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Re: Dance Little Sister - unexplainable greatness
Date: February 16, 2012 11:38

Is this the most distorted guitar track Taylor ever recorded with the Stones?

And is it the only whammy bar-based solo ever recorded on a Stones track (Ronnie might have snuck in some whammy bar on Whip)?

Re: Dance Little Sister - unexplainable greatness
Posted by: EddieByword ()
Date: February 16, 2012 13:50

They should do this one for about 12-15 minutes as the song before the encore and let the fans up on the stage to dance ala Chuck Berry and Iggy Pop...............

Re: Dance Little Sister - unexplainable greatness
Posted by: alimente ()
Date: February 16, 2012 14:33

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Mathijs
A nice little R&R song, boardering on cliche Stones though. Fantastic guitar sound by Keith. Taylor's part is nice, but I can't help feeling that it sounds a bit tired in a way, like Taylor was bored playing it. On the outtake he plays a lick before the track starts -that lick is a typical technical run through, somehting your fingers play while your watching TV. Every guitarist will recognize that.

Mathijs


I have no doubt that at this stage, Taylor was bored with simple 2 chords-rock'n'roll tunes. Didn't Taylor himsef tell somewhere in an interview that already as late as 1973 he did not feel challenged anymore by the Stones music and felt like he was playing on autopilot on stage, simply running up and down scales? Can't remember where I read this, though! But the essence was that Tayor felt the Stones were limiting his musical development.

Re: Dance Little Sister - unexplainable greatness
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: February 16, 2012 15:01

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DandelionPowderman
Is this the most distorted guitar track Taylor ever recorded with the Stones?

And is it the only whammy bar-based solo ever recorded on a Stones track (Ronnie might have snuck in some whammy bar on Whip)?

Actually, Taylor's tone in the verses is quite clean, not distorted. There's some whammy use on Undercover and Dirty Work as well.

Mathijs

Re: Dance Little Sister - unexplainable greatness
Date: February 16, 2012 15:09

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Mathijs
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DandelionPowderman
Is this the most distorted guitar track Taylor ever recorded with the Stones?

And is it the only whammy bar-based solo ever recorded on a Stones track (Ronnie might have snuck in some whammy bar on Whip)?

Actually, Taylor's tone in the verses is quite clean, not distorted. There's some whammy use on Undercover and Dirty Work as well.

Mathijs

Yeah, but it's always quite clean on albums (exceptions: All Down The Line, Winter come to mind now), contrary to his live sound.

The title track on Undercover has whammy bar. Which song on DW, One Hit?

Re: Dance Little Sister - unexplainable greatness
Posted by: stonesdan60 ()
Date: February 16, 2012 16:25

Ronnie uses the whammy bar quite a bit although I can't think of specific solos at the moment but I know I've seen him use the whammy bar on loads of solos at live shows.

Re: Dance Little Sister - unexplainable greatness
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: February 16, 2012 16:41

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Justin
...if someone were to ask me why this song kicks ass--I would have no idea how to explain it.

luckily, it's very unlikely that you'll ever be confronted with such a horrifying conundrum.

Re: Dance Little Sister - unexplainable greatness
Date: February 16, 2012 17:04

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stonesdan60
Ronnie uses the whammy bar quite a bit although I can't think of specific solos at the moment but I know I've seen him use the whammy bar on loads of solos at live shows.

At least on Whip in 1981/82.

Re: Dance Little Sister - unexplainable greatness
Posted by: dadrob ()
Date: February 16, 2012 17:44

tokia strats with floyd rose bridges for Woody on the 81 tour

Re: Dance Little Sister - unexplainable greatness
Posted by: pmk251 ()
Date: February 16, 2012 18:16

There is very little on GHS or IORR that does not sound strained. DLS is a perfect example. How do you explain the dead end riff on If You Can't Rock Me? The albums are neither fun nor sexy. Generally speaking, even Taylor's playing does not save the day. There is some experimentation in there, but much of it feels halfhearted. It was time for a break, but it ended up being the beginning of a long slow death.

Re: Dance Little Sister - unexplainable greatness
Posted by: GravityBoy ()
Date: February 16, 2012 18:21

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pmk251
There is very little on GHS or IORR that does not sound strained.

