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Jagger: "I don't know if I will work with Keith ".
Posted by: spain73 ()
Date: October 4, 2011 12:01

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Re: Jagger: "I don't know if I'll join Keith anymore".
Posted by: Come On ()
Date: October 4, 2011 12:06

No, porque no es cierto que Keith haciendo música ... ya lo entiendo ...

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Re: Jagger: "I don't know if I'll join Keith anymore".
Posted by: HighwireC ()
Date: October 4, 2011 12:11

Anyone can translate this?


Mick Jagger: "No sé si trabajaré
más con Keith Richards"

Actualizado Lunes, 3 de octubre de 2011 21:47

JULIÁN RUIZ | Londres

Un hotel en Londres. Mick Jagger en el alambre del artista que quiere conquistarte o que seas su presa para abrazarte a su nuevo producto. Una multiplicación de deseos. Superheavy y su disco recién lanzado son, simplemente, la venganza de Mick Jagger a la apóstata autobiografía de Keith Richards. Un grupo tan iconoclasta, tan anacrónico, que parece un disparate. Se puede considerar que es una especie de liberación de la dictadura que suelen ejercer en él los Rolling Stones. Éste es su sexto proyecto externo, incluidos cuatro álbumes en solitario. P.- ¿Tanto poder de convicción tiene sobre ti Dave Stewart, el viejo líder de Eurythmics, para crear y formar un nuevo grupo?

R.- Dave y yo ya habíamos trabajado juntos en otros proyectos. Por ejemplo, en la banda sonora de Alfie, donde también participaba Joss Stone. Su idea de formar un grupo ecléctico me sedujo desde un primer momento.

P.- ¿Cuando empezasteis a grabar realmente?

R.- En realidad, es casi un viejo proyecto. Fue a comienzos del año pasado. Quedamos citados en un estudio de Hollywood. Si te digo la verdad, no teníamos nada planeado. Absolutamente nada. Tampoco sabíamos lo que íbamos a hacer. Pero todos aportábamos algunas ideas, algo que ya teníamos escrito de antemano. Cualquier cosa podía valer.

P.- Creo que grababais con el grupo de Damian, el hijo de Bob Marley. ¿Cierto?

R.- Bueno, yo también tocaba guitarra en ciertas partes. Como Rahman, que estaba al frente de una serie de teclados. Y Dave Stewart, que era algo así como el director de orquesta.

P.- Pero habría un sistema para grabar. ¿Tampoco?

R.- El sistema era que Dave podía empezar con unos acordes, Joss le seguía con una melodía, yo mismo con otra. Pero grabábamos muy rápido, muy rápido. Como en los viejos tiempos, como si fuera una jam session. Cuando más o menos considerábamos que habíamos desarrollado una canción o que la toma estaba más o menos decente, aparecíamos en el control del estudio, escuchábamos y modificábamos lo que no nos interesaba. Había canciones que duraban más de 10 minutos.

P.- Es decir, la anarquía en el país de la música...

R.- No, no lo sé. Pero era muy fácil, muy divertido. Era como pintar con libertad en una enorme pared blanca. Francamente creativo y libre. No sólo era reggae el estilo único. A. R. Rahman contrapone su sexto sentido de la música tradicional hindú con el pop. En cada canción había 20 ideas distintas.

P.- ¿Te lo has pasado como nunca antes en tu carrera?

R.- Desde luego, grabar con Superheavy ha sido mucho más divertido que pasar por la dictadura y la disciplina de los Rolling Stones. Ha sido mucho más divertido. Además, es maravilloso no sentir la presión de ser el cantante del grupo. Joss es muy rápida y canta muy bien. A. R. Rahman también es un interesante cantante y Damian Marley es otro estilo que se contrapone a todos los demás. Uno tenía sus partes, pero no era el insoportable cantante solista.

P.- Pero supongo que no todas tus voces salieron de las improvisaciones, ¿no?

