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Re: What Is The Quintessential Rolling Stones Song?
Posted by: Keefan ()
Date: August 24, 2010 21:40

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dewlover
It's clear to me that no real aficionados have weighed in on this one because the obvious choice would be "Sympathy For The Devil".

It's a great song, but its a samba with Keef on bass...so that rules it out of being the "quintessential" Stones tune. Besides, every real Stones fan knows that the obvious choice is 'Jumping Jack Sugar Shelter'.



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Re: What Is The Quintessential Rolling Stones Song?
Posted by: ManuelStones ()
Date: August 24, 2010 23:02

I believe it is Stray Cat Blues.

Re: What Is The Quintessential Rolling Stones Song?
Posted by: microvibe ()
Date: August 24, 2010 23:06

gimme shelter!

Re: What Is The Quintessential Rolling Stones Song?
Posted by: Bjorn ()
Date: August 24, 2010 23:12

I´m free
Get off of my cloud

Re: What Is The Quintessential Rolling Stones Song?
Posted by: Adrian-L ()
Date: August 24, 2010 23:14

Satisfaction.

It's the one Stones song everyone knows.

Re: What Is The Quintessential Rolling Stones Song?
Posted by: crumbling_mice ()
Date: August 24, 2010 23:15

It has to be Brown Sugar (studio version)
It combines the dirty swagger of the Stones and the biting riff and leery chorus we know and love. It has the undertones of illegality and irreverence.

Close second - Gimme Shelter

close third - Let it Loose


Re: What Is The Quintessential Rolling Stones Song?
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: August 24, 2010 23:31

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kleermaker
Of course! But Mick looks as if he's got a vague idea.

Yes, there is no quintessential stones song.



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Re: What Is The Quintessential Rolling Stones Song?
Posted by: ChrisM ()
Date: August 25, 2010 00:31

For my pick, I'd have to say the original version of Honky Tonk Women and here is why: This recording practically redefined the Rolling Stones sound and show cased what was to become Keith's signature and unique rhythmic phrasing in a way no other recording before it had done. The song's release also marks the first use, correct me if I am wrong, of the now fabled open G tuning that was used on so many of the Stones hits that proceeded it. One could go as far to say that it marks the beginning of the Rolling Stones as they came to be known by so many. For these reasons alone the song has earned them, and especially Keith, a place in Rock and Roll heaven and thus is, in my view, quintessential.

Re: What Is The Quintessential Rolling Stones Song?
Posted by: BobK ()
Date: August 25, 2010 00:34

I agree with a lot of you: Jumping Jack Flash

Re: What Is The Quintessential Rolling Stones Song?
Posted by: Squiggle ()
Date: August 25, 2010 00:42

Maybe JJF if there is one but I'd also suggest Get Off of My Cloud.

One of the best examples of the twin-guitar arrangements which Brian and Keith originally put at the centre of the Stones and one of the best mid-sixties lyrics.



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Re: What Is The Quintessential Rolling Stones Song?
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: August 25, 2010 00:53

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ChrisM
For my pick, I'd have to say the original version of Honky Tonk Women and here is why: This recording practically redefined the Rolling Stones sound and show cased what was to become Keith's signature and unique rhythmic phrasing in a way no other recording before it had done. The song's release also marks the first use, correct me if I am wrong, of the now fabled open G tuning that was used on so many of the Stones hits that proceeded it. One could go as far to say that it marks the beginning of the Rolling Stones as they came to be known by so many. For these reasons alone the song has earned them, and especially Keith, a place in Rock and Roll heaven and thus is, in my view, quintessential.

but they stole the riff from Ry!!!! and the official quintessential rulebook clearly stipulates entries must not be pilfered, in part or in whole, from others.....

Re: What Is The Quintessential Rolling Stones Song?
Posted by: ChrisM ()
Date: August 25, 2010 01:22

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StonesTod
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ChrisM
For my pick, I'd have to say the original version of Honky Tonk Women and here is why: This recording practically redefined the Rolling Stones sound and show cased what was to become Keith's signature and unique rhythmic phrasing in a way no other recording before it had done. The song's release also marks the first use, correct me if I am wrong, of the now fabled open G tuning that was used on so many of the Stones hits that proceeded it. One could go as far to say that it marks the beginning of the Rolling Stones as they came to be known by so many. For these reasons alone the song has earned them, and especially Keith, a place in Rock and Roll heaven and thus is, in my view, quintessential.

but they stole the riff from Ry!!!! and the official quintessential rulebook clearly stipulates entries must not be pilfered, in part or in whole, from others.....
Hmmm, using that line of reasoning, a case could be made for many other songs that were 'inspired by' read, 'ripped off' by others...

