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liddas
For me, the SAL soundtrack is simply superb. Not one of their best performances, fair enough, but it has lots of soul and it grooves like a bitch. I can easily listen to Ya Ya, Brussells, Texas AND SaL all in a row, and receive from all of them exactly the same satisfaction.
So, at the end of the day, it is only a matter of taste.
Take the guitar sound of SAl (something that has nothing to do with the actual performance), just to make 1 example of how things are so extremely subjective.
The sound of a vintage Gibson through a vintage Twin is what normally thousands of guitarists around the world praise as tonal nirvana.
And, as a matter of fact, if you ask me, I can only confirm that guitar sound can't get any better than what you get on SAL.
Needless to say, many here slaughter even Keith's tone in SAL ...
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That's pretty much where I am too.
I guess I'm easy to please . I don't feel a strong need to criticise this that and other about this or that live show.
Sure, they're not all brilliant performances...But I just love the SOUND of this band.
Always have., Always will. A Big glorious ball of grooving noise.
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Yeah, I guess I have a different take on the whole decline of the band, the Vegas act, and all the other discussions about The Stones recent stuff. It has been written before, but I often think of The Stones like I thought of Muddy, Howlin, Bo... for instance the album Fathers and Sons. The Stones are who they are now, and I still find it interesting, fun, and rewarding to listen to. Frankly, the nadir of live albums for me, was Still Life. Save for Going to a Go Go and Under My Thumb, it is one of the most depressing representations of the band live I can think of. But I digress. No Security, Live Licks, and SAL all have some fine moments, and on a whole are a cool listening experience. Yes, it is different from Brussels, and yes, they sound like a different band. And they are. They are older, and have different ideas about how to present and perform their music. I still find it thrilling. But it isn't always easy too. Of course there are missfires, and times that it seems a bit contrived. And you know what, I press skip.
No Security has some fantastic moments! The much derided YGMR is a wonderful opening. Hard hitting, with a great propulsive drum that gets Ronnie's slide really working. It is rock and roll! A great version of Gimme Shelter, and Flip the Switch. A great modern day rocker with erie backing vocals. Morbid and some fantastic riffs. I don't know, but I guess I hear a really hard ass opening to a live album! Then Memory Motel is butchered by Dave Matthews. Sad. But you know what? I deleted it and put in another version from that tour with just The Stones. But after that travesty the album barrels through some fantastic performances. Then there is Live Licks. First, to get it out of the way. The travesty, the edit of Rocks Off. Yeah, it sucks, but you know what, if you can just get past it, Rocks Off is fantastic. One of the better live versions I have heard. And most of Live Licks gives me that experience. Some very solid versions with loud guitars. Can't You Hear Me Knocking?? Nice. The version of Beast of Burden, That's How Strong My Love is, Worried About You... Whew! Sounds good to me! And a simply stunning, picture perfect Monkey Man.
And then you have Shine a Light. A lot of folks are frustrated that this film wasn't made 30 years ago. But it would have been a different film, this is a film of a band still touring and playing the music they wrote, and love. And what you get is a very beautifully filmed concert of a band that has weathered rafts of shit, personal tragedies, and life in the lime light, and now they are old men that still get a buzz out of getting on that stage and performing. Bum notes? Yeah. So? Doesn't need to ruin the entire gig. Look old? Yeah, because they are, and it is cool. Contrived? Yes, in parts, but you know, it is the show isn't it?
So, I guess it is the old adage, is the glass half empty or is it half full? I am glad to have choices of live albums from a band I love. So lets hope they do some shows soon! And put out another live album.
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I guess I'm easy to please . I don't feel a strong need to criticise this that and other about this or that live show.
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stonesdan60
Wow. Another person sees the greatness of these latter day live albums. I'm listening to SAL right now, pumped up LOUD with headphones and I am baffled how anyone can listen to this and not be rocked. Kudos to those who have not become too jaded to appreciate the latter day Rolling Stones!
That's the way I like to listen to it. Just focus on the guitars waving and you'll get an idea of what makes the Stones music so unique...
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stonesdan60
I'm so tired of people coming on here to slaughter Keith if not the whole band. Sure Keith has had some bad nights and flubs, but he and the Stones had mistakes and flubs happen even in their "prime."
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And I'm so tired of people coming on here to slaughter Keith if not the whole band.
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stonesdan60
And I'm so tired of people coming on here to slaughter Keith if not the whole band.
have you tried geritol?
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liddas
What disturbs me even more than the Rocks off edit is the overdub of a second open G guitar on Knocking.
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liddas
What disturbs me even more than the Rocks off edit is the overdub of a second open G guitar on Knocking.
As you can tell I've not listened to it that much - where is this overdub? Entire song, intro, choruses, etc...?
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liddas
For me, the SAL soundtrack is simply superb. Not one of their best performances, fair enough, but it has lots of soul and it grooves like a bitch. I can easily listen to Ya Ya, Brussells, Texas AND SaL all in a row, and receive from all of them exactly the same satisfaction.
So, at the end of the day, it is only a matter of taste.
Take the guitar sound of SAl (something that has nothing to do with the actual performance), just to make 1 example of how things are so extremely subjective.
The sound of a vintage Gibson through a vintage Twin is what normally thousands of guitarists around the world praise as tonal nirvana.
And, as a matter of fact, if you ask me, I can only confirm that guitar sound can't get any better than what you get on SAL.
Needless to say, many here slaughter even Keith's tone in SAL ...
C
That's pretty much where I am too.
I guess I'm easy to please . I don't feel a strong need to criticise this that and other about this or that live show.
Sure, they're not all brilliant performances...But I just love the SOUND of this band.
Always have., Always will. A Big glorious ball of grooving noise.
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liddas
For me, the SAL soundtrack is simply superb. Not one of their best performances, fair enough, but it has lots of soul and it grooves like a bitch. I can easily listen to Ya Ya, Brussells, Texas AND SaL all in a row, and receive from all of them exactly the same satisfaction....
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Nice to know I'm not the only one....
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MadMax
Some of you fellow IORRians mention Fort Worth 78 Live In Texas.
I can't fathom the fact that the Handsome Girls box got a much better sound than the official version.
It's so annoying! Why is that?? Anybody knows??
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Some of you fellow IORRians mention Fort Worth 78 Live In Texas.
I can't fathom the fact that the Handsome Girls box got a much better sound than the official version.
It's so annoying! Why is that?? Anybody knows??
They sound pretty similar to be. At least the vinyl. Haven't really listened to the Texas-CD.
What's even more disturbing, imo, is that the live album starts out with a snippet of Miss You (from the show!) before that lovely introduction. What were ER thinking?
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liddas
For me, the SAL soundtrack is simply superb. Not one of their best performances, fair enough, but it has lots of soul and it grooves like a bitch. I can easily listen to Ya Ya, Brussells, Texas AND SaL all in a row, and receive from all of them exactly the same satisfaction....
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Nice to know I'm not the only one....
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Erik_Snow
....those 2 albums, Live Licks and Shine A Light are the only 2 Rolling Stones albums I still don't have, nor do I want to hear them
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Hairball
Might have been really good without Jack White...unfortunately he sort of ruined this performance...