Quiet a few would disagree with that.

I guess it depends when you got into The Stones.

I love both those albums.

Re: Dance Little Sister - unexplainable greatness
Date: February 16, 2012 18:39

Cool, thanks for posting. It's the unedited version that's a full (rough) mix. It's nice to hear where they made the edits - and that they smartly decided to leave the hand claps out of the final mix.

Re: Dance Little Sister - unexplainable greatness
Posted by: EddieByword ()
Date: February 16, 2012 19:25

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pmk251
There is very little on GHS or IORR that does not sound strained. DLS is a perfect example. How do you explain the dead end riff on If You Can't Rock Me? The albums are neither fun nor sexy. Generally speaking, even Taylor's playing does not save the day. There is some experimentation in there, but much of it feels halfhearted. It was time for a break, but it ended up being the beginning of a long slow death.

You didn't get enough to drink then ? oh well..................

Re: Dance Little Sister - unexplainable greatness
Posted by: jamesfdouglas ()
Date: February 16, 2012 19:36

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pmk251
There is very little on GHS or IORR that does not sound strained.

woah woah woah woah... you're saying what about Goats Head Soup???

[thepowergoats.com]

Re: Dance Little Sister - unexplainable greatness
Posted by: dewlover ()
Date: February 16, 2012 21:06

It was NEVER "just filler" to me...

Re: Dance Little Sister - unexplainable greatness
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: February 16, 2012 21:24

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DandelionPowderman
Is this the most distorted guitar track Taylor ever recorded with the Stones?

And is it the only whammy bar-based solo ever recorded on a Stones track (Ronnie might have snuck in some whammy bar on Whip)?

Keith used whammy bar on either his Epiphone Casino or Gibson les Paul for What A Shame, Down Home Girl and a few other tracks from that time.

Re: Dance Little Sister - unexplainable greatness
Posted by: nomis ()
Date: February 16, 2012 22:11

Yeah, it's a great track, the whole band. It's the sound that orginally hooked me on the Stones. So if it worked for me, there's somthing there. A lot in fact. It's great energy and Taylor's playing is, well, awesome. So is Keith's.

Re: Dance Little Sister - unexplainable greatness
Posted by: Sacke ()
Date: February 16, 2012 23:08

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His Majesty
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DandelionPowderman
Is this the most distorted guitar track Taylor ever recorded with the Stones?

And is it the only whammy bar-based solo ever recorded on a Stones track (Ronnie might have snuck in some whammy bar on Whip)?

Keith used whammy bar on either his Epiphone Casino or Gibson les Paul for What A Shame, Down Home Girl and a few other tracks from that time.

Doesn't sound like a Les Paul to me...what is Taylor using on Dance Little Sister? I really like the guitarparts on this track!

Re: Dance Little Sister - unexplainable greatness
Posted by: GravityBoy ()
Date: February 16, 2012 23:16

Keith's guitar sounds P90(ish).

It's that dirty grind sound.

Was he playing a Gibson Les Paul Junior?

I've suddenly grown very fond of Gibson P90 guitars.

Ronnie was playing one with Macca recently. Ronnie and Keith have used them a lot on tour over the years.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-02-16 23:17 by GravityBoy.

Re: Dance Little Sister - unexplainable greatness
Date: February 16, 2012 23:26

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His Majesty
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DandelionPowderman
Is this the most distorted guitar track Taylor ever recorded with the Stones?

And is it the only whammy bar-based solo ever recorded on a Stones track (Ronnie might have snuck in some whammy bar on Whip)?

Keith used whammy bar on either his Epiphone Casino or Gibson les Paul for What A Shame, Down Home Girl and a few other tracks from that time.

You´re right, but that´s more like a figure or a theme, though. He also used it on the solo on Tie You Up on Undercover, I believe.

Re: Dance Little Sister - unexplainable greatness
Date: February 16, 2012 23:27

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Sacke
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His Majesty
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DandelionPowderman
Is this the most distorted guitar track Taylor ever recorded with the Stones?

And is it the only whammy bar-based solo ever recorded on a Stones track (Ronnie might have snuck in some whammy bar on Whip)?