Re: What Is The Quintessential Rolling Stones Song?
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: August 25, 2010 01:31

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ChrisM
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ChrisM
For my pick, I'd have to say the original version of Honky Tonk Women and here is why: This recording practically redefined the Rolling Stones sound and show cased what was to become Keith's signature and unique rhythmic phrasing in a way no other recording before it had done. The song's release also marks the first use, correct me if I am wrong, of the now fabled open G tuning that was used on so many of the Stones hits that proceeded it. One could go as far to say that it marks the beginning of the Rolling Stones as they came to be known by so many. For these reasons alone the song has earned them, and especially Keith, a place in Rock and Roll heaven and thus is, in my view, quintessential.

but they stole the riff from Ry!!!! and the official quintessential rulebook clearly stipulates entries must not be pilfered, in part or in whole, from others.....
Hmmm, using that line of reasoning, a case could be made for many other songs that were 'inspired by' read, 'ripped off' by others...

it's not a line of reasoning - it's an official RULE!!! thou shalt not steal...or something.

Re: What Is The Quintessential Rolling Stones Song?
Posted by: CousinC ()
Date: August 25, 2010 01:47

Well, is there a quintessential Beatles song?
I don't know and I don't think there has to be one! Maybe AC/DC has one.
But the Beatles are too multi-variant.

Same with the Stones although you could name songs like JJF, HTW or Brown Sugar.
But you don't really do justice to them with only stuff like this.

Re: What Is The Quintessential Rolling Stones Song?
Posted by: kleermaker ()
Date: August 25, 2010 01:55

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CousinC
Well, is there a quintessential Beatles song?
I don't know and I don't think there has to be one! Maybe AC/DC has one.
But the Beatles are too multi-variant.

Same with the Stones although you could name songs like JJF, HTW or Brown Sugar.
But you don't really do justice to them with only stuff like this.

I beg to disagree, Cousin. Both Beatles and Stones (imo the Stones even more) are indeed multi-variant. But I think this has everything to do with one's perception of the essense of the band, what it has to say. As for the Beatles that's easier to answer, because they didn't last that long and were always the same band. As for the Stones, they are actually several bands in one (name), if you understand what I mean.

Re: What Is The Quintessential Rolling Stones Song?
Posted by: Deltics ()
Date: August 25, 2010 02:13

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ChrisM
For my pick, I'd have to say the original version of Honky Tonk Women and here is why: This recording practically redefined the Rolling Stones sound and show cased what was to become Keith's signature and unique rhythmic phrasing in a way no other recording before it had done. The song's release also marks the first use, correct me if I am wrong, of the now fabled open G tuning that was used on so many of the Stones hits that proceeded it. One could go as far to say that it marks the beginning of the Rolling Stones as they came to be known by so many. For these reasons alone the song has earned them, and especially Keith, a place in Rock and Roll heaven and thus is, in my view, quintessential.

Not forgetting the best drums ever!
This is the song that always says it for me, the cowbell, those drums, the riff, the lyric, the vocal, the chorus, the production and the whole sound of it.
Everything!
If I had explain what the Rolling Stones sounded like to a Martian, this is what I'd play 'em!




It really doesn't get better than this!
(Just my opinion of course, and I don't give stuff what key it's in or who they might have nicked anything from!!)


"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"

Re: What Is The Quintessential Rolling Stones Song?
Posted by: CousinC ()
Date: August 25, 2010 02:15

I understand. And you see that makes it even harder. Essense of what and whom . .!?
At first look it seems to be pretty easy to speak about the Stones "essense". That's why I named those 3 songs. But if you think more it's not that easy . .

Re: What Is The Quintessential Rolling Stones Song?
Posted by: RockinBud ()
Date: August 25, 2010 17:12

Close call for me between Brown Sugar, Gimme Shelter & JJF
my ring tone on cell is JJF
I have the 45 jacket cover of JJF on my wall
so when it all comes down to one song which gives me chills every time I hear it
JUMPIN JACK FLASH
RB

Re: What Is The Quintessential Rolling Stones Song?
Posted by: Come On ()
Date: August 25, 2010 17:14

No-one says 'Start me up'..I thought everybody liked that one...

