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jambay
This fact this case has gotten this far is BS.
The judge is obviously bought and paid for. The system is rigged
That guy who supposedly wrote the riff, and supposedly complained on his death bed, had ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD when he was alive to sue back in the day, but he never did. Plus the "supposed stolen" song was never a hit for him of his band... for what ever reason... so why should his greedy heirs get money now?
There should a a statute of limitations of this type of BS lawsuit.
I never much liked Jimmy Page or Plant and I liked them even less after I saw the evidence of all of their "borrowing", but just the same... and I have no dog in this hunt but WTF? with this BS law suit and a judge allowing it?
This is rigged.
Zeppelin had the hit... that other "nobody band" did not.
The guy could have sued at anytime but never did.
What the hell!!!??
Not doing anything, no complaints, no lawsuits, no claims for 40 years??
They are allowed to sit back and let the money pile up AND NOW THEY CAN SUE???
That is BS... even if it was a rip off... that is BS.
I would bet money right now that this is already a done deal. I would bet that rigged judge is going to rule the song was rip off and Page/Plant will have to pay 100 Million++ and eventually the judge will get his cut of the lawsuit money in a paper bag... probably 5-10 Million... and that will be BS.
The pen is mightier than the sword... esp with a crooked justice system.
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jambay
And roller, after reading your article twice I can not figure out where you stand on this.
Jimmy Page has also claimed that the descending lines of the opening of the song were something he heard in “Chim Chim Cher-ee” from the soundtrack of Mary Poppins. Attorney Malofiy has dubbed this the “Mary Poppins defense”. I think Dick Van Dyke should get in on this lawsuit then, but it begs the even bigger question: Jimmy Page was sitting around listening to the soundtrack from Mary Poppins???? Say it ain’t so Jimmy.
DAMN IT!!! Now they are plagiarizing the Chewbacca defense... they have no shame!!
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And roller, after reading your article twice I can not figure out where you stand on this.
Jimmy Page has also claimed that the descending lines of the opening of the song were something he heard in “Chim Chim Cher-ee” from the soundtrack of Mary Poppins. Attorney Malofiy has dubbed this the “Mary Poppins defense”. I think Dick Van Dyke should get in on this lawsuit then, but it begs the even bigger question: Jimmy Page was sitting around listening to the soundtrack from Mary Poppins???? Say it ain’t so Jimmy.
DAMN IT!!! Now they are plagiarizing the Chewbacca defense... they have no shame!!
Then I've done my job as an unbiased journalist! Where do I stand? I think they definitely stole this song, and almost every hit song they had. If you take away the ripoffs, you have Hot Dog and Carouselambra. Are you aware of all the songs they copped? Moby Grape wrote Since I've Been Loving You, Memphis Minnie wrote "Levee". The list is endless.
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jambay
This fact this case has gotten this far is BS.
The judge is obviously bought and paid for. The system is rigged
That guy who supposedly wrote the riff, and supposedly complained on his death bed, had ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD when he was alive to sue back in the day, but he never did. Plus the "supposed stolen" song was never a hit for him of his band... for what ever reason... so why should his greedy heirs get money now?
There should a a statute of limitations of this type of BS lawsuit.
I never much liked Jimmy Page or Plant and I liked them even less after I saw the evidence of all of their "borrowing", but just the same... and I have no dog in this hunt but WTF? with this BS law suit and a judge allowing it?
This is rigged.
Zeppelin had the hit... that other "nobody band" did not.
The guy could have sued at anytime but never did.
What the hell!!!??
Not doing anything, no complaints, no lawsuits, no claims for 40 years??
They are allowed to sit back and let the money pile up AND NOW THEY CAN SUE???
That is BS... even if it was a rip off... that is BS.
I would bet money right now that this is already a done deal. I would bet that rigged judge is going to rule the song was rip off and Page/Plant will have to pay 100 Million++ and eventually the judge will get his cut of the lawsuit money in a paper bag... probably 5-10 Million... and that will be BS.
The pen is mightier than the sword... esp with a crooked justice system.
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jambay
And roller, after reading your article twice I can not figure out where you stand on this.
Jimmy Page has also claimed that the descending lines of the opening of the song were something he heard in “Chim Chim Cher-ee” from the soundtrack of Mary Poppins. Attorney Malofiy has dubbed this the “Mary Poppins defense”. I think Dick Van Dyke should get in on this lawsuit then, but it begs the even bigger question: Jimmy Page was sitting around listening to the soundtrack from Mary Poppins???? Say it ain’t so Jimmy.