Keith used whammy bar on either his Epiphone Casino or Gibson les Paul for What A Shame, Down Home Girl and a few other tracks from that time.

Doesn't sound like a Les Paul to me...what is Taylor using on Dance Little Sister? I really like the guitarparts on this track!

That sounds like classic Strat-sound to me.

Re: Dance Little Sister - unexplainable greatness
Posted by: dadrob ()
Date: February 17, 2012 00:14

MT said it was his Strat (somewhere I have that) but it sound rather bigsby to me. Sort of like the LZ song fool in the rain (and that is a Strat so...)

Re: Dance Little Sister - unexplainable greatness
Posted by: Sacke ()
Date: February 17, 2012 13:36

Ok, Strat it is... Mick plays a Strat on Billy Preston's Live In Europe 1973 as well. Fun to hear, 'cause Taylor = Les Paul in my mind.

Re: Dance Little Sister - unexplainable greatness
Date: February 17, 2012 13:39

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Sacke
Ok, Strat it is... Mick plays a Strat on Billy Preston's Live In Europe 1973 as well. Fun to hear, 'cause Taylor = Les Paul in my mind.

I wouldn't be surprised if he played Strat on Time Waits For No One and If You Can't Rock Me either.

Re: Dance Little Sister - unexplainable greatness
Posted by: Redhotcarpet ()
Date: February 17, 2012 14:02

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dewlover
It was NEVER "just filler" to me...

To me its always been the track of the album. The riff, the bass, the drums. The beginning is one of the best in rock. An updated Too Much Monkey Business. A grown up sexy rock n roll riff.

Re: Dance Little Sister - unexplainable greatness
Posted by: GravityBoy ()
Date: February 17, 2012 16:11

Jimmy Page on Keith Richards, interviewed by Wesley Strick in 1977 & reprinted in Jimmy Page Tangents Within A Framework:

"He's so good at what he does. It's a shame his personal life should be so exposed - that it should be allowed to interrupt what he's doing musically. Because he's the facade of what the Stones are doing. People get more into the outrage than the music sometimes which is a great pity. You only have to put on "Dance Little Sister" and you forgive the guy for anything. Keith's always been under the hammer. It's an imposed social karma which is bullshit."

Re: Dance Little Sister - unexplainable greatness
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: February 17, 2012 16:24

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GravityBoy
Keith's guitar sounds P90(ish).

It's that dirty grind sound.

Was he playing a Gibson Les Paul Junior?

I've suddenly grown very fond of Gibson P90 guitars.

Ronnie was playing one with Macca recently. Ronnie and Keith have used them a lot on tour over the years.

I am quite sure Keith uses the neck humbucker of a Tele here. Taylor is on Strat.

Mathijs

Re: Dance Little Sister - unexplainable greatness
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: February 17, 2012 16:25

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DandelionPowderman
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Sacke
Ok, Strat it is... Mick plays a Strat on Billy Preston's Live In Europe 1973 as well. Fun to hear, 'cause Taylor = Les Paul in my mind.

I wouldn't be surprised if he played Strat on Time Waits For No One and If You Can't Rock Me either.

Time Waits absolutely, IYCRM sounds more like a LP to me.

Mathijs

Re: Dance Little Sister - unexplainable greatness
Posted by: GravityBoy ()
Date: February 17, 2012 16:31

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Mathijs
I am quite sure Keith uses the neck humbucker of a Tele here. Taylor is on Strat.

Mathijs

How do you know, I'm doubting just curious.

The guitar sounds gritty and grainy to me like a P90 but what do I know, Keith can make them all sound the same anyway.

Re: Dance Little Sister - unexplainable greatness
Date: February 17, 2012 16:35

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Mathijs
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DandelionPowderman
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Sacke
Ok, Strat it is... Mick plays a Strat on Billy Preston's Live In Europe 1973 as well. Fun to hear, 'cause Taylor = Les Paul in my mind.

I wouldn't be surprised if he played Strat on Time Waits For No One and If You Can't Rock Me either.

Time Waits absolutely, IYCRM sounds more like a LP to me.

Mathijs

You may be right, but isn't the sound on the latter a bit thin for being a LP?

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