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Re: Stones tour pushed back to 2013
Posted by: marquess ()
Date: April 9, 2012 16:39

I am disappointed.
I was thinking of traveling to London on July 12th for some special event..

:-(

I am pretty convinced that there will be nothing done.

Re: Stones tour pushed back to 2013
Posted by: proudmary ()
Date: April 9, 2012 17:56

Another article with Ronnie, this time from New York (where his art exhibit opens today)

A quote about The Rolling Stones:
"Charlie actually joined in ’63 so it’s kind of a two-year stretch for the 50-year celebration,” Wood reasons. “And we do have lots of projects like a film celebrating the 50 years, a couple of books.

But we’re not sure right now about anything going forward,” he says. “We are just in the meeting up stage and enjoying getting together again really"
[www.nydailynews.com]



PM
As expected, all these Richards' stories about them gathering all together in the studio in April - is his usual bs. So, all we will get a 50 anniversary are a documentary and a coffee book.
Who could have imagined it all in May 2010 when Exile reissue became number 1 in England and ?2 in the United States and the Stones were almost everywhere.
I am sure that these events will be a low profile without much publicity and hype, as was with Some Girls reissue - several interviews with leading newspapers, one - two radio programs, maybe TV special, nothing more



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2012-04-09 18:18 by proudmary.

Re: Stones tour pushed back to 2013
Posted by: andrewt ()
Date: April 9, 2012 18:12

Quote
Gazza
My analysis :

Ronnie looks to be in discomfort as he has been 'caught short' and the door behind him is the Gents toilet.

Maybe it's the f**k-off-you-papparazzi look.

Re: Stones tour pushed back to 2013
Posted by: tomcat2006 ()
Date: April 9, 2012 19:55

Quote
treaclefingers
Quote
Midnight Toker
No new. The worlds largest can of WD 40 can't remove all of the rust from these guys.

Forget a tour and open the vaults.

Wouldn't you have to agree that superdeluxe versions of GYYYO, Exile, Some Girls and the releases of 6 classic concerts as downloads, a new 50th Anniversary documentary and a slew of 50th Anniversary books...all in the last 2-3 years would constitute 'opening the vaults'?

What do they have to do to please you?


+1

Re: Stones tour pushed back to 2013
Posted by: kish_stoned ()
Date: April 9, 2012 21:43

Hey girls and boys,ladies and gentlemen enjoy what we got from the STONES, 5 YEARS OF PLAYING AND 20YEARS HANGING AROUND,we should got use to this by now STONES ARE IN THEIR SEVENTIES if they call it day so be it,i think they will do few concerts around the world,AT THE MOMENT MOST OF THE COUNTRIES ARE IN TROUBLE,PEOPLE HAVE NO JOBS SO WHERE ARE THEY GOING GET THE MONEY FROM TO SEE OUR BELOVED BAND,I HAVE IDEA ROB THE BANKS.I have been a stones fan since 1968 had a good ride so if they call it a day i will be SAD but EVERYTHING comes to end.So be happy keep playing the stones music,ITS ONLY ROCK-ROLL,not the end of the world.
OUT OF CONTROL

Re: Stones tour pushed back to 2013
Posted by: mandrax1972 ()
Date: April 9, 2012 22:36

we have heard nothing of this so-called Jam in London in December. If they were rocking, someone would have leaked something. the silence is deafening.

Re: Stones tour pushed back to 2013
Posted by: sweetcharmedlife ()
Date: April 9, 2012 22:40

Quote
mandrax1972
we have heard nothing of this so-called Jam in London in December. If they were rocking, someone would have leaked something. the silence is deafening.
We've heard a lot about it. Just do a search on here. The silence is non existent.

Re: Stones tour pushed back to 2013
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: April 10, 2012 01:40

Quote
sweetcharmedlife
Quote
mandrax1972
we have heard nothing of this so-called Jam in London in December. If they were rocking, someone would have leaked something. the silence is deafening.
We've heard a lot about it. Just do a search on here. The silence is non existent.

And if that doesn't work, turn your volume on your computer speakers...or click on the megaphone looking thing on the bottom right of your computer.

Re: Stones tour pushed back to 2013
Posted by: Justin ()
Date: April 10, 2012 02:04

You guys will have to speak up...the silence is deafening.

Re: Stones tour pushed back to 2013
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: April 10, 2012 02:09

Quote
Justin
You guys will have to speak up...the silence is deafening.

and you sir, need to change the ink ribbon on your typewriter as I can barely see what you've just typed.