DAMN IT!!! Now they are plagiarizing the Chewbacca defense... they have no shame!!
Then I've done my job as an unbiased journalist! Where do I stand? I think they definitely stole this song, and almost every hit song they had. If you take away the ripoffs, you have Hot Dog and Carouselambra. Are you aware of all the songs they copped? Moby Grape wrote Since I've Been Loving You, Memphis Minnie wrote "Levee". The list is endless.
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jambay
This fact this case has gotten this far is BS.
The judge is obviously bought and paid for. The system is rigged
That guy who supposedly wrote the riff, and supposedly complained on his death bed, had ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD when he was alive to sue back in the day, but he never did. Plus the "supposed stolen" song was never a hit for him of his band... for what ever reason... so why should his greedy heirs get money now?
There should a a statute of limitations of this type of BS lawsuit.
I never much liked Jimmy Page or Plant and I liked them even less after I saw the evidence of all of their "borrowing", but just the same... and I have no dog in this hunt but WTF? with this BS law suit and a judge allowing it?
This is rigged.
Zeppelin had the hit... that other "nobody band" did not.
The guy could have sued at anytime but never did.
What the hell!!!??
Not doing anything, no complaints, no lawsuits, no claims for 40 years??
They are allowed to sit back and let the money pile up AND NOW THEY CAN SUE???
That is BS... even if it was a rip off... that is BS.
I would bet money right now that this is already a done deal. I would bet that rigged judge is going to rule the song was rip off and Page/Plant will have to pay 100 Million++ and eventually the judge will get his cut of the lawsuit money in a paper bag... probably 5-10 Million... and that will be BS.
The pen is mightier than the sword... esp with a crooked justice system.
If you know nothing about the American legal system, it's easier just to say so than post this pile of rubbish.
As for me, in my real life I AM an attorney, matter of fact in Los Angeles. This trial is taking place just a couple of miles away from the courthouse when I regularly appear. The circle of lawyers is the area is actually surprisingly small, so we often know each other's business.
Wolfe's estate won't win. The attorney Malofiy is doing a horrible job on direct and as with yesterday's testimony, Page's lawyers only have to start to rise to object to a question and Judge Klausner is already sustaining the objection. Klausner is not letting in quite a lot of what Malofiy wants to introduce. There's not a lot of what Page has said on the stand that his lawyers will have to go back and try and fix on rebuttal.
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However, Wolfe's estate gets to sue because he's put an issue in dispute, namely Page copied Taurus. Allowing this claim to proceed is what the judge had to do.
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I recall hearing that there is a statute of limitations with this suit and that Wolfe's estate can only claim for profits from 2011 onward. I'm not a lawyer or schooled in litigation at all. But I do think that generally speaking, Zep has been shown time and time again to sign their authorship on other people's work.
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jambay
This fact this case has gotten this far is BS.
The judge is obviously bought and paid for. The system is rigged
That guy who supposedly wrote the riff, and supposedly complained on his death bed, had ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD when he was alive to sue back in the day, but he never did. Plus the "supposed stolen" song was never a hit for him of his band... for what ever reason... so why should his greedy heirs get money now?
There should a a statute of limitations of this type of BS lawsuit.
I never much liked Jimmy Page or Plant and I liked them even less after I saw the evidence of all of their "borrowing", but just the same... and I have no dog in this hunt but WTF? with this BS law suit and a judge allowing it?
This is rigged.
Zeppelin had the hit... that other "nobody band" did not.
The guy could have sued at anytime but never did.
What the hell!!!??
Not doing anything, no complaints, no lawsuits, no claims for 40 years??
They are allowed to sit back and let the money pile up AND NOW THEY CAN SUE???
That is BS... even if it was a rip off... that is BS.
I would bet money right now that this is already a done deal. I would bet that rigged judge is going to rule the song was rip off and Page/Plant will have to pay 100 Million++ and eventually the judge will get his cut of the lawsuit money in a paper bag... probably 5-10 Million... and that will be BS.
The pen is mightier than the sword... esp with a crooked justice system.
If you know nothing about the American legal system, it's easier just to say so than post this pile of rubbish.
As for me, in my real life I AM an attorney, matter of fact in Los Angeles. This trial is taking place just a couple of miles away from the courthouse when I regularly appear. The circle of lawyers is the area is actually surprisingly small, so we often know each other's business.