Re: What Is The Quintessential Rolling Stones Song?
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: August 25, 2010 18:42

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ChrisM
For my pick, I'd have to say the original version of Honky Tonk Women and here is why: This recording practically redefined the Rolling Stones sound and show cased what was to become Keith's signature and unique rhythmic phrasing in a way no other recording before it had done. The song's release also marks the first use, correct me if I am wrong, of the now fabled open G tuning that was used on so many of the Stones hits that proceeded it. One could go as far to say that it marks the beginning of the Rolling Stones as they came to be known by so many. For these reasons alone the song has earned them, and especially Keith, a place in Rock and Roll heaven and thus is, in my view, quintessential.

Solid reasoning here...

Re: What Is The Quintessential Rolling Stones Song?
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: August 25, 2010 18:49

HTW is the first released Rolling Stones recording which features Keith using open G, but Brian had used it on various recordings before.

Re: What Is The Quintessential Rolling Stones Song?
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: August 25, 2010 19:17

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His Majesty
HTW is the first released Rolling Stones recording which features Keith using open G, but Brian had used it on various recordings before.

For slide, maybe, but not in the way Keith did. HTW was the template for all the open G greatness to follow.

Re: What Is The Quintessential Rolling Stones Song?
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: August 25, 2010 19:21

being the first doesn't make it the quintessential. my oldest brother was the first kid in our family, but i never regarded him as the quintessential brother....

Re: What Is The Quintessential Rolling Stones Song?
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: August 25, 2010 19:28

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StonesTod
being the first doesn't make it the quintessential. my oldest brother was the first kid in our family, but i never regarded him as the quintessential brother....

Does he know that? My feeling is that he would be deeply hurt.

Re: What Is The Quintessential Rolling Stones Song?
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: August 25, 2010 19:35

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71Tele
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StonesTod
being the first doesn't make it the quintessential. my oldest brother was the first kid in our family, but i never regarded him as the quintessential brother....

Does he know that? My feeling is that he would be deeply hurt.

he doesn't know anything...and not only that...like yogi berra says, he doesn't even suspect anything....

Re: What Is The Quintessential Rolling Stones Song?
Posted by: kleermaker ()
Date: August 25, 2010 19:40

The whole quintessential thing is of course a matter of utter subjectivity. Technical and objective aspects like 'open G' etc. are not relevant at all. The question actually is: What song provides the recognition which one has when listening to the Stones the best? And the answer: Yes, if I hear THAT particular song then that special feeling of emotional recognition hits me the hardest.

Re: What Is The Quintessential Rolling Stones Song?
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: August 25, 2010 19:43

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StonesTod
being the first doesn't make it the quintessential. my oldest brother was the first kid in our family, but i never regarded him as the quintessential brother....

Does he know that? My feeling is that he would be deeply hurt.

he doesn't know anything...and not only that...like yogi berra says, he doesn't even suspect anything....

Ah, Yogi. Now you're talking my language...When you get to a fork in the road, take it! Words to live by. Underrated ballplayer, underrated manager.

Re: What Is The Quintessential Rolling Stones Song?
Date: August 25, 2010 19:46

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kleermaker
Maybe Sway comes closest.

A quintessential Rolling Stones song with Keith on vocals only?

Re: What Is The Quintessential Rolling Stones Song?
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: August 25, 2010 19:46

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71Tele
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71Tele
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StonesTod
being the first doesn't make it the quintessential. my oldest brother was the first kid in our family, but i never regarded him as the quintessential brother....

Does he know that? My feeling is that he would be deeply hurt.

he doesn't know anything...and not only that...like yogi berra says, he doesn't even suspect anything....

Ah, Yogi. Now you're talking my language...When you get to a fork in the road, take it! Words to live by. Underrated ballplayer, underrated manager.

my personal fave: "nobody goes to that restaurant; the lines are too long."

Re: What Is The Quintessential Rolling Stones Song?
Posted by: kleermaker ()
Date: August 25, 2010 19:55

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kleermaker
Maybe Sway comes closest.

A quintessential Rolling Stones song with Keith on vocals only?

Why not? Read my former post for explanation.

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