Re: Stones tour pushed back to 2013
Posted by: Justin ()
Date: April 10, 2012 06:41

Better?

Re: Stones tour pushed back to 2013
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: April 10, 2012 07:32

Quote
Justin
Better?

Now you're just being saucy.

Re: Stones tour pushed back to 2013
Posted by: Rolling Hansie ()
Date: April 10, 2012 10:04

Quote
Justin
Better?

Yes, thanks

-------------------
Keep On Rolling smoking smiley

Re: Stones tour pushed back to 2013
Posted by: Justin ()
Date: April 10, 2012 10:35

The silence is deafening...the jokes are blinding. It's too much for me to handle.

Re: Stones tour pushed back to 2013
Posted by: superrevvy ()
Date: April 10, 2012 11:49

I think there exists a way to bridge the gap between the semi-official line
around here (that a Stones tour was "planned" for mid-2012 and now has
simply been postponed til 2013) and the line pushed by me (that no Stones
tour for the 50th has as yet been under serious consideration.)

I think since at least 2009 Jagger has set up a series of hoops that Keith
must jump through in order for Jagger to agree to tour, hoops that Keith has
agreed to. This would not be ususual, since Jagger set up similar hoops
before the Bigger Bang tour and other Vegas-era tours, which Keith also
agreed to. These hoops have to do with Keith's drinking and productivity,
both in the studio and onstage. And what has inevitably happened before
is that Keith has made a half-hearted attempt to live up to his commitments
before the tour paperwork was signed, and basically no attempt whatsoever
once it was signed.

But this time round Jagger is not going anywhere near the paperwork until
at least two things happen, that Keith agreed to long ago: 1) Keith writes a
lot of new material for the Stones, and 2) Keith puts out a Winos/solo album
and successfully tours behind it, thus assuring the moneymen and the media
and the fans that he still has the power and passion for rock and roll, and that
the 50th thing is not just a cash-in.

So in this sense, all the leaked reports around here have been true. There
has been a series of agreements-in-principle to tour, but the continuing problem
is that Keith is just not living up to his end of the bargain. When Keith states
"we're not ready", what he means is, he's not ready. The other three have
made it obvious that they have been ready all along.

From my point of view however (more cynical), Mick (and Charlie) have sensed
all along that Keith is probably never gonna get it together enough on his own
to do a respectable Winos tour, so that these hoops that have been set up
for Keith, and that he is being held accountable for, most probably constitute
the end of the Stones as a touring unit. Especially since the kind of tour
being offered to Keith by Mick keeps getting smaller as Keith misses
deadline after deadline.

If you're an optimist, you can still look for Keith to somehow finally surprise to
the upside, in terms of creativity and performance chops, which would bring
the Stones back to Life. Otherwise, my position is that, if Keith can't or won't
keep his commitments, then it would best for him to retire, because all he's
doing now I think, besides eroding the Stones legacy, is holding up (Rod and
Ronnie and) the Faces as well as SuperHeavy.

P.S. A great commercial move by the Faces would be to have Mick Taylor
join them. That way they would be assured of inheriting a lot more of the
Stones fanbase, and the Faces could them legitimately include a few Stones
songs into their setlists.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2012-04-10 12:13 by superrevvy.

Re: Stones tour pushed back to 2013
Posted by: JumpinJeppeFlash ()
Date: April 10, 2012 11:55

Quote
Gazza
"Backstreet's back - alright!"

HAHA...thumbs up

Re: Stones tour pushed back to 2013
Posted by: rogue ()
Date: April 10, 2012 13:02

Quote
superrevvy
When Keith states
"we're not ready", what he means is, he's not ready. The other three have
made it obvious that they have been ready all along.
From my point of view however (more cynical), Mick (and Charlie) have sensed
all along that Keith is probably never gonna get it together enough on his own
to do a respectable Winos tour, so that these hoops that have been set up
for Keith, and that he is being held accountable for, most probably constitute
the end of the Stones as a touring unit."

a very good set of points about the tour problems and future of the band.

" now I think, besides eroding the Stones legacy, is holding up (Rod and
Ronnie and) the Faces"

which may explain Mick and Ronnie's recent meeting



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-04-10 13:05 by rogue.

Re: Stones tour pushed back to 2013
Posted by: mandrax1972 ()
Date: April 10, 2012 16:31

well done superrevvy....just take a look at the video from the hubert sumlin tribute. Keith can barely play....it's a shame but time waits for no one.

