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Well Keith, now, has the same honesty about.....about Jagger not being what he once was - as well as having a tiny todger....
Wow...now that must've been quite a band.
What utter uber fan-boy bollocks.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011-03-31 21:21 by Gazza.
I think it was Keith who commented that the Rotterdam stuff was pretty informal, 'sometimes the tapes were rolling, sometimes they werent'....
Of course not. All Stones are God!
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He's just as bad. Can't make it through his albums personally. If I wanted to hear a dude masturbating for an hour I'd rent some shit gay pornography.
Rory Gallagher is god
High ticket prices, where the demand is appropriate, make sure that those who want to see them actually get tickets, since the number of possible shows are limited. Since their primary fan base consists of white older middle class well fed males, a few hundred bucks once or twice in a lifetime is not a big deal. People who ruin themselves by travelling and seeing multiple shows can only blame themselves for their stupidity.
I second that 100%
Yep. As I thought. It's still bollocks. So, theyre actually doing these well-heeled (and apparently very fat) few a favour by pricing the tickets so high, so they dont have to lower themselves to log on to a website to clamber for them with the scum of the earth. What elitist drivel. Isn't rock n roll just wonderful?
Yes, they are doing their fans a favour by making sure that those who really want to see them get their tickets. At some markets that's only possible if they charge very high prices.
That doesn't make sense at all. They're doing the "fans" a favor by charging astronomical prices? How does that work exactly?
I'll split the difference with you and say they both are highly regarded. Using the term GOD to describe mere mortals makes me think about lightning strikes and really hot places...
CBII
like central texas?
I didn't know Central Texas had burning lakes too! Heh, heh, heh...
CBII
That's great but how come he has Earl Hooker's name on his guitar?
Exactly. I regard Chuck and Bob equally in my pantheon, odd that Clapton is the one referred to as "God".
He's borrowed it. Presumably Earl Hooker was on the same TV show. Magic Sam was a fantastic player and to play like that on a borrowed guitar while being filmed gives a hint of just how great he was.
His best studio album is probably West Side Soul. If you fancy something a bit rawer, there's a great bootleg from 1969 of a show at Mandrake's, Oakland, CA, which is HOT (you can find it on Dime). One of the greats who died far too young.
Talk about your favorite band.
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Re: is slowhand really God?
Posted by:
Erik_Snow
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Date: March 31, 2011 18:39
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Big Al
How great it would be if Keith and Ronnie shared the same honesty.
Well Keith, now, has the same honesty about.....about Jagger not being what he once was - as well as having a tiny todger....
Re: is slowhand really God?
Posted by:
Bärs
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Date: March 31, 2011 19:31
I don't think Clapton comes off as a social vegetable in the clip above. He speaks, he makes gestures, he laughs and makes facial expressions. I can't see why he couldn't do that on stage as well. If it's too hard he could at least read that interview from a script about how bad he is nowadays etc.
Re: is slowhand really God?
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stones78
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Date: March 31, 2011 19:41
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StonesTod
alright, i'm outta here in a bit - the answer to the trivia question:
john hammond jr. - 5 shows at the gaslight in new york circa 1966....clapton and hendrix were his featured guitarists. no extant recordings.
Wow...now that must've been quite a band.
Re: is slowhand really God?
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Gazza
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Date: March 31, 2011 21:18
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To connect verbally and socially with the audience is to show it respect.
As opposed to charging them $500 or $1,000 for two hours entertainment where they can often only see the stage via a video screen, you mean? What does that say to you about 'respect' ?
I think your sense of perspective is a bit off here.
Some artists dont 'connect' socially because they feel awkward doing so. Its not a big deal. Some performers can feel shy and uncomfortable once they step out of the comfort zone of singing or playing, believe it ot not.
I can personally live without a musician patronising me with insincere platitudes. Not feeling ripped off is a far more significant factor in being able to come out of a show feeling reasonably satisfied with what I've seen.
Charging $ 1000 is all about respect since they target wealthy people with those tickets. Not bothering to communicate with the audience on the other hand is sheer arrogance, especally when these artistst do bother about getting their hands on the audience's money.
What utter uber fan-boy bollocks.
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Re: is slowhand really God?
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Gazza
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Date: March 31, 2011 21:20
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So do you not think that Rory did turn down the Stones? I heard that he went to the netherlands with the stones to record but had to fly off somewhere for a gig then never heard from them again.
..which is not the same as him 'turning them down'.
He was never offered the job. Thats a fact.
He didnt record with them either. He auditioned, as did several other guitarists.