Wolfe's estate won't win. The attorney Malofiy is doing a horrible job on direct and as with yesterday's testimony, Page's lawyers only have to start to rise to object to a question and Judge Klausner is already sustaining the objection. Klausner is not letting in quite a lot of what Malofiy wants to introduce. There's not a lot of what Page has said on the stand that his lawyers will have to go back and try and fix on rebuttal.
es
However, Wolfe's estate gets to sue because he's put an issue in dispute, namely Page copied Taurus. Allowing this claim to proceed is what the judge had to do.
heh, you're a lawyer... that explains a lot about you
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hopkins
I recall hearing that there is a statute of limitations with this suit and that Wolfe's estate can only claim for profits from 2011 onward. I'm not a lawyer or schooled in litigation at all. But I do think that generally speaking, Zep has been shown time and time again to sign their authorship on other people's work.
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jambay
This fact this case has gotten this far is BS.
The judge is obviously bought and paid for. The system is rigged
That guy who supposedly wrote the riff, and supposedly complained on his death bed, had ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD when he was alive to sue back in the day, but he never did. Plus the "supposed stolen" song was never a hit for him of his band... for what ever reason... so why should his greedy heirs get money now?
There should a a statute of limitations of this type of BS lawsuit.
I never much liked Jimmy Page or Plant and I liked them even less after I saw the evidence of all of their "borrowing", but just the same... and I have no dog in this hunt but WTF? with this BS law suit and a judge allowing it?
This is rigged.
Zeppelin had the hit... that other "nobody band" did not.
The guy could have sued at anytime but never did.
What the hell!!!??
Not doing anything, no complaints, no lawsuits, no claims for 40 years??
They are allowed to sit back and let the money pile up AND NOW THEY CAN SUE???
That is BS... even if it was a rip off... that is BS.
I would bet money right now that this is already a done deal. I would bet that rigged judge is going to rule the song was rip off and Page/Plant will have to pay 100 Million++ and eventually the judge will get his cut of the lawsuit money in a paper bag... probably 5-10 Million... and that will be BS.
The pen is mightier than the sword... esp with a crooked justice system.
If you know nothing about the American legal system, it's easier just to say so than post this pile of rubbish.
As for me, in my real life I AM an attorney, matter of fact in Los Angeles. This trial is taking place just a couple of miles away from the courthouse when I regularly appear. The circle of lawyers is the area is actually surprisingly small, so we often know each other's business.
Wolfe's estate won't win. The attorney Malofiy is doing a horrible job on direct and as with yesterday's testimony, Page's lawyers only have to start to rise to object to a question and Judge Klausner is already sustaining the objection. Klausner is not letting in quite a lot of what Malofiy wants to introduce. There's not a lot of what Page has said on the stand that his lawyers will have to go back and try and fix on rebuttal.
es
However, Wolfe's estate gets to sue because he's put an issue in dispute, namely Page copied Taurus. Allowing this claim to proceed is what the judge had to do.
heh, you're a lawyer... that explains a lot about you
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jambay
Nice article roller, but I cant figure out where you stand on this
anyway...
I don't even care if the song was ripped off...
I don't care how the sheet music compares..
There should be a statute of limitations.
If the guy who wrote the song didn't sue... then his heirs sure as hell should not be able to.
They shouldn't be able to sit back for 40 years... let the money pile up and then say gimme gimme gimme
One band had a hit.. the other band did not have a hit...
I might feel different if Randy California was suing... but probably not.
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jambay
This fact this case has gotten this far is BS.
The judge is obviously bought and paid for. The system is rigged
That guy who supposedly wrote the riff, and supposedly complained on his death bed, had ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD when he was alive to sue back in the day, but he never did. Plus the "supposed stolen" song was never a hit for him of his band... for what ever reason... so why should his greedy heirs get money now?
I would bet money right now that this is already a done deal. I would bet that rigged judge is going to rule the song was rip off and Page/Plant will have to pay 100 Million++ and eventually the judge will get his cut of the lawsuit money in a paper bag... probably 5-10 Million... and that will be BS.
The pen is mightier than the sword... esp with a crooked justice system.
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jambay
Nice article roller, but I cant figure out where you stand on this
anyway...
I don't even care if the song was ripped off...
I don't care how the sheet music compares..
There should be a statute of limitations.
If the guy who wrote the song didn't sue... then his heirs sure as hell should not be able to.
They shouldn't be able to sit back for 40 years... let the money pile up and then say gimme gimme gimme
One band had a hit.. the other band did not have a hit...
I might feel different if Randy California was suing... but probably not.
Zeppelin can be sued now because laws have changed.
