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LuxuryStones
It's a matter of taste DP, I like all the songs on B&B better, the guitar playing,
the overall mood. And good memories
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Rip This
one of the best solos on any Stones track. Great lyric. A top 10 pick. One of the greatest tracks to listen to while driving.
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EasterMan
In my top 10 list of the Stones 70's songs.
The 1976 and 1977 El Macombo versions were awesome, Mick still had that roaring sound in his voice which fits this song so well.
The 2003 Four Flicks Olympia version is a horrendous trainwreck I think, but there was some decent 2003 versions too, like the Cirkus (Stockholm) version.
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LuxuryStones
Hand of Fate is a great song on the last Stones Album I really enjoy(ed).
What about TY?
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LeonidP
always one of my favorites - i think i love the multiple guitar solos the most ... not overdone and they fit perfectly with the track! But of course, Micks vox are killer!
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DandelionPowderman
I think it is Mick and Keith who don't know what's coming next a couple of times in that version. Especially Mick seems lost, and forgets a cue. They didn't bother to correct that the line Mick was supposed to sing is missing.
Ronnie plays ok. He is worse on Worried About You, imo.
Hand Of Fate is pretty worthless on stage unless Mick takes on that barking 1975 persona, imo. The song needs that growl.
Same with Crazy Mama.
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I think it is Mick and Keith who don't know what's coming next a couple of times in that version. Especially Mick seems lost, and forgets a cue. They didn't bother to correct that the line Mick was supposed to sing is missing.
Ronnie plays ok. He is worse on Worried About You, imo.
Hand Of Fate is pretty worthless on stage unless Mick takes on that barking 1975 persona, imo. The song needs that growl.
Same with Crazy Mama.
Yep, both Mick and Keith are lost throughout Hand Of Fate at Olympia. It really pisses me of why they didn't choose a better gig for the ''theatre disc'' on Four Flicks,
Cirkus in Stockhom or Circus Krone in Munich would have been twice as enjoyable to have as pro-shot.
About Mick's voice, he can't sing with that growl anymore. Last time I heard him do it was in 1997 when he sang Out Of Control.
As for Crazy Mama, it's not great live, but works ok, what I miss the most in this version is more distortion on Ronnie's guitar:
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Doxa
Hmm.. me thinks especially that Paris version sounds a bit tired and forced. Like teh guys were about fall asleep or something. I think the song with that kind of rather slow tempo is a bit hard to keep exciting. It sounds still good, but not excellent as the original.
A better solo guitarist could also help...
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You're just provoking
I can't see anything tiring, or lacking in the solo guitar department for that matter, on this version. Everything rocks.
No, I'm not. I have listened today several times the original, so compared to it the AUX ABOTTOIRS version just sounds flat and breathless (anyway, I hope we will get a polished, official version soon; usually better sounds give an impression of better performance). I think the best parts are the 'funk' moments, Preston also having a role there.
You really must be a huge Ronnie Wood fan if you think that his solos there are not lacking anything... In the original, the guitar solos uplift initially strong performance into higher spheres, actually carrying the song into new heights. Here Ronnie does not have such a great foundation as Perkins had, but what the song asks is the soloist to take the song into his shoulders and make it fly. Something just made for a natural solo guitar player like Mick Taylor. But Woody's not that kind of guitarist, and his soloing there is not uplifting anything, is more like just somehow coping with the task, almost struggling in pieces. Just getting the job done, somehow. Surely not 'leading' anything, something great solo guitarists tend to do by definition. I don't think it is a question of style or any artistically justified choices; it's really just secondary rate guitar work, a guy struggling in circumstances he clearly is not home with. One can only imagine what a proper solo guitarist could have done within those premises. It is just not his cup of tea.
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LongBeachArena72
While it's a good, serviceable rocker--and Perkins is great on it--I remember thinking at the time: this is the first time I ever laughed at a Mick Jagger performance. His delivery is fine but the "persona" he adopted (a bad bad man who killed a man and put him underground) is so far at odds with his mid-70's jet setting persona as to be ridiculous. He'd had some affected performances on GHS and IORR but "Hand of Fate" was a new low, in some respects, in the Jagger oeuvre.
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LongBeachArena72
While it's a good, serviceable rocker--and Perkins is great on it--I remember thinking at the time: this is the first time I ever laughed at a Mick Jagger performance. His delivery is fine but the "persona" he adopted (a bad bad man who killed a man and put him underground) is so far at odds with his mid-70's jet setting persona as to be ridiculous. He'd had some affected performances on GHS and IORR but "Hand of Fate" was a new low, in some respects, in the Jagger oeuvre.
I really don't like his voice on this track. It sounds like he's getting over a cold or something. It just doesn't work.
I also don't like the "break it down" portion of the song, before the last verse, a trick they seem to pull out when they can't think of anything actually interesting to do musically.
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While it's a good, serviceable rocker--and Perkins is great on it--I remember thinking at the time: this is the first time I ever laughed at a Mick Jagger performance. His delivery is fine but the "persona" he adopted (a bad bad man who killed a man and put him underground) is so far at odds with his mid-70's jet setting persona as to be ridiculous. He'd had some affected performances on GHS and IORR but "Hand of Fate" was a new low, in some respects, in the Jagger oeuvre.
I really don't like his voice on this track. It sounds like he's getting over a cold or something. It just doesn't work.
I also don't like the "break it down" portion of the song, before the last verse, a trick they seem to pull out when they can't think of anything actually interesting to do musically.
interesting. i don't like the mid-70s Mick voice at all, but i find this to be one of the few tracks where it works well.