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"Another notable performance during the tour was the 14 December performance at Kansas City's Kemper Arena. Previous Stones lead guitarist Mick Taylor joined the band for a large part of the performance. Ronnie Wood was not happy with Taylor's appearance, however: "[He was] bulldozing through parts of songs that should have been subtle, ignoring breaks and taking uninvited solos."
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"Another notable performance during the tour was the 14 December performance at Kansas City's Kemper Arena. Previous Stones lead guitarist Mick Taylor joined the band for a large part of the performance. Ronnie Wood was not happy with Taylor's appearance, however: "[He was] bulldozing through parts of songs that should have been subtle, ignoring breaks and taking uninvited solos."
from: wikipedia
Don't worry about it HMS. Ron couldn't possibly know how they used to sound with Taylor on stage, back in the early 7-tees.
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"Another notable performance during the tour was the 14 December performance at Kansas City's Kemper Arena. Previous Stones lead guitarist Mick Taylor joined the band for a large part of the performance. Ronnie Wood was not happy with Taylor's appearance, however: "[He was] bulldozing through parts of songs that should have been subtle, ignoring breaks and taking uninvited solos."
from: wikipedia
Don't worry about it HMS. Ron couldn't possibly know how they used to sound with Taylor on stage, back in the early 7-tees.
Actually, I bet Ron was very aware of how the Stones sounded with Taylor. When he first played with them in 1975, he clearly tried to duplicate some of the licks Taylor was known for on certain songs.
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HMS
"Another notable performance during the tour was the 14 December performance at Kansas City's Kemper Arena. Previous Stones lead guitarist Mick Taylor joined the band for a large part of the performance. Ronnie Wood was not happy with Taylor's appearance, however: "[He was] bulldozing through parts of songs that should have been subtle, ignoring breaks and taking uninvited solos."
from: wikipedia
Don't worry about it HMS. Ron couldn't possibly know how they used to sound with Taylor on stage, back in the early 7-tees.
Actually, I bet Ron was very aware of how the Stones sounded with Taylor. When he first played with them in 1975, he clearly tried to duplicate some of the licks Taylor was known for on certain songs.
Ronnie was admittedly hammered on booze and tons coke during this entire period (c.1981)- there's an old interview somewhere where he claims to have spent apprx. $1,000/day getting high on freebase.
In 1975 he may have been trying to duplicate some of Taylor's licks, but all the recorded evidence suggests he came nowhere near succeeding.
By the time the '81 blur and haze of non-stop partying sessions were in full throttle, any attempt to remember or emulate Taylor's spirited guitar playing was a thing of the past.
Glad Ronnie was able to recover from that dark period...
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By 81 they mostly played new material or other covers. That's why it was interesting having Taylor on board for this show, imo.
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tjkrol
Monsoon Ragoon, thanks for the info. Disc 3 & 4 are misdated then? It states December 15, 1981. Right?
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Monsoon Ragoon, thanks for the info. Disc 3 & 4 are misdated then? It states December 15, 1981. Right?
CD 3&4 on OMS/EVSD are the 15th December, without Mick Taylor. But he is also not really hearable on the soundboards of the 14th IMHO.
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"Another notable performance during the tour was the 14 December performance at Kansas City's Kemper Arena. Previous Stones lead guitarist Mick Taylor joined the band for a large part of the performance. Ronnie Wood was not happy with Taylor's appearance, however: "[He was] bulldozing through parts of songs that should have been subtle, ignoring breaks and taking uninvited solos."
from: wikipedia
Don't worry about it HMS. Ron couldn't possibly know how they used to sound with Taylor on stage, back in the early 7-tees.
Actually, I bet Ron was very aware of how the Stones sounded with Taylor. When he first played with them in 1975, he clearly tried to duplicate some of the licks Taylor was known for on certain songs.
Ronnie was admittedly hammered on booze and tons coke during this entire period (c.1981)- there's an old interview somewhere where he claims to have spent apprx. $1,000/day getting high on freebase.
In 1975 he may have been trying to duplicate some of Taylor's licks, but all the recorded evidence suggests he came nowhere near succeeding.
By the time the '81 blur and haze of non-stop partying sessions were in full throttle, any attempt to remember or emulate Taylor's spirited guitar playing was a thing of the past.
Glad Ronnie was able to recover from that dark period...
It amazes me that Ronnie often played very well in 1981, given what he was doing to his brain at the time. As mentioned in another thread, he did some of his best guitar work here, on many songs like BL, Neighbours, LIB, JMI, BOB and others. As for 1975, I didn't feel like he was trying to copy Mick Taylor but you could hear him restate certain of Taylor's melodic themes at times, but in his won ragged Woody-style.
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"Another notable performance during the tour was the 14 December performance at Kansas City's Kemper Arena. Previous Stones lead guitarist Mick Taylor joined the band for a large part of the performance. Ronnie Wood was not happy with Taylor's appearance, however: "[He was] bulldozing through parts of songs that should have been subtle, ignoring breaks and taking uninvited solos."
from: wikipedia
Don't worry about it HMS. Ron couldn't possibly know how they used to sound with Taylor on stage, back in the early 7-tees.
Actually, I bet Ron was very aware of how the Stones sounded with Taylor. When he first played with them in 1975, he clearly tried to duplicate some of the licks Taylor was known for on certain songs.
Ronnie was admittedly hammered on booze and tons coke during this entire period (c.1981)- there's an old interview somewhere where he claims to have spent apprx. $1,000/day getting high on freebase.
In 1975 he may have been trying to duplicate some of Taylor's licks, but all the recorded evidence suggests he came nowhere near succeeding.
By the time the '81 blur and haze of non-stop partying sessions were in full throttle, any attempt to remember or emulate Taylor's spirited guitar playing was a thing of the past.
Glad Ronnie was able to recover from that dark period...
It amazes me that Ronnie often played very well in 1981, given what he was doing to his brain at the time. As mentioned in another thread, he did some of his best guitar work here, on many songs like BL, Neighbours, LIB, JMI, BOB and others. As for 1975, I didn't feel like he was trying to copy Mick Taylor but you could hear him restate certain of Taylor's melodic themes at times, but in his won ragged Woody-style.
Sorry if I misundertsood, but you first said you thought Ronnie in 1975 "clearly tried to duplicate some of the licks Taylor was known for" which in my mind is the same as trying to copy.
But yes, for the 1981 tour Ronnie was playing well considering all he was going through.
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D. But most important is the fact that Taylor's guitar is hardly audible on the bootlegs of that show. Wood must have had great problems with Taylor's presence: really threatening for him.
He did have a problem with Taylor's presence in 2013 so why would he have in 1981?
I have never played an instrument in my life and maybe that is part of the reason, but I don't know how you guys can listen to the Stones and decide who is doing what on the guitar. I mean there are times when Taylor played with them when I can tell but other then that I could never tell the difference between Richards and Wood or even sometimes between Richards and Taylor.
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Stoneage
It's astonishing though. All this fuzz about a guitarist who left the band more than 40 years ago. It's almost like a cult. Maybe Taylor was the second Christ? Who knows?
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It's astonishing though. All this fuzz about a guitarist who left the band more than 40 years ago. It's almost like a cult. Maybe Taylor was the second Christ? Who knows?