P.- No, pero valieron muchas de ellas. Luego, por supuesto, meses después grabé algunas voces nuevas, algunos coros, cosas así.

P.- Ya sé, ya sé que el estilo de Superheavy es indefinible. ¿Podéis defenderlo en directo?

R.- ¿Y por qué no? Todos nos hemos beneficiado de las ideas de los otros. Nadie quería imponerse sobre el otro. Sólo se trabajaba para que cualquier canción mejorase. Así que hemos firmado todos en muchas canciones. Eso es imposible en los Stones.

P.- Háblame de tus compañeros del grupo. Empecemos por la bella Joss Stone.

R.- Bueno, la más joven del grupo, la más inquieta, las más abierta generacionalmente a cualquier estilo. Pero lo que es gracioso es que su cantante favorita sea Aretha Franklin, en el viejo estilo. Joss es muy rápida para inventarse cualquier melodía. Muy rápida, muy ingeniosa.

P.- Uno siente admiración por A. R. Rahman. Sobre todo, desde su maravillosa banda sonora de la película 'Slumdog Millonaire'. ¿Cómo es A. R.?

R.- Lo más curioso del caso es que A. R. Rahman no había estado en un grupo desde los tiempos de la high school. Así que en Superheavy ha vuelto a sentirse como un niño. Musicalmente es muy creativo. Tiene maravillosas ideas en armonía.

P.- ¿Y el hijo de Bob Marley?

R.- Damian sabe perfectamente mi gusto y mi amor por el reggae. Se sabe de memoria la versión que hice con el amigo de su padre, el cantante Peter Tosh, que nosotros fichamos para Rolling Stones Records.

P.- Y finalmente: ¿Dave Stewart?

R.- Dave y yo llevamos ya bastante tiempo componiendo juntos. Era mi vecino en la casa que tenía en la Costa azul francesa y ya me ayudó muchísimo en mi segundo álbum en solitario. Hace unos pocos años grabamos la banda sonora del remake de Alfie y nos dieron un Globo de Oro por la canción Old habits die hard. Nos compenetramos bien y nos entendemos muy bien. Eso lo hace fácil. Él fue el impulsor de la idea del disco e incluso me dijo muy serio que no quería que yo fuese el líder y el cantante de la banda, que tan sólo fuera uno más. Creo que le hecho caso.

P.- Bueno, pasemos a la historia más dura. ya sé que no quieres hablar mucho de los Rolling Stones. Pero, de una vez por todas, ¿se va a producir la gira de los Stones, con motivo de sus 50 años de existencia?

R.- Pues no lo sé. No lo sé, para ser honesto. Como bien sabes tuvimos una reunión los cuatro hace unos días en Londres. Hablamos, discutimos, pero no llegamos a un acuerdo.

P.- ¿Se han acabado los Stones?

R.- No, nada de eso. Hasta hace unas semanas he estado trabajando muy duro en una nueva reedición del album Some Girls, uno de nuestros grandes álbumes, donde estaban Miss you, Beast of burden y Waiting on a friend. He recuperado algunos temas que incluimos, hemos retocado algunas cosas y hemos preparado un DVD con una de nuestras actuaciones en Texas, en el tiempo de la gira de Some Girls. Todo eso aparece en noviembre. Así que yo sigo trabajando en los Stones.

P.- ¿Es cierto que has hecho algunas canciones con Charlie Watts?

R.- Bueno, algunos blues de 12 compases. Nada serio. Lo que no sé es si volveré a trabajar con Keith Richards. No lo sé.

P.- Insisto: ¿hay posibilidades de volver a ver a los Stones encima de un escenario?

R.- Repito que está en consideración. Puede ser que sí. No discuto esa posibilidad. Pero también es posible que para celebrar los 50 años de los Stones me veais saliendo de una inmensa tarta vestido de mujer. No sé.

P.- ¿No quieres volver a hablar sobre el libro de Keith?

