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Munichhilton
Silkcut upped a vinyl recording that was the best version available. It was missing some tracks, so you complete it with Plug In Flush Out and you have the best version out there...I'll have to look up the lp silkcut upped in the first place for a name...
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GJV
The 7 cd boxset The Rolling Stones touring party from Dandelion (or was it already Rattle Snake?) You get all the PS recordings plus the other soundboards from 72, like N.Y. and Fort Worth.
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vudicus
I'm interested to know which is the best source for the Philadelphia 1972 soundboard recordings.
I'm looking for the best sounding (lowest gen, preferably raw, untampered) and also the most complete.
Any information, opinions etc. appreciated.
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GJV
The 7 cd boxset The Rolling Stones touring party from Dandelion (or was it already Rattle Snake?) You get all the PS recordings plus the other soundboards from 72, like N.Y. and Fort Worth.
Nice box but lesser quality
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GJV
The 7 cd boxset The Rolling Stones touring party from Dandelion (or was it already Rattle Snake?) You get all the PS recordings plus the other soundboards from 72, like N.Y. and Fort Worth.
Nice box but lesser quality
Not lesser quality: all recordings where collected from the best sources available, like VGP's Plug in Plug Out.
This box to date is still the best option if you want to have everything that is available in the best quality. Of course, you would still need Keep Your Motor Running, VGP 043, and Pittsburgh to have everything.
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GJV
The 7 cd boxset The Rolling Stones touring party from Dandelion (or was it already Rattle Snake?) You get all the PS recordings plus the other soundboards from 72, like N.Y. and Fort Worth.
Nice box but lesser quality
Not lesser quality: all recordings where collected from the best sources available, like VGP's Plug in Plug Out.
This box to date is still the best option if you want to have everything that is available in the best quality. Of course, you would still need Keep Your Motor Running, VGP 043, and Pittsburgh to have everything.
Mathijs
Not sure I can believe that coming from a Charlie Sexton hater...
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GJV
The 7 cd boxset The Rolling Stones touring party from Dandelion (or was it already Rattle Snake?) You get all the PS recordings plus the other soundboards from 72, like N.Y. and Fort Worth.
Nice box but lesser quality
Not lesser quality: all recordings where collected from the best sources available, like VGP's Plug in Plug Out.
This box to date is still the best option if you want to have everything that is available in the best quality. Of course, you would still need Keep Your Motor Running, VGP 043, and Pittsburgh to have everything.
Mathijs
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GJV
The 7 cd boxset The Rolling Stones touring party from Dandelion (or was it already Rattle Snake?) You get all the PS recordings plus the other soundboards from 72, like N.Y. and Fort Worth.
Nice box but lesser quality
Not lesser quality: all recordings where collected from the best sources available, like VGP's Plug in Plug Out.
This box to date is still the best option if you want to have everything that is available in the best quality. Of course, you would still need Keep Your Motor Running, VGP 043, and Pittsburgh to have everything.
Mathijs
What's on Keep Your Motor Running that isn't on the 7-disc Rattlesnake box (which I have)?
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Rolling Hansie
I would go for both 2CD's Philadelphia Special 1 and 2 from Swingin' Pig, published 1980.
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I would go for both 2CD's Philadelphia Special 1 and 2 from Swingin' Pig, published 1980.
I wouldn't (and I own both). These boots are very old therefore dated for sure. Plus they used the "No Noise" cleaning sofware in excess (no highs muddy sound just like on their "Welcome To NY" cd.
Lastly you're not sure the music on the TSP titles runs at the right speed so I'd go with a "recent" VGP release or a vinyl rip.
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alimente
For Philadelphia 1972 I recall that these were the best sources:
POST : SB ; Philadelphia 07-21-1972 1st Show FLAC-ZIP Files
[www.iorr.org]
POST : SB ; Philadelphia 07-21-1972 2nd Show FLAC-ZIP Files
[www.iorr.org]
Those were uploaded by the great UrbanSteel in 2007 already, received little attention at the time, but when I had the time to compare these to various boots (and my collection of Philadelphia 1972 tour recordings is huge!) I came to the conclusion that UrbanSteel's uploads were not dubbed from boots, but from original, UNDOCTORED tapes with a great, warm analog sound quality.
Unfortunately, I lost his uploads in a harddrive crash and was unable to find them anywhere since then. Of course, his original upload links are no longer available.
So if anybody still has UrbanSteel's uploads anywhee, I would be extremely grateful if they could be uploaded again - for the benefit of all of us who are desperately looking for the best available sources of the Philadelphia 1972 shows.
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riffcliche69
Alimente, it is indeed possible that Urban Steel had access to a very low generation analogue dub of these recordings,which I first heard about during summer '75. Back then I was heavily into recording live concerts and trading tapes with other collectors. (I almost met Mike Millard, but that's something for another post). Anyway, among the constellation revolving around The Stones were one or two solvent individuals who acquired (for $250 each per tape) a selection of previously unreleased Stones recordings, taken directly from the master reels. These three Maxell UD C90s, offered by someone close to Atlantic Records, consisted of two 80 minute recordings of Fort Worth and Philly '72, plus a third 80 minute tape of out takes and backing tracks, including the infamous "Andrew's Blues". I managed to obtain copies off the Maxells. However, they were made on Scotch 206/207 reels, with "backcoating". This type of tape, along with a similar "backcoated" version made by Ampex, was highly susceptible to sticking together. So, now the only surviving copies are ones I gave to friends, which would mean they're a generation higher. However, I do know of one collector who had a copy dubbed on Maxell reels, which possibly survives to this day. In conclusion, Alimente, I am as passionate as you are about acquiring the most natural sounding, lowest generations of these vital Stones recordings. I salute you in your efforts and thank you for posting a topic that has been in the back of my mind for a long time. Dave.
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VideoJames
I recently made a proposal to the "from the vaults series" people and the Stones to release the "lost Live Album" from master tapes I have or from what the Stones may have. I also want to include Stevie Wonder's performance as originally planned. Also to have the planned original cover. I have also offered them very rare concert footage that me and an associate have from the 72 tour from Philadelphia & Pittsburgh with sound that fans have never seen (or has not been circulated as far as I know) to go as a bonus DVD along with a couple other oddities.
I would love feed back about peoples thoughts on this idea and any other ideas of what else should be included in the package. All I can say now is they have the proposal and they are thinking about it.. I am awaiting their reply.
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VideoJames
I would love feed back about peoples thoughts on this idea and any other ideas of what else should be included in the package.