Do we in fact have any proof of this? Any statement by any of the Stones? Ian Stewart? Anyone who was there at the time? The rehearsals in Rotterdam in '75 are for a very large part recorded and can still be heard on a dozen tapes, and the only guitarist other than Richards that can be heard is Jeff Beck on 6 or so tracks, and he was sighted by people hanging out at The Doelen. Harvey Mandel, Robert Johnson, Wayne Perkins, Mick Ronson, Rory Gallagher, Peter Frampton, Steve Marriot and whomever more are named to have audinioned in Rotterdam, but there are no eyewitnesses, nor can any of these people be heard on the tapes.
We know for sure that Mandel and Perkins recorded with the Stones later on in Munich, as did Wood.
Mathijs
I think it was Keith who commented that the Rotterdam stuff was pretty informal, 'sometimes the tapes were rolling, sometimes they werent'....
Re: is slowhand really God?
Posted by:
carlostones10
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Date: March 31, 2011 23:51
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Is clapton really God? I love clapton as an artist...his work with blinf faith...dominoes and his first solo album are some of my personal favorite music....but what about johnny winter...duane...as blues guitarists? they dont have the body of work...but ive heard other guitarists who have impresssed me more. clapton always seemed limited to me. For instance...taylor incorporated so much more melody in his blues...wheras ec seemed to rely on the standard blues scale.....is there really no one better?
Of course not. All Stones are God!
><Re: is slowhand really God?
Posted by:
Ferret
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Date: April 1, 2011 01:25
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DiscoVolante
Nah, Jeff Beck is God.
He's just as bad. Can't make it through his albums personally. If I wanted to hear a dude masturbating for an hour I'd rent some shit gay pornography.
Re: is slowhand really God?
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Date: April 1, 2011 01:30
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An interviwer asked Jimmy Hendrix " Whats it like being the best guitarist in the world" Jimmy replied "Ask Rory gallagher"
That story is false, the "original" story said Jimi answered "ask Phil Keaggy". From wikipedia:
Years later, a story would circulate widely and persistently concerning Keaggy and Hendrix. It has been said that during an episode of The Tonight Show, Johnny Carson asked Hendrix, "Who is the best guitarist in the world?" Hendrix is said to have answered, "Phil Keaggy." Another version of the story has Hendrix being asked, "Jimi, how does it feel to be the world's greatest guitar player?" To which Hendrix supposedly replied, "I don't know, you'll have to ask Phil Keaggy!" This account is sometimes attributed to a magazine interview in either Rolling Stone or Guitar Player. Occasionally the story has the setting for the question being the Dick Cavett Show. Other versions have the question being posed to Eric Clapton. A more recent variant has Eddie Van Halen being asked the question by either David Letterman or Barbara Walters. Keaggy has long insisted that such stories are completely unfounded, noting that "it was impossible that Jimi Hendrix could ever have heard me...We...recorded our first album at Electric Lady Studios two weeks after his unfortunate death, so I just can’t imagine how he could’ve heard me. I think it’s just a rumor that someone’s kept alive, and it must be titillating enough to keep an interest there...So I don’t think it was said…and that’s it for that!
So where do you think the rory Gallagher story came from?
Probably Rory's brother, if his claim that he 'turned down the Stones' is any yardstick.
Rory Gallagher is god
Re: is slowhand really God?
Posted by:
MKjan
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Date: April 1, 2011 01:36
It's the songs. Lyrics and music recorded by the Stones transcend the boring novelty of false gods endlessly jerking away....their ego's too big to keep a band together for a fitting length of time.
Re: is slowhand really God?
Posted by:
Bärs
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Date: April 1, 2011 10:52
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To connect verbally and socially with the audience is to show it respect.
As opposed to charging them $500 or $1,000 for two hours entertainment where they can often only see the stage via a video screen, you mean? What does that say to you about 'respect' ?
I think your sense of perspective is a bit off here.
Some artists dont 'connect' socially because they feel awkward doing so. Its not a big deal. Some performers can feel shy and uncomfortable once they step out of the comfort zone of singing or playing, believe it ot not.
I can personally live without a musician patronising me with insincere platitudes. Not feeling ripped off is a far more significant factor in being able to come out of a show feeling reasonably satisfied with what I've seen.
Charging $ 1000 is all about respect since they target wealthy people with those tickets. Not bothering to communicate with the audience on the other hand is sheer arrogance, especally when these artistst do bother about getting their hands on the audience's money.
What utter uber fan-boy bollocks.
High ticket prices, where the demand is appropriate, make sure that those who want to see them actually get tickets, since the number of possible shows are limited. Since their primary fan base consists of white older middle class well fed males, a few hundred bucks once or twice in a lifetime is not a big deal. People who ruin themselves by travelling and seeing multiple shows can only blame themselves for their stupidity.
Re: is slowhand really God?