R.- Perdona, no.

(Mi impresión es que Mick Jagger volverá a tocar con los Rolling Stones en la puñetera gira del 50º aniversario de la banda. La fuerza del dinero es más poderosa. Y, además, como una vez me dijo él mismo: «Los fans de los Stones son autenticos dictadores, más que Franco. No te permiten hacer algo fuera del grupo». Tiene razón).

P.- ¿Volverá a la pantalla grande?

R.- Existe esa posibilidad. Se trata de una vieja idea mía, que más o menos ya se la había sugerido a Martin Scorsese. Se llama Tabloid. El guión ya está escrito por Josh Olson. Es la historia que pesa sobre un gran empresario de la comunicación, una figura demoniaca que lleva a una joven periodista a las cloacas de la vida. Veremos si Paramount compra la idea.

P.- ¿Y qué pasa con 'Ruby Tuesday', la película de dibujos animados, con una historia basada en las canciones de los Stones?

R.- Eso lleva un proceso muy lento. No sé en que parte estamos realmente, pero seguimos adelante con el proyecto.
[elmundo.orbyt.es]

Re: Jagger: "I don't know if I'll join Keith anymore".
Posted by: nocomment ()
Date: October 4, 2011 12:16

[fficial%26channel%3Ds%26biw%3D1568%26bih%3D826%26prmd%3Dimvnso" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">translate.google.com.au]

you may or may not need to hit the translate button. for some reason it will not copy and paste for us.

Re: Jagger: "I don't know if I'll join Keith anymore".
Posted by: SwayStones ()
Date: October 4, 2011 12:17

P.- Bueno, pasemos a la historia más dura. ya sé que no quieres hablar mucho de los Rolling Stones. Pero, de una vez por todas, ¿se va a producir la gira de los Stones, con motivo de sus 50 años de existencia?

OK,let's talk about the harder part now.
I know you don't want to talk much about the Stones ,but are you going to make a tour with the Stones for their 50 th anniversary ?


R.- Pues no lo sé. No lo sé, para ser honesto. Como bien sabes tuvimos una reunión los cuatro hace unos días en Londres. Hablamos, discutimos, pero no llegamos a un acuerdo.

I don't know to be honest.
Even if the 4 of us met in London .We talked,we discussed but didn't come to an agreement


P.- ¿Se han acabado los Stones?
Are you finished with the Stones

R.- No, nada de eso. Hasta hace unas semanas he estado trabajando muy duro en una nueva reedición del album Some Girls, uno de nuestros grandes álbumes, donde estaban Miss you, Beast of burden y Waiting on a friend. He recuperado algunos temas que incluimos, hemos retocado algunas cosas y hemos preparado un DVD con una de nuestras actuaciones en Texas, en el tiempo de la gira de Some Girls. Todo eso aparece en noviembre. Así que yo sigo trabajando en los Stones.

No,nothink like that .We worked very hard on the Some Girls reissue,one of our big album where we worked on Miss You, Beast of Burden and Waiting on a firend .
We included other matters and prepared a DVD showing one of our performance in Texas .
All of this will come out in Novemeber .So it's the sign I am still working with the Stones




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Re: Jagger: "I don't know if I'll join Keith anymore".
Posted by: spain73 ()
Date: October 4, 2011 12:19

THE WHOLE INTERVIEW. SPANISH

LINK

He says they met in London some days ago but they didn't reach a solution.
But the journalist thinks he will join the Stones for a 50tn celebration tour.
The power of money and fans pressure are too strong, journalist says on his comments.

Jagger has been making some blues songs with Charlie, "just for fun". But he doubts to play with Keith.

We'll see.....

Re: Jagger: "I don't know if I'll join Keith anymore".
Posted by: dead.flowers ()
Date: October 4, 2011 12:27

"Lo que no sé es si volveré a trabajar con Keith Richards. No lo sé."

