They could also set up several small areas in front of stage, that would be DC/GC, whilst still having Tier3 all around.

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If we are still in this situation come 6th July I can only suggest direct action............if I go at all :

At 8pm the occupants of T1 and T2 climb over the barrier on mass. They can't stop everyone or find us once we have dissipated into the now seriously overcrowded front of stage GA area. F**k EM

Surely our Tier 1 & 2 tickets allow us entry into the Tier 3 part of the park. We aren't forced to keep to our own enclosures at all. If this were not the case, we wouldn't be able to go and see bands on the other stages, which is something I was fully intending to do.

So they would have no right to try and stop us.

I see your point,but I don't think they will provide access directly into the FOS area. You would have to access it from the main arena and end up way back,which again is not what we paid for.


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Might be worth contacting these guys. I think they're the PR people:

[www.ldcommunications.co.uk]

info@ldcommunications.co.uk

They're mentioned in the Independent article.

[www.independent.co.uk]

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A spokesman for LD Communications said: "There is no privileged golden circle. As long as you get there early enough you can get to the front".

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Might be worth contacting these guys. I think they're the PR people:

[www.ldcommunications.co.uk]

info@ldcommunications.co.uk

They're mentioned in the Independent article.

[www.independent.co.uk]

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A spokesman for LD Communications said: "There is no privileged golden circle. As long as you get there early enough you can get to the front".

So if I get there early enough with a Tier 2 ticket, they'll let me in GA?

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Might be worth contacting these guys. I think they're the PR people:

[www.ldcommunications.co.uk]

info@ldcommunications.co.uk

They're mentioned in the Independent article.

[www.independent.co.uk]

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Some PR wonk
A spokesman for LD Communications said: "There is no privileged golden circle. As long as you get there early enough you can get to the front".

So if I get there early enough with a Tier 2 ticket, they'll let me in GA?

You'll find out at 2PM.

And the 3minutes you'll spend explaining the situation to the crew, will ruin your chances of getting to the front.

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A spokesman for LD Communications said: "There is no privileged golden circle. As long as you get there early enough you can get to the front".

...NOBODY here is asking for PRIVILEGES !! We're asking for our money's worth!!

If there's no "privileged golden circle", THEN WHY SELL TICKETS FOR IT !!??


Oh yeah, a PR-guy for sure...

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At 8pm the occupants of T1 and T2 climb over the barrier on mass.

How can you come up with something like that ? What sort of panic you think that might cause ? People might get seriously hurt during that action.

Besides that, it is totally unnecessary. The T1 and T2 tickets are also GA tickets that give access to the rest of the park. No need to jump over fences, you can simply walk into the General Admission area.

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At 8pm the occupants of T1 and T2 climb over the barrier on mass.

How can you come up with something like that ? What sort of panic you think that might cause ? People might get seriously hurt during that action.

Besides that, it is totally unnecessary.The T1 and T2 tickets are also GA tickets that give access to the rest of the park. No need to jump over fences, you can simply walk into the General Admission area.

How do you know that T1 and T2 give access to GA?

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At 8pm the occupants of T1 and T2 climb over the barrier on mass.

How can you come up with something like that ? What sort of panic you think that might cause ? People might get seriously hurt during that action.

Besides that, it is totally unnecessary. The T1 and T2 tickets are also GA tickets that give access to the rest of the park. No need to jump over fences, you can simply walk into the General Admission area.

Oh of course you are correct. The Stones care about my safety. Maybe that's why they are keeping me in a separate pen ? I suppose I'll have to risk been beaten to death with a pool cue .

They have caused this impossible situation. NOT ME.


Still getting us usually older fans (that have kept them earning for the last decade) to fork out the big money and then pulling the rug from under us I think is called........ HAVING THEIR CAKE AND EATING IT.

Well they can f**k off !

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At 8pm the occupants of T1 and T2 climb over the barrier on mass.

How can you come up with something like that ? What sort of panic you think that might cause ? People might get seriously hurt during that action.

Besides that, it is totally unnecessary. The T1 and T2 tickets are also GA tickets that give access to the rest of the park. No need to jump over fences, you can simply walk into the General Admission area.

Agreed. The current layout is dangerous enough as it is.
The GA area is a bottleneck. No escape routes. One of the reasons to have circles in front of stage is to divide crowd pressure from behind to the sides. The organizers of the Roskilde festival learned that lesson in 2000. To put it mildly.

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[aegworldwide.com]

This seems to be the actual offices... may pay them a visit next week.

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How do you know that T1 and T2 give access to GA?

Because they are GA tickets

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They have caused this impossible situation. NOT ME.

And that gives you the right to cause another impossible situation ?

My Dear Lady Anne and I were in Rome at the Bigger Bang show when thousands of fans thought that they had the right to break through the fences and take over the field. I never ever hope to have such an experience again. It was scary as hell, because there was no way to get out of the crowd.

