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Eleanor Rigby
this site didn't exist before Taylor joined..dont know what u r talking about dandy
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DandelionPowderman
I'm happy now, because everybody on this board seem to love their favourite band again.
It's a bit sad, though, all the negative comments about the band when Mick Taylor is not on stage with them - from some posters...
<They just think differently, have different opinions, and that's it.>
Is that really it, Doxa? I dunno. For me it looks like bashing. There is a huge difference between the posts of someone like Edward Twining, always analytical and to the point, and never falls for the temptation of quick-labeling things or jumping to conclusions with a few examples - and the "Keith can't play anymore"/"Ronnie never contributed anything to the band's sound"/"Mick is just greedy" and "Charlie doesn't swing anymore"-arguments. It's ludicrous! All the band members cleaned the floor for Taylor, and performed at a very high level during CYHMK - and they have worked hard doing that since the tour started.
In the midst of this Taylor love-fest (which I really appreciate btw, and I'm really for the Taylorites finally got what they wanted) - don't forget that it's the Rolling Stones we are talking about here. They always deliver a few awesome performances on every show, even though it's probably hard to keep up the standard we'd like to for 22 numbers.
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kleermaker
Dandy, as a matter of fact most of us are so excited to see The Rolling Stones as a whole with Taylor included. So many great comments about Keith and Jagger and praise for Ronnie and Charlie. It's just that when Taylor joins them there's so much going on, musically and in terms of interaction between ALL band members, that most of us get a strike of enthusiasm, something we reflect from what's happening on stage. It's the ultimate Stones-feeling we're all addicted to. And in this case it's great to be addicted!
I agree totally, and I'm having the same feeling myself
Before Taylor joined, however, there were lots of unworthy (imo) comments...
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kleermaker
Dandy, as a matter of fact most of us are so excited to see The Rolling Stones as a whole with Taylor included. So many great comments about Keith and Jagger and praise for Ronnie and Charlie. It's just that when Taylor joins them there's so much going on, musically and in terms of interaction between ALL band members, that most of us get a strike of enthusiasm, something we reflect from what's happening on stage. It's the ultimate Stones-feeling we're all addicted to. And in this case it's great to be addicted!
I agree totally, and I'm having the same feeling myself
Before Taylor joined, however, there were lots of unworthy (imo) comments...
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71Tele
I see that Johnny One Note is back amongst us.
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I see that Johnny One Note is back amongst us.
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71Tele
I see that Johnny One Note is back amongst us.
I watched Xfire hurricane last night......I had a Ronnie epiphany. I am at peace with the MT/Ronnie thing, but we can discuss later, as to not put a ripple in this still water.
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paulm
For me, seeing and hearing that performance of cyhmn put years of wondering to rest. I always felt a little bitter about how MT was dealt, even though he left the band. Hearing him the other night, even expanding on his virtuosity from years ago, gained through hundreds of gigs playing his uncompensated co-written song in beer halls where for $10 a fan like me could say hello...so much was put to rest for me the other night, 'closure' in psycho-babble...that if he doesn't play another note with the band, I'm good. Anything beyond this is gravy.
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paulm
For me, seeing and hearing that performance of cyhmn put years of wondering to rest. I always felt a little bitter about how MT was dealt, even though he left the band. Hearing him the other night, even expanding on his virtuosity from years ago, gained through hundreds of gigs playing his uncompensated co-written song in beer halls where for $10 a fan like me could say hello...so much was put to rest for me the other night, 'closure' in psycho-babble...that if he doesn't play another note with the band, I'm good. Anything beyond this is gravy.
This!
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kleermaker
Dandy, as a matter of fact most of us are so excited to see The Rolling Stones as a whole with Taylor included. So many great comments about Keith and Jagger and praise for Ronnie and Charlie. It's just that when Taylor joins them there's so much going on, musically and in terms of interaction between ALL band members, that most of us get a strike of enthusiasm, something we reflect from what's happening on stage. It's the ultimate Stones-feeling we're all addicted to. And in this case it's great to be addicted!
I agree totally, and I'm having the same feeling myself
Before Taylor joined, however, there were lots of unworthy (imo) comments...
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DandelionPowderman
The safety net wasn't there before 2002 imo, the tours prior to ghat were too different, as was the musical output. What is the parallell between SW and B2B? Not much.
From Licks and on I agree with you.
However, for me there is a huge difference today in terms of venues, sound and performance. I like that difference. It's more back to basic. More small scale, better singing and songs performed like they were written.
40 years ago the Stones were wilder, but some of the songs were performed T breaknecking speed and with looser arrangements. It's all about taste. I like both, some don't...
PS: POSTED while drunk, but straight from the heart
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I see that Johnny One Note is back amongst us.
I watched Xfire hurricane last night......I had a Ronnie epiphany. I am at peace with the MT/Ronnie thing, but we can discuss later, as to not put a ripple in this still water.
I am at peace too. Who could watch them all having so much fun and not be? Ronnie has played his best in years lately, and it was a joy to hear him and MT "share" the glory on Sway.
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71Tele
I see that Johnny One Note is back amongst us.
I watched Xfire hurricane last night......I had a Ronnie epiphany. I am at peace with the MT/Ronnie thing, but we can discuss later, as to not put a ripple in this still water.
I am at peace too. Who could watch them all having so much fun and not be? Ronnie has played his best in years lately, and it was a joy to hear him and MT "share" the glory on Sway.
That is the model of the 3 guitar attack that will work. Have MT on stage but he takes solos only on some songs. But vary it by show. So one show gets an MT interpretation of BS and Gimme Shelter and the next show its Woods turn....
But don't just segment Taylor into some pre-canned song line up show after show. Vary it up and you will have fans going to multiple shows. AKA the Grateful Dead. But that means Jagger needs to get a bit more free form.
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71Tele
I see that Johnny One Note is back amongst us.
I watched Xfire hurricane last night......I had a Ronnie epiphany. I am at peace with the MT/Ronnie thing, but we can discuss later, as to not put a ripple in this still water.
I am at peace too. Who could watch them all having so much fun and not be? Ronnie has played his best in years lately, and it was a joy to hear him and MT "share" the glory on Sway.
That is the model of the 3 guitar attack that will work. Have MT on stage but he takes solos only on some songs. But vary it by show. So one show gets an MT interpretation of BS and Gimme Shelter and the next show its Woods turn....
But don't just segment Taylor into some pre-canned song line up show after show. Vary it up and you will have fans going to multiple shows. AKA the Grateful Dead. But that means Jagger needs to get a bit more free form.
It also means they would have to rehearse more.
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DandelionPowderman
The safety net wasn't there before 2002 imo, the tours prior to ghat were too different, as was the musical output. What is the parallell between SW and B2B? Not much.
From Licks and on I agree with you.
However, for me there is a huge difference today in terms of venues, sound and performance. I like that difference. It's more back to basic. More small scale, better singing and songs performed like they were written.
40 years ago the Stones were wilder, but some of the songs were performed T breaknecking speed and with looser arrangements. It's all about taste. I like both, some don't...
PS: POSTED while drunk, but straight from the heart
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DandelionPowderman
The safety net wasn't there before 2002 imo, the tours prior to ghat were too different, as was the musical output. What is the parallell between SW and B2B? Not much.
From Licks and on I agree with you.
However, for me there is a huge difference today in terms of venues, sound and performance. I like that difference. It's more back to basic. More small scale, better singing and songs performed like they were written.
40 years ago the Stones were wilder, but some of the songs were performed T breaknecking speed and with looser arrangements. It's all about taste. I like both, some don't...
PS: POSTED while drunk, but straight from the heart