Re: Stones tour pushed back to 2013
Posted by: marquess ()
Date: April 10, 2012 18:05

So?

no Tour, or even not a single celebrating special show...??

:-(

Re: Stones tour pushed back to 2013
Posted by: backstreetboy1 ()
Date: April 10, 2012 18:16

superrevvy,brilliant fiction.

Re: Stones tour pushed back to 2013
Posted by: tkl7 ()
Date: April 10, 2012 18:17

Quote
marquess
So?

no Tour, or even not a single celebrating special show...??

:-(

The only concrete info we have is that a tour will not happen this fall, anything else you hear is speculation.

Re: Stones tour pushed back to 2013
Posted by: superrevvy ()
Date: April 10, 2012 21:15

Quote
marquess
So?

no Tour, or even not a single celebrating special show...??

:-(

see the big poster on the previous page

"from dust thou art, to dust thou shall return"



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-04-10 21:33 by superrevvy.

Re: Stones tour pushed back to 2013
Posted by: SweetThing ()
Date: April 10, 2012 23:34

Quote
superrevvy
I think there exists a way to bridge the gap between the semi-official line
around here (that a Stones tour was "planned" for mid-2012 and now has
simply been postponed til 2013) and the line pushed by me (that no Stones
tour for the 50th has as yet been under serious consideration.)

I think since at least 2009 Jagger has set up a series of hoops that Keith
must jump through in order for Jagger to agree to tour, hoops that Keith has
agreed to. This would not be ususual, since Jagger set up similar hoops
before the Bigger Bang tour and other Vegas-era tours, which Keith also
agreed to. These hoops have to do with Keith's drinking and productivity,
both in the studio and onstage. And what has inevitably happened before
is that Keith has made a half-hearted attempt to live up to his commitments
before the tour paperwork was signed, and basically no attempt whatsoever
once it was signed.

But this time round Jagger is not going anywhere near the paperwork until
at least two things happen, that Keith agreed to long ago: 1) Keith writes a
lot of new material for the Stones, and 2) Keith puts out a Winos/solo album
and successfully tours behind it, thus assuring the moneymen and the media
and the fans that he still has the power and passion for rock and roll, and that
the 50th thing is not just a cash-in.

So in this sense, all the leaked reports around here have been true. There
has been a series of agreements-in-principle to tour, but the continuing problem
is that Keith is just not living up to his end of the bargain. When Keith states
"we're not ready", what he means is, he's not ready. The other three have
made it obvious that they have been ready all along.

From my point of view however (more cynical), Mick (and Charlie) have sensed
all along that Keith is probably never gonna get it together enough on his own
to do a respectable Winos tour, so that these hoops that have been set up
for Keith, and that he is being held accountable for, most probably constitute
the end of the Stones as a touring unit. Especially since the kind of tour
being offered to Keith by Mick keeps getting smaller as Keith misses
deadline after deadline.

If you're an optimist, you can still look for Keith to somehow finally surprise to
the upside, in terms of creativity and performance chops, which would bring
the Stones back to Life. Otherwise, my position is that, if Keith can't or won't
keep his commitments, then it would best for him to retire, because all he's
doing now I think, besides eroding the Stones legacy, is holding up (Rod and
Ronnie and) the Faces as well as SuperHeavy.

P.S. A great commercial move by the Faces would be to have Mick Taylor
join them. That way they would be assured of inheriting a lot more of the
Stones fanbase, and the Faces could them legitimately include a few Stones
songs into their setlists.

So. THIS is how you *do* "history"???

Gotta admit though, it sounds totally plausible.

Re: Stones tour pushed back to 2013
Posted by: rogue ()
Date: April 11, 2012 22:46

I am waiting for the press release that pushes the tour back another year or so to commemorate Satisfaction. Then another few years to mark the release of Honky Tonk, then JJF, then Brown Sugar, then Exile, and so on and so on.

It's all smoke a mirrors for the press while the vaults continue to release gems and promote the image of the past.

Re: Stones tour pushed back to 2013
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: April 12, 2012 01:01

Quote
rogue
I am waiting for the press release that pushes the tour back another year or so to commemorate Satisfaction. Then another few years to mark the release of Honky Tonk, then JJF, then Brown Sugar, then Exile, and so on and so on.

It's all smoke a mirrors for the press while the vaults continue to release gems and promote the image of the past.

Everyone knows the REAL 50th anniversary is 1975, when Ronnie joined. Or was that 1976?