Why the heck does anyone care how long it took someone to sue anyway? All that matters is if they stole it or not. Why the heck would you think it would be better if they were sued earlier and forced to pay even more money then they would be forced to now?
I will never get the objection that its been too long.
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jambay
This fact this case has gotten this far is BS.
The judge is obviously bought and paid for. The system is rigged
That guy who supposedly wrote the riff, and supposedly complained on his death bed, had ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD when he was alive to sue back in the day, but he never did. Plus the "supposed stolen" song was never a hit for him of his band... for what ever reason... so why should his greedy heirs get money now?
There should a a statute of limitations of this type of BS lawsuit.
I never much liked Jimmy Page or Plant and I liked them even less after I saw the evidence of all of their "borrowing", but just the same... and I have no dog in this hunt but WTF? with this BS law suit and a judge allowing it?
This is rigged.
Zeppelin had the hit... that other "nobody band" did not.
The guy could have sued at anytime but never did.
What the hell!!!??
Not doing anything, no complaints, no lawsuits, no claims for 40 years??
They are allowed to sit back and let the money pile up AND NOW THEY CAN SUE???
That is BS... even if it was a rip off... that is BS.
I would bet money right now that this is already a done deal. I would bet that rigged judge is going to rule the song was rip off and Page/Plant will have to pay 100 Million++ and eventually the judge will get his cut of the lawsuit money in a paper bag... probably 5-10 Million... and that will be BS.
The pen is mightier than the sword... esp with a crooked justice system.
If you know nothing about the American legal system, it's easier just to say so than post this pile of rubbish.
As for me, in my real life I AM an attorney, matter of fact in Los Angeles. This trial is taking place just a couple of miles away from the courthouse when I regularly appear. The circle of lawyers is the area is actually surprisingly small, so we often know each other's business.
Wolfe's estate won't win. The attorney Malofiy is doing a horrible job on direct and as with yesterday's testimony, Page's lawyers only have to start to rise to object to a question and Judge Klausner is already sustaining the objection. Klausner is not letting in quite a lot of what Malofiy wants to introduce. There's not a lot of what Page has said on the stand that his lawyers will have to go back and try and fix on rebuttal.
es
However, Wolfe's estate gets to sue because he's put an issue in dispute, namely Page copied Taurus. Allowing this claim to proceed is what the judge had to do.
heh, you're a lawyer... that explains a lot about you
Yeah, I enforce child support orders against non-custodial parents. Care to try again?
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jambay
This fact this case has gotten this far is BS.
The judge is obviously bought and paid for. The system is rigged
That guy who supposedly wrote the riff, and supposedly complained on his death bed, had ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD when he was alive to sue back in the day, but he never did. Plus the "supposed stolen" song was never a hit for him of his band... for what ever reason... so why should his greedy heirs get money now?
I would bet money right now that this is already a done deal. I would bet that rigged judge is going to rule the song was rip off and Page/Plant will have to pay 100 Million++ and eventually the judge will get his cut of the lawsuit money in a paper bag... probably 5-10 Million... and that will be BS.
The pen is mightier than the sword... esp with a crooked justice system.
We would not get along.
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jambay
This fact this case has gotten this far is BS.
The judge is obviously bought and paid for. The system is rigged
That guy who supposedly wrote the riff, and supposedly complained on his death bed, had ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD when he was alive to sue back in the day, but he never did. Plus the "supposed stolen" song was never a hit for him of his band... for what ever reason... so why should his greedy heirs get money now?
There should a a statute of limitations of this type of BS lawsuit.
I never much liked Jimmy Page or Plant and I liked them even less after I saw the evidence of all of their "borrowing", but just the same... and I have no dog in this hunt but WTF? with this BS law suit and a judge allowing it?
This is rigged.
Zeppelin had the hit... that other "nobody band" did not.
The guy could have sued at anytime but never did.
What the hell!!!??
Not doing anything, no complaints, no lawsuits, no claims for 40 years??
They are allowed to sit back and let the money pile up AND NOW THEY CAN SUE???
That is BS... even if it was a rip off... that is BS.
I would bet money right now that this is already a done deal. I would bet that rigged judge is going to rule the song was rip off and Page/Plant will have to pay 100 Million++ and eventually the judge will get his cut of the lawsuit money in a paper bag... probably 5-10 Million... and that will be BS.
The pen is mightier than the sword... esp with a crooked justice system.
If you know nothing about the American legal system, it's easier just to say so than post this pile of rubbish.
As for me, in my real life I AM an attorney, matter of fact in Los Angeles. This trial is taking place just a couple of miles away from the courthouse when I regularly appear. The circle of lawyers is the area is actually surprisingly small, so we often know each other's business.