Translation:

What I don't know is if I will get back to working with Keith Richards. I don't know.

Better translations [by native speakers] appreciated.

Re: Jagger: "I don't know if I'll join Keith anymore".
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: October 4, 2011 12:29

Jagger has been making some blues songs with Charlie, "just for fun". But he doubts to play with Keith.

......so does this just mean Keith won't be turning
up to join Mick and Charlie to add anything to these blues songs/Demos



ROCKMAN

Re: Jagger: "I don't know if I'll join Keith anymore".
Date: October 4, 2011 12:30

Nothing new here. He is practically saying the same as he did in last week's interviews. Working with Charlie, don't know if he'll do stones gigs etc.

Wait and see smiling smiley



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2011-10-04 12:33 by DandelionPowderman.

Re: Jagger: "I don't know if I'll join Keith anymore".
Posted by: proudmary ()
Date: October 4, 2011 12:32

from Google trans.

Q. - I know you do not want to talk much about the Rolling Stones. But once and for all, is going to produce the Stones tour, during his 50 years of existence?

A. - Well, do not know. I do not know, to be honest. As you know we had a meeting four days ago in London. We talk, argue, but do not reach an agreement.

Q. - Have you finished the Stones?

A. - No, nothing like that. Until a few weeks I have been working very hard on a new reissue of the album Some Girls , one of our great albums, where they were Miss You , Beast of Burden and Waiting on a friend . I have regained some issues including, we tweaked some things and we have prepared a DVD with one of our performances in Texas, at the time of the tour of Some Girls . All this occurs in November. So I'm still working on the Stones.

Q. - Is it true you've done a few songs with Charlie Watts?

A. - Well, some 12-bar blues. Nothing serious. I just do not know if I'll ever work with Keith Richards. I do not know.

Q. - I repeat: there is a chance to see the Stones on stage?

A. - I repeat, is under consideration. May be yes. I do not dispute that possibility. But it is also possible to celebrate 50 years of the Stones you see me coming out of a huge cake in drag. I do not know.

Q. - Do not you want to talk about Keith's book?

A - Sorry, no.

Q. - Will he return to the big screen?

A. - There is that possibility. This is an old idea of mine, who more or less as it had been suggested to Martin Scorsese. It's called Tabloid . The script is already written by Josh Olson. It is the story that hangs over a large employer of communication, a demonic figure who takes a young journalist to the sewers of life. We'll see if Paramount buys the idea.

Q. - And what about 'Ruby Tuesday' animated film with a story based on the songs of the Stones?

A. - It takes a very slow process. I do not know what part we're really, but we went ahead with the project.

[elmundo.orbyt.es]



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Re: Jagger: "I don't know if I'll join Keith anymore".
Posted by: spain73 ()
Date: October 4, 2011 12:33

Well... "touring" is "working with"...????

Re: Jagger: "I don't know if I'll join Keith anymore".
Posted by: dead.flowers ()
Date: October 4, 2011 12:34

Quote
Rockman
Jagger has been making some blues songs with Charlie, "just for fun". But he doubts to play with Keith.

......so does this just mean Keith won't be turning
up to join Mick and Charlie to add anything to these blues songs/Demos

Yep, Rockman, this context also had came to my mind. I was just about trying to dress it in words when your post came. Thank you.

So it need not be meant "for good and forever", right?

Re: Jagger: "I don't know if I'll join Keith anymore".
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: October 4, 2011 12:39

So it need not be meant "for good and forever", right?

....YEAH that's it



ROCKMAN

Re: Jagger: "I don't know if I'll join Keith anymore".
Posted by: proudmary ()
Date: October 4, 2011 12:42

"Lo que no sé es si volveré a trabajar con Keith Richards.