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Is there another email address for AEG other than Rob Hallett's personal one? Might as well send them another letter of complaint.

The RS/AEG/BST have backed themselves into a corner. They have between them (accidentally, I think) made several different promises which cannot all be kept.

1) That some holders of Tier 3 tickets will be able to get to FOS if they put in the necessary effort.

2) That holders of Tier 1 tickets will be directly in front of the stage. This could possibly be squared with (1) by having part of FOS reserved for Tier 1 and the rest for Tier 3.

HOWEVER

3) they have also promised that Tier 2 ticket holders will be NEARER THE STAGE THAN GENERAL ADMISSION. By which any reasonable person would assume "nearer than ALL General Admission" - and this cannot possibly be reconciled with (1).

So they have to decide which group of fans they are going to disappoint. I think they could sort this to most people's satisfaction by reducing the groups to Tier 1 (small circle FOS) and Tier 3 (rest of FOS if you can fight your way there), and offering Tier 2 people the choice to upgrade or downgrade or take a refund, but they would still not have kept all three promises.

It is clear that Tier 1 / Tier 2 people will not be restricted to their area (as nobodyimportant says, they are free to come and go to see other bands around the site - they just have a guaranteed near-ish spot with decent toilets etc. to come back to). So they are free to downgrade themselves informally if that looks like the better option on the day - but it isn't what they were promised or what they paid for.

It's good to see this picked up by the Telegraph, but I think they have missed the heart of the issue. Their article makes Tier 1/2 ticket holders sound (falsely) like snobs who object to Tier 3 people being given the chance to rub shoulders with someone who has paid three times as much. The problem isn't what Tier 3 can get if they take enough trouble. The problem is that the other tiers were falsely promised something that (as things stand at present) they will not get, and no amount of VIP toilets and backstage bars can make up for that.

Good luck to all the protesters, and apologies for my unnecessary and offensive comment earlier. I'm nearly as good at this foot-in-mouth business as Keith.

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The GA area is a bottleneck. No escape routes.

Absolutely. Therefore you won't find me there

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Well that's 2 extra spaces down the front . Lethal suggestion ? Get a f**king grip.

The majority of the crowd will be British. They will stand where they are told, probably in the rain,for triple the price and not dare to complain.

Did you seriously think 5000 people would rebel ?....... I give up .

AEG / STONES / BST ........YOU HAVE WON .



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Has anybody received an answer from Rob/AEG yet after responding to the first "offer"?

I've just had a short tweet from Front Gate tickets telling me they

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Well that's 2 extra spaces down the front . Lethal suggestion ? Get a f**king grip.

The majority of the crowd will be British. They will stand where they are told, probably in the rain,for triple the price and not dare to complain.

Did you seriously think 5000 people would rebel ?....... I give up .

AEG / STONES / BST ........YOU HAVE WON .



sc uk

You seem to miss the point that most crowd crush accidents are not caused by riots or disobedience, but by poor organizing.

Well, according to the above I must be doing the organising !

That funnel effect in GA looks like a potential disaster btw.

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PS I'm only bothering to keep posting because this thread hasn't been made a sticky .

bump !

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How do you know that T1 and T2 give access to GA?

Because they are GA tickets

Yes, but I am asking where it states this...

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Well, according to the above I must be doing the organising !

That funnel effect in GA looks like a potential disaster btw.

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PS I'm only bothering to keep posting because this thread hasn't been made a sticky .

bump !

sc uk

Because it´s bad press.

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How do you know that T1 and T2 give access to GA?

Because they are GA tickets

Yes, but I am asking where it states this...

All Tier 1, 2 and 3 tickets are GA.
Tier 1 and 2 have the extra's

[www.bst-hydepark.com]

The Rolling Stones - 6 July - General Admission
Tier 1 tickets
Tier 2 tickets
Tier 3 tickets

It is also stated in the confirmation e-mail you got when you ordered the tickets.
It will say
GA Tier 1 Pass, GA Tier 2 Pass or GA Tier 3 Pass

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How do you know that T1 and T2 give access to GA?

Because they are GA tickets

Yes, but I am asking where it states this...

All Tier 1, 2 and 3 tickets are GA.
Tier 1 and 2 have the extra's

[www.bst-hydepark.com]

The Rolling Stones - 6 July - General Admission
Tier 1 tickets
Tier 2 tickets
Tier 3 tickets

It is also stated in the confirmation e-mail you got when you ordered the tickets.
It will say
GA Tier 1 Pass, GA Tier 2 Pass or GA Tier 3 Pass

I hope you're right on that.

My confirmation e-mail just says "Tier 2 Standing Ticket".

I think Rolling Hansie is correct on this point. You can wander around all of the site with T1 and T2 tickets and I presume some sort of wristband system. , then go back to your side stage,restricted view "pen" after throwing up in disgust down your flushable toilet.

We are been looked after like we have never known apparently.

sc uk

bump !