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Glam Descendant
>But I don't like just hearing the performance without being there or seeing the footage.
I totally disagree -- I am certain I will play the SG: LIVE IN TX cd more frequently than I will sit down to watch the movie (as much as I love it).
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Edward Twining
I pretty much agree with Doxa. There is really nothing on LIVE LICKS or SHINE A LIGHT that really transcends into anything special over time. Granted LIVE LICKS does seem to have a harder mix than many of the other Stones post GET YER YA YAS OUT! albums, which aids it immeasureably in sounding a little tougher, more rock 'n' roll, so to speak. The guitars seem a little more upfront, and as a whole it seems to have a little more bite than, say, the slicker sounding FLASHPOINT. However, if you really focus on the performances themselves and including Jagger's vocals, the album really does fail to emulate the Stones when they were at their peak. The album is just a better presented representation of the Stones in 2002/2003, than some of the more recent efforts. SHINE A LIGHT, however, really doesn't stand up to any kind of scrutiny, as far as i'm concerned. It really does represent the Stones on autopilot, and limping on, so to speak, with another gig, without much with regards to sounding inspired. Visually it may seem high energy for much of the time, but it is truly the Stones going through the motions, which is a shame, considering the concert's high profile cinematic status. This is, i feel, where the Stones, and especially Jagger, seem completely out of touch with what makes a Stones performance so special. Jagger concentrates on the visual - the high energy physical display - but vocally he's pretty unbearable for much of the time.
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Glam Descendant
>Rocks Off is just a shame and I still am wondering why this horrible edit has not be corrected on re-releases.
How could it be corrected? Charlie @#$%& up and it was edited out.
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liddas
For me, the SAL soundtrack is simply superb. Not one of their best performances, fair enough, but it has lots of soul and it grooves like a bitch. I can easily listen to Ya Ya, Brussells, Texas AND SaL all in a row, and receive from all of them exactly the same satisfaction....
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kowalski
Live Licks is interesting as it offers a lot of rare live versions of classics Stones. First CD is somehow redundant but still has great versions. Really dig the opening tracks flow (Brown Sugar/Street Fighting Man/Paint It Black).
As for Shine A Light I consider it as one of their best live albums. This is the Stones at their best. Playing straightforward rock 'n roll.
First the choice of songs makes it a stand out among other live albums. A lot of Some Girls tracks (Shattered, Far Away Eyes, Some Girls, Just My Imagination), some rarely played songs (She Was Hot, Loving Cup, You Got The Silver, Shine A Light...), a couple of "warhorses" thrown in (Start Me Up, Jumping Jack Flash, Brown Sugar, Sympathy...) and an outstanding cover with Buddy Guy. A very well balanced set list actually.
Then the band plays extremely well and tight. You can feel how everyone's focused on every song. For example the live rendition of She Was Hot is a true masterpiece.
Also it's very well mixed. Every instrument is clearly audible, and particularly guitars. I always find amazing on Sympathy For The Devil the moment when guitars start to play together.
My only complaint about Shine A Light would be the strange addition of "bonus tracks" at the end of disc 2. I don't think it adds much to the album. They should have been released as b-sides on singles. Actually the single disc version (released in US) works maybe better than the 2 discs version.
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liddas
For me, the SAL soundtrack is simply superb. Not one of their best performances, fair enough, but it has lots of soul and it grooves like a bitch. I can easily listen to Ya Ya, Brussells, Texas AND SaL all in a row, and receive from all of them exactly the same satisfaction....
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Nice to know I'm not the only one....
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DandelionPowderman
Live Licks would have been a very interesting release, but the tracks had already been released on Four Flicks (without THE bad edit!). That made it kinda superflous for me.
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stonesdan60
Wow. Another person sees the greatness of these latter day live albums. I'm listening to SAL right now, pumped up LOUD with headphones and I am baffled how anyone can listen to this and not be rocked. Kudos to those who have not become too jaded to appreciate the latter day Rolling Stones!
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Glam Descendant
How could it be corrected? Charlie @#$%& up and it was edited out.
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Glam Descendant
>but the tracks had already been released on Four Flicks
"Everybody Needs Somebody To Love" is unique to LL, *not* the version on FF.
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liddas
For me, the SAL soundtrack is simply superb. Not one of their best performances, fair enough, but it has lots of soul and it grooves like a bitch. I can easily listen to Ya Ya, Brussells, Texas AND SaL all in a row, and receive from all of them exactly the same satisfaction.
So, at the end of the day, it is only a matter of taste.
Take the guitar sound of SAl (something that has nothing to do with the actual performance), just to make 1 example of how things are so extremely subjective.
The sound of a vintage Gibson through a vintage Twin is what normally thousands of guitarists around the world praise as tonal nirvana.
And, as a matter of fact, if you ask me, I can only confirm that guitar sound can't get any better than what you get on SAL.
Needless to say, many here slaughter even Keith's tone in SAL ...
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Glam Descendant
"Everybody Needs Somebody To Love" is unique to LL, *not* the version on FF
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Glam Descendant
>Rocks Off is just a shame and I still am wondering why this horrible edit has not be corrected on re-releases.
How could it be corrected? Charlie @#$%& up and it was edited out.
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Erik_Snow
....those 2 albums, Live Licks and Shine A Light are the only 2 Rolling Stones albums I still don't have, nor do I want to hear them