, Cream, the Small Faces, etc.