I just do not know if I'll ever work with Keith Richards

Re: Jagger: "I don't know if I'll join Keith anymore".
Posted by: Handova ()
Date: October 4, 2011 12:43

Julián Ruiz is known for having strong connections in the show business but he has to be the least accurate journalist all over Spain -so take his interview with a HUGE grain of salt. He's always showing off about his friendship with any celebrity or flying around the world attending exlusive events yet his misquotes, mixed up information and half made up stories are mythical.

Re: Jagger: "I don't know if I'll join Keith anymore".
Posted by: marcovandereijk ()
Date: October 4, 2011 12:53

Quote
interview
I have been working very hard on a new reissue of the album Some Girls ,
one of our great albums, where they were Miss You , Beast of Burden and Waiting on a friend

Quote
Handova
Julián Ruiz is known for having strong connections in the show business but he has to be the least accurate journalist all over Spain

At least either he or Mick was mistaken about Waiting on a Friend. It's from the "Goats Head soup"
sessions, not Some Girls.

Just as long as the guitar plays, let it steal your heart away

Re: Jagger: "I don't know if I'll join Keith anymore".
Posted by: Handova ()
Date: October 4, 2011 12:56

^ That would be typical of Julián Ruiz, I bet.

Re: Jagger: "I don't know if I'll join Keith anymore".
Posted by: Edith Grove ()
Date: October 4, 2011 12:59

Quote
spain73
Jagger has been making some blues songs with Charlie, "just for fun".We'll see.....

Only speculating, of course, but is not Charlie usually very involved with tour planning?

Does anyone think that Mick, while promoting SH, would be hanging around with Charlie, currently involved in his own project, just to make some blues songs "for fun?"


Re: Jagger: "I don't know if I'll join Keith anymore".
Posted by: Bliss ()
Date: October 4, 2011 13:00

Just Mick being his old cagey self.

Re: Jagger: "I don't know if I'll join Keith anymore".
Date: October 4, 2011 13:11

Quote
Edith Grove
Quote
spain73
Jagger has been making some blues songs with Charlie, "just for fun".We'll see.....

Only speculating, of course, but is not Charlie usually very involved with tour planning?

Does anyone think that Mick, while promoting SH, would be hanging around with Charlie, currently involved in his own project, just to make some blues songs "for fun?"

Good point.

Re: Jagger: "I don't know if I'll join Keith anymore".
Posted by: sweet neo con ()
Date: October 4, 2011 13:12

Quote
Bliss
Just Mick being his old cagey self.

i think it's more than that. i think he's trying to break it to us (the public) gently.
i think (unlike in the past) there is some irreparable stuff between M&K.
it's one thing to feud over solo projects that prevent a Stones tour...it's another thing
when your "brother" tries to personally embarrass you in an unnecessary autobiography.

side note: every time i see things written about SuperHeavy...they say "Mick's new group" or
"their debut album" (meaning there will be more)............IMO these are all subtle ways to say
that Mick has moved on. He won't come right out and say THE STONES HAVE ENDED because there's
always a glimmer of a chance.....and saying something like that might impact the reception of upcoming
vault releases.

It sounds like Mick didn't get what he wanted from Keith (apologies or whatever) in their recent meeting.


IORR............but I like it!

Re: Jagger: "I don't know if I'll join Keith anymore".
Posted by: Redhotcarpet ()
Date: October 4, 2011 13:15

Basically the Stones will reunite for a celebration of the tongue, the Stones are no more a band (the 1989 deal continues), and Mick puts some pressure on Keith (really the ticket buying fans). I guess Waiting on a friend is added to Some Girls to make us think, Oh I sure hope Mick waits for his dear friend Keith.

Re: Jagger: "I don't know if I'll join Keith anymore".
Posted by: johnnyjolene ()
Date: October 4, 2011 13:16

I think, this is Mick's way to @#$%& with Keith. He want's to Keith regret his book. Mick knows, these statements are prodably driving Keith crazy.