Posted by:
pgarof
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Date: April 1, 2011 13:06
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An interviwer asked Jimmy Hendrix " Whats it like being the best guitarist in the world" Jimmy replied "Ask Rory gallagher"
That story is false, the "original" story said Jimi answered "ask Phil Keaggy". From wikipedia:
Years later, a story would circulate widely and persistently concerning Keaggy and Hendrix. It has been said that during an episode of The Tonight Show, Johnny Carson asked Hendrix, "Who is the best guitarist in the world?" Hendrix is said to have answered, "Phil Keaggy." Another version of the story has Hendrix being asked, "Jimi, how does it feel to be the world's greatest guitar player?" To which Hendrix supposedly replied, "I don't know, you'll have to ask Phil Keaggy!" This account is sometimes attributed to a magazine interview in either Rolling Stone or Guitar Player. Occasionally the story has the setting for the question being the Dick Cavett Show. Other versions have the question being posed to Eric Clapton. A more recent variant has Eddie Van Halen being asked the question by either David Letterman or Barbara Walters. Keaggy has long insisted that such stories are completely unfounded, noting that "it was impossible that Jimi Hendrix could ever have heard me...We...recorded our first album at Electric Lady Studios two weeks after his unfortunate death, so I just can’t imagine how he could’ve heard me. I think it’s just a rumor that someone’s kept alive, and it must be titillating enough to keep an interest there...So I don’t think it was said…and that’s it for that!
So where do you think the rory Gallagher story came from?
Probably Rory's brother, if his claim that he 'turned down the Stones' is any yardstick.
Rory Gallagher is god
I second that 100%
Re: is slowhand really God?
Posted by:
Gazza
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Date: April 1, 2011 14:36
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GazzaQuote
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To connect verbally and socially with the audience is to show it respect.
As opposed to charging them $500 or $1,000 for two hours entertainment where they can often only see the stage via a video screen, you mean? What does that say to you about 'respect' ?
I think your sense of perspective is a bit off here.
Some artists dont 'connect' socially because they feel awkward doing so. Its not a big deal. Some performers can feel shy and uncomfortable once they step out of the comfort zone of singing or playing, believe it ot not.
I can personally live without a musician patronising me with insincere platitudes. Not feeling ripped off is a far more significant factor in being able to come out of a show feeling reasonably satisfied with what I've seen.
Charging $ 1000 is all about respect since they target wealthy people with those tickets. Not bothering to communicate with the audience on the other hand is sheer arrogance, especally when these artistst do bother about getting their hands on the audience's money.
What utter uber fan-boy bollocks.
High ticket prices, where the demand is appropriate, make sure that those who want to see them actually get tickets, since the number of possible shows are limited. Since their primary fan base consists of white older middle class well fed males, a few hundred bucks once or twice in a lifetime is not a big deal. People who ruin themselves by travelling and seeing multiple shows can only blame themselves for their stupidity.
Yep. As I thought. It's still bollocks. So, theyre actually doing these well-heeled (and apparently very fat) few a favour by pricing the tickets so high, so they dont have to lower themselves to log on to a website to clamber for them with the scum of the earth. What elitist drivel. Isn't rock n roll just wonderful?
Re: is slowhand really God?
Posted by:
sweet neo con
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Date: April 1, 2011 15:09
EC = God???? Not if you believe this (see link): [www.eric-clapton.co.uk]
IORR............but I like it!
IORR............but I like it!
Re: is slowhand really God?
Posted by:
Bärs
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Date: April 1, 2011 17:28
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Bärs
To connect verbally and socially with the audience is to show it respect.
As opposed to charging them $500 or $1,000 for two hours entertainment where they can often only see the stage via a video screen, you mean? What does that say to you about 'respect' ?
I think your sense of perspective is a bit off here.
Some artists dont 'connect' socially because they feel awkward doing so. Its not a big deal. Some performers can feel shy and uncomfortable once they step out of the comfort zone of singing or playing, believe it ot not.
I can personally live without a musician patronising me with insincere platitudes. Not feeling ripped off is a far more significant factor in being able to come out of a show feeling reasonably satisfied with what I've seen.
Charging $ 1000 is all about respect since they target wealthy people with those tickets. Not bothering to communicate with the audience on the other hand is sheer arrogance, especally when these artistst do bother about getting their hands on the audience's money.
What utter uber fan-boy bollocks.
High ticket prices, where the demand is appropriate, make sure that those who want to see them actually get tickets, since the number of possible shows are limited. Since their primary fan base consists of white older middle class well fed males, a few hundred bucks once or twice in a lifetime is not a big deal. People who ruin themselves by travelling and seeing multiple shows can only blame themselves for their stupidity.
Yep. As I thought. It's still bollocks. So, theyre actually doing these well-heeled (and apparently very fat) few a favour by pricing the tickets so high, so they dont have to lower themselves to log on to a website to clamber for them with the scum of the earth. What elitist drivel. Isn't rock n roll just wonderful?