Wolfe's estate won't win. The attorney Malofiy is doing a horrible job on direct and as with yesterday's testimony, Page's lawyers only have to start to rise to object to a question and Judge Klausner is already sustaining the objection. Klausner is not letting in quite a lot of what Malofiy wants to introduce. There's not a lot of what Page has said on the stand that his lawyers will have to go back and try and fix on rebuttal.
es
However, Wolfe's estate gets to sue because he's put an issue in dispute, namely Page copied Taurus. Allowing this claim to proceed is what the judge had to do.
heh, you're a lawyer... that explains a lot about you
Yeah, I enforce child support orders against non-custodial parents. Care to try again?
Listen sonny, I could flame war with you, but my time is valuable..
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jambay
If the original song writer did not have an issues with it and did not care to sue, then those were his intentions and the situation is settled. Randy California was man enough to know that although similar, Zep made it a hit and his band did not. and that is that.
But come 40 years later and here comes the money grubbing lawyers wanting to get involved so they can try to get a piece of song writing profits for themselves without so much as ever humming in tune... but that is the way lawyers operate.
It might be legal but it does not make it right.
Shakespeare said it right.
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jambay
If the original song writer did not have an issues with it and did not care to sue, then those were his intentions and the situation is settled. Randy California was man enough to know that although similar, Zep made it a hit and his band did not. and that is that.
But come 40 years later and here comes the money grubbing lawyers wanting to get involved so they can try to get a piece of song writing profits for themselves without so much as ever humming in tune... but that is the way lawyers operate.
It might be legal but it does not make it right.
Shakespeare said it right.
Did they steal it or not? Thats the only question that matters.
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jambay
This fact this case has gotten this far is BS.
The judge is obviously bought and paid for. The system is rigged
That guy who supposedly wrote the riff, and supposedly complained on his death bed, had ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD when he was alive to sue back in the day, but he never did. Plus the "supposed stolen" song was never a hit for him of his band... for what ever reason... so why should his greedy heirs get money now?
There should a a statute of limitations of this type of BS lawsuit.
I never much liked Jimmy Page or Plant and I liked them even less after I saw the evidence of all of their "borrowing", but just the same... and I have no dog in this hunt but WTF? with this BS law suit and a judge allowing it?
This is rigged.
Zeppelin had the hit... that other "nobody band" did not.
The guy could have sued at anytime but never did.
What the hell!!!??
Not doing anything, no complaints, no lawsuits, no claims for 40 years??
They are allowed to sit back and let the money pile up AND NOW THEY CAN SUE???
That is BS... even if it was a rip off... that is BS.
I would bet money right now that this is already a done deal. I would bet that rigged judge is going to rule the song was rip off and Page/Plant will have to pay 100 Million++ and eventually the judge will get his cut of the lawsuit money in a paper bag... probably 5-10 Million... and that will be BS.
The pen is mightier than the sword... esp with a crooked justice system.
If you know nothing about the American legal system, it's easier just to say so than post this pile of rubbish.
As for me, in my real life I AM an attorney, matter of fact in Los Angeles. This trial is taking place just a couple of miles away from the courthouse when I regularly appear. The circle of lawyers is the area is actually surprisingly small, so we often know each other's business.
Wolfe's estate won't win. The attorney Malofiy is doing a horrible job on direct and as with yesterday's testimony, Page's lawyers only have to start to rise to object to a question and Judge Klausner is already sustaining the objection. Klausner is not letting in quite a lot of what Malofiy wants to introduce. There's not a lot of what Page has said on the stand that his lawyers will have to go back and try and fix on rebuttal.
es
However, Wolfe's estate gets to sue because he's put an issue in dispute, namely Page copied Taurus. Allowing this claim to proceed is what the judge had to do.
heh, you're a lawyer... that explains a lot about you
Yeah, I enforce child support orders against non-custodial parents. Care to try again?
Listen sonny, I could flame war with you, but my time is valuable. I actually produce guaranteed results for a living (versus some sleazebag professions where you claim to do your best, but often say "oh well" when you don't produce results). If you want a flame war you are going to have to pay a retainer, upfront.
I will bill this at $600.00 per hour, rounded up at 15 minute increments.
Send a deposit to my Paypal for 2 hours of time and I will schedule some time for you.
Otherwise, move along son.
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Malofiy is a showboater. I was at the courthouse on the first day and Malofiy walked past carrying a briefcase made from a Fender amp. Attention grabber...