Re: Jagger: "I don't know if I'll join Keith anymore".
Posted by: EddieByword ()
Date: October 4, 2011 13:21

Quote
Edith Grove
Quote
spain73
Jagger has been making some blues songs with Charlie, "just for fun".We'll see.....

Only speculating, of course, but is not Charlie usually very involved with tour planning?

Does anyone think that Mick, while promoting SH, would be hanging around with Charlie, currently involved in his own project, just to make some blues songs "for fun?"

This happened when Mick and Charlie got togethor -for whatever reason - when Mick was putting the vocal on the Bob Dylan cover 'Watching the river' for Ben Waters Ian Stewart tribute 'Boogie4Stu'

Re: Jagger: "I don't know if I'll join Keith anymore".
Posted by: Redhotcarpet ()
Date: October 4, 2011 13:25

Once again, this is Mick doing PR. He says they will tour again and he wants us to buy tickets when they do.

Re: Jagger: "I don't know if I'll join Keith anymore".
Posted by: sweet neo con ()
Date: October 4, 2011 13:26

Quote
johnnyjolene
I think, this is Mick's way to @#$%& with Keith. He want's to Keith regret his book. Mick knows, these statements are prodably driving Keith crazy.

Keith might not like what Mick is saying...but (IMO) i don't think that's why Mick
is saying these things. On the one hand...Mick is doing a SuperHeavy promotion
and seems to be reluctantly answering Stones-related questions....and secondly,
Mick has never seemed as petty as Keith. I'd bet my last dollar that Mick would be
more likely to directly address Keith (privately...in person) about their issues than through the press.
Not sure i could say the same thing about Keith.


IORR............but I like it!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011-10-04 13:28 by sweet neo con.

Re: Jagger: "I don't know if I'll join Keith anymore".
Posted by: HighwireC ()
Date: October 4, 2011 13:40

Quote
DandelionPowderman
Nothing new here. He is practically saying the same as he did in last week's interviews. Working with Charlie, don't know if he'll do stones gigs etc.

Wait and see smiling smiley

Oui!

Re: Jagger: "I don't know if I'll join Keith anymore".
Posted by: crawdaddy ()
Date: October 4, 2011 13:48

Quote
dead.flowers
"Lo que no sé es si volveré a trabajar con Keith Richards. No lo sé."

Translation:

What I don't know is if I will get back to working with Keith Richards. I don't know.

Better translations [by native speakers] appreciated.


Let's all hope this is a mis-quote by the journalist when he was writing his notes or listening to his recorded playback.Doubt if Mick would allow the interview to be recorded though. confused smiley

Re: Jagger: "I don't know if I'll join Keith anymore".
Posted by: Bliss ()
Date: October 4, 2011 14:11

Quote
sweet neo con
Quote
Bliss
Just Mick being his old cagey self.

i think it's more than that. i think he's trying to break it to us (the public) gently.
i think (unlike in the past) there is some irreparable stuff between M&K.
it's one thing to feud over solo projects that prevent a Stones tour...it's another thing
when your "brother" tries to personally embarrass you in an unnecessary autobiography.

side note: every time i see things written about SuperHeavy...they say "Mick's new group" or
"their debut album" (meaning there will be more)............IMO these are all subtle ways to say
that Mick has moved on. He won't come right out and say THE STONES HAVE ENDED because there's
always a glimmer of a chance.....and saying something like that might impact the reception of upcoming
vault releases.

It sounds like Mick didn't get what he wanted from Keith (apologies or whatever) in their recent meeting.

You could well be right. I have said all along that Mick was outraged by Keith's book, and predicted that he would pour his energies into non-Stones projects as a consequence. But he is so guarded by nature that he would never truly show his hand.

Re: Jagger: "I don't know if I'll join Keith anymore".
Posted by: Cocaine Eyes ()
Date: October 4, 2011 15:29

Oh Mick, Mick, Mick - you do wonderful PR for The Rolling Stones! You say the most outrageous things after all these years! That's our Mick!

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