2025 here we come! (or 2026)

Re: Stones tour pushed back to 2013
Posted by: superrevvy ()
Date: April 12, 2012 02:27

Quote
treaclefingers
Quote
rogue
I am waiting for the press release that pushes the tour back another year or so to commemorate Satisfaction. Then another few years to mark the release of Honky Tonk, then JJF, then Brown Sugar, then Exile, and so on and so on.

It's all smoke a mirrors for the press while the vaults continue to release gems and promote the image of the past.

Everyone knows the REAL 50th anniversary is 1975, when Ronnie joined. Or was that 1976?

2025 here we come! (or 2026)

(I wrote the following on another thread, but it really belongs on this one: )

When Mick said last year "I think by the end of 2012 people will be quite
sick of the Rolling Stones", everybody assumed that he meant people would be
sick of the Stones because of how much they would be doing as a group...

But what he actually meant was, people will be sick of the Stones because of
how little they would be doing as a group.

(And with rogue's and treacle's comments above, among many others, you
can see its already happening.)

Re: Stones tour pushed back to 2013
Posted by: stonescrow ()
Date: April 12, 2012 06:20

Quote
superrevvy
Quote
treaclefingers
Quote
rogue
I am waiting for the press release that pushes the tour back another year or so to commemorate Satisfaction. Then another few years to mark the release of Honky Tonk, then JJF, then Brown Sugar, then Exile, and so on and so on.

It's all smoke a mirrors for the press while the vaults continue to release gems and promote the image of the past.

Everyone knows the REAL 50th anniversary is 1975, when Ronnie joined. Or was that 1976?

2025 here we come! (or 2026)

(I wrote the following on another thread, but it really belongs on this one: )

When Mick said last year "I think by the end of 2012 people will be quite
sick of the Rolling Stones", everybody assumed that he meant people would be
sick of the Stones because of how much they would be doing as a group...

But what he actually meant was, people will be sick of the Stones because of
how little they would be doing as a group.

(And with rogue's and treacle's comments above, among many others, you
can see its already happening.)

Already happening? Some of these guys have been sick of the Stones dating back to the mid seventies and it is doubtful it will be any different for them even after they release the new album and tour next year. For me, I celebrate every day that they are in the news, the Stones that is.smoking smiley

Re: Stones tour pushed back to 2013
Posted by: Send It To me ()
Date: April 12, 2012 16:29

"Either he's alive or he's dead, or the cops got him or they don't." - reservoir dogs

Re: Stones tour pushed back to 2013
Posted by: rogue ()
Date: April 13, 2012 23:00

But what he actually meant was, people will be sick of the Stones because of
how little they would be doing as a group.

(And with rogue's and treacle's comments above, among many others, you
can see its already happening.)[/quote]

Already happening? Some of these guys have been sick of the Stones dating back to the mid seventies and it is doubtful it will be any different for them even after they release the new album and tour next year. For me, I celebrate every day that they are in the news, the Stones that is.smoking smiley[/quote]

I am actually sick of the notion that they feel like they have to tour or do something grand for the 50th... Whenever it is according to whatever super secret log they keep.

From the moment I discovered them for myself I have always cherished their music. Not talking at this moment, however, is an antiquated way of dealing with the press. If they are a working band they will have to get with it and say something substantial. Otherwise, I just keep enjoying the vault releases and forget about a tour and make other plans.

By the way, the list of big names on tour this year and those even coming to my midwestern oasis is long and deep. Perhaps that is why the Stones have pushed it back. Next year will have more fans with money in pocket pay high prices. If I went to even half of the list coming through this summer and fall I could not afford a Stones ticket.

Re: Stones tour pushed back to 2013
Posted by: Foggy86 ()
Date: April 14, 2012 20:25

If Keith isn't well enough to play another tour then invite Mick Taylor (Maybe this time the 2 Mick's could write some new material...It happened in the 70's only for Keith's jealousy to allow Taylor little recognition for his contributions). Also invite Bill along and during the break in the show have a tribute to Brian Jones on the big screen...Keith probably won't like that either. After Brian's sad decline and death, Keith became the spanner in the works forcing Mick and the others to keep the band afloat whilst he was shooting up/snorting/whatever. Keith then proceeded to insult his bandmates in his autobiography.........Not a word of thanks to the other guys for putting up with his antics. As the 50th anniversary approaches Keith is now a potential liability for any kind of tour. Come on Keith sort yerself out!!

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