Yes, they are doing their fans a favour by making sure that those who really want to see them get their tickets. At some markets that's only possible if they charge very high prices.
Re: is slowhand really God?
Posted by:
stones78
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Date: April 1, 2011 17:42
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Bärs
Yes, they are doing their fans a favour by making sure that those who really want to see them get their tickets. At some markets that's only possible if they charge very high prices.
That doesn't make sense at all. They're doing the "fans" a favor by charging astronomical prices? How does that work exactly?
Re: is slowhand really God?
Posted by:
Gazza
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Date: April 1, 2011 18:02
You misread it, stones78 - its only the fans who 'really want to see them'. They're the only people who seem to deserve tickets, as Bars seems to evaluate how much of a fan you are solely by how much money you have or how much you're willing to sacrifice at all costs for a ticket. Even despite the fact that they're actually quite easy to get these days.
These super-fans therefore have to be rewarded for their unconditional loyalty by not having to breathe the same air as ordinary music fans. And as they're super-rich anyway, they'll think nothing of forking out a four figure sum for the privilege.
Something like that anyway.
I think the whole point of rock n roll as a way of bringing people together has passed over (or through) Bars' head somehow.
These super-fans therefore have to be rewarded for their unconditional loyalty by not having to breathe the same air as ordinary music fans. And as they're super-rich anyway, they'll think nothing of forking out a four figure sum for the privilege.
Something like that anyway.
I think the whole point of rock n roll as a way of bringing people together has passed over (or through) Bars' head somehow.
Re: is slowhand really God?
Posted by:
straycatuk
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Date: April 1, 2011 22:36
Check out the bootlegs of clapton's new years eve shows,usually at Guilford Civic Hall. He often just enjoys been buried in a band ,then suddenly let's rip.
Great Shows. Not God but still one of the very best IMHO.
SC UK
Great Shows. Not God but still one of the very best IMHO.
SC UK
Re: is slowhand really God?
Posted by:
crawdaddy
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Date: April 1, 2011 22:51
Five pages on EC on a Stones site.I've put in my few comments but he still has his admirers and detractors.................with plenty to say about the guy. 
Re: is slowhand really God?
Posted by:
CBII
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Date: April 2, 2011 06:52
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Sleepy City
Here's Bob Dylan with God...
Looks more like Chuck Berry with God to me...
I'll split the difference with you and say they both are highly regarded. Using the term GOD to describe mere mortals makes me think about lightning strikes and really hot places...
CBII
Re: is slowhand really God?
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StonesTod
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Date: April 2, 2011 06:58
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Sleepy City
Here's Bob Dylan with God...
Looks more like Chuck Berry with God to me...
I'll split the difference with you and say they both are highly regarded. Using the term GOD to describe mere mortals makes me think about lightning strikes and really hot places...
like central texas?
Re: is slowhand really God?
Posted by:
CBII
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Date: April 2, 2011 07:07
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Sleepy City
Here's Bob Dylan with God...
Looks more like Chuck Berry with God to me...
I'll split the difference with you and say they both are highly regarded. Using the term GOD to describe mere mortals makes me think about lightning strikes and really hot places...
like central texas?
I didn't know Central Texas had burning lakes too! Heh, heh, heh...
CBII
Re: is slowhand really God?
Posted by:
CBII
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Date: April 2, 2011 07:14
I have no other excuse to post this other than it's great.
Magic Sam playing All Your Love
CBII
Magic Sam playing All Your Love
CBII
Re: is slowhand really God?
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Date: April 3, 2011 07:33
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CBII
I have no other excuse to post this other than it's great.
Magic Sam playing All Your Love
That's great but how come he has Earl Hooker's name on his guitar?
Re: is slowhand really God?
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Date: April 3, 2011 08:31
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Sleepy City
Here's Bob Dylan with God...
Looks more like Chuck Berry with God to me...
I'll split the difference with you and say they both are highly regarded. Using the term GOD to describe mere mortals makes me think about lightning strikes and really hot places...
Exactly. I regard Chuck and Bob equally in my pantheon, odd that Clapton is the one referred to as "God".
Re: is slowhand really God?
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teleblaster
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Date: April 3, 2011 09:01
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CBII
I have no other excuse to post this other than it's great.
Magic Sam playing All Your Love
That's great but how come he has Earl Hooker's name on his guitar?
He's borrowed it. Presumably Earl Hooker was on the same TV show. Magic Sam was a fantastic player and to play like that on a borrowed guitar while being filmed gives a hint of just how great he was.
His best studio album is probably West Side Soul. If you fancy something a bit rawer, there's a great bootleg from 1969 of a show at Mandrake's, Oakland, CA, which is HOT (you can find it on Dime). One of the greats who died far too young.
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