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Keno is not the best source for this kind of information.

I still would like to know from Mathijs which source, because there are obviously different statements. And only saying Keno (or whatever source) is "not the best source" has no meaning at all.

I was trying to be kind to Keno--or, really, to people here who use Keno's site seriously. The knowledgeable posters here (use your own judgment to decide on these) are far more reliable.

Okay, I'll take a very careful listen once more and concentrate on the guitars before the jamming-solo. In fact I'm an expert in listening and thus as knwowledgeable as any knowledgeable person here, so that will do the job if there's not any objective and just source (as so often re The Stones).

LYRICS FROM THE 1972 "EXILE" SONGBOOK:

No good, can't speak, wound up, no sleep.
Sky Diver inside her, skip rope, stunt flyer.
Wounded lover, got no time on hand.

One last cycle, thrill freak Uncle Sam.
Pause for bus'ness, hope you understand.
Judge and Jury walk out hand in hand.

Dietrich Movies, close up boogies, kissng cut in cans.
Grotesque music, million dollar sad.
Got no tactics, got no time on hand.

Left shoe shuffle, right shoe muffle, Sinking in the sand.
Fade out freedom, steaming heat on, Watch that hat in black.
Finger twitching, got no time in hand.

COPYRIGHT 1972 by PROMOPUB P.B.

I've always thought the lyric was "kissng Cxxt in Cannes" having read that somewhere. If that is the lyric, I doubt they'd be able to print those lyrics in the song book. The 1973 song book for "Goat's Head Soup" has the "Star Fxxker" lyric printed as Starbucker so I very much doubt the big C word would be printed here. This does however show us what the other lyrics are in the song.



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Not to beat this to death. No pun intented. But I can't find a site on the internet that says the line is kissing cut. Other than this one. Google kissing cut. No matches. It makes no sense. Or even less than the entire songs bizarre lyrics. Even though we all seem to agree it's an outstanding number overall.

I think the anti cvnt folks say it is "kissing cut in can" And in the kissing scene in the movie is in the can, as in done, final take.
And those lyrics from the Exile book can't be trusted, as several other profanities ie. from Rocks Off are changed as well. Or Sanitized is more like it.

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Keno is not the best source for this kind of information.

I still would like to know from Mathijs which source, because there are obviously different statements. And only saying Keno (or whatever source) is "not the best source" has no meaning at all.

I was trying to be kind to Keno--or, really, to people here who use Keno's site seriously. The knowledgeable posters here (use your own judgment to decide on these) are far more reliable.

Okay, I'll take a very careful listen once more and concentrate on the guitars before the jamming-solo. In fact I'm an expert in listening and thus as knwowledgeable as any knowledgeable person here, so that will do the job if there's not any objective and just source (as so often re The Stones).

My source is my ears. Keno's website is just truly dreadful, and I find www.timeisonourside.com much better, even though there are small mistakes and of course there will always be unknowns. Also, people like Majesty have a very good ear and understanding of the '60's period, so there's quite some new information being revealed the last couple of years.

Concerning the two rhythm guitars: it's clearly Keith on both guitars, which include the main open G rythm guitar (capo on second fret), and the counter rhythm played partly with the slide. The second part (partly slide) has all the Ry Cooder-esque open G riffing adopted by Keith, and the slide part is very close to Keith's slide on Happy. Last, it is his clean Tele through Ampeg tone all the way. The guitars seemed to be recorded at Nellcote, one of the very few tracks on Exile that actually was recorded at Exile. Taylor's lead part at the end sounds like a LA Sunset overdub.

Mathijs
ps about cu'n''t: it's either "kissing cvnt in Cannes" or "kissing cut in Cannes", there is clearly no 's' in 'cans'. Listening over and over while isolating the vocals actually makes me start to believe they indeed sing 'kissing cut in Cannes'.


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Good post Mathijs! Yup I agree, i have isolated the lead and backing vocals and it does indeed sound like Kissing cut in cannes.

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My source is my ears.

Concerning the two rhythm guitars: it's clearly Keith on both guitars.

Mathijs
ps about cu'n''t: it's either "kissing cvnt in Cannes" or "kissing cut in Cannes", there is clearly no 's' in 'cans'. Listening over and over while isolating the vocals actually makes me start to believe they indeed sing 'kissing cut in Cannes'.


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I already assumed your source were your ears. My ears say the same as yours: it's simple but effective Keith-like guitar playing, adding to the boogie effect but lacking the excitement that follows when Taylor comes in and you can feel the heat, the lazyness etc. of Le cote d'azur.

It's without any doubt Kissing cut in Canne(s). No S pronounced in Cannes, neither by Mick nor by Keith, so they mean the city of Cannes without any doubt. It's like Tele already said: a hint to movies, without further sexual allusions to what or whoever (unless one takes the Kissing word as such). Sorry people, no double meaning, no Mick-Bianca-Anita hints, no drugged up rock and roll sex. Just an interesting, expressive impression of Le cote d'Azur and its specialties (casinos, richness, movies, heat, slowness etc.) When you, like me, ever were there more than once then you recognize it quite well).

Problem solved.

OK, and what about "skip rope"?
I vote for "slit throat".

ok i listened to it several times - slow, backwards, etc - and i'm pretty sure that paul mccartney is a dead @#$%&.

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OK, and what about "skip rope"?
I vote for "slit throat".

Slip rope. No doubt.

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ok i listened to it several times - slow, backwards, etc - and i'm pretty sure that paul mccartney is a dead @#$%&.

LOL

"It's just some friends of mine and they're busting down the door"

It's about a killer surely
the (judges) hat is black meaning the death sentence
- here's another take on the lyrics....

Little girl can't speak
wound her up, no sleep
Sky Diver inside her, slit throat, stunt flyer.
Wounded lover, got no time on hand.

One last psycho, thrill freak Uncle Sam.
all forbidden, don't you understand.
Judge and Jury walk out hand in hand.

Dietrich Movies, close up boogies,
kissing cuddling cane.
Grotesque music, million dollar sad.
I've Got no tactics, got no time on hand.

Lets do the shuffle, right you mother,
Sinking in the sand.
Fade out freedoms, steaming heat on,
Watch that hat is black.
Finger twitching, got no time on hand.

sorry rumple, but many of "your" lyrics just don't fit at all, and don't sound anything like the recorded version.

I dont care about the lyrics. Casino Boogie has one the greatest Stones grooves on tape.

Can someone just ask Mick or Keith and resolve this. Maybe BV has a take on it.

.... like its important....... just enjoy the 'song', let your mind go. thoughts of meaning is up-tightness,, children ask questions like this.....

Btw, it seems we can believe the texts of lyrics added to officially released albums. There were lyrics on ABB, maybe there will be on new Exile also...

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sorry rumple, but many of "your" lyrics just don't fit at all, and don't sound anything like the recorded version.

mmm Oh well.. close I thought.. they would put the song into some kind of coherent narrative as the killer awaiting his fate.

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Can someone just ask Mick or Keith and resolve this. Maybe BV has a take on it.

BV - god though he is - has no better idea than anyone else what the lyrics are. I expect even Mick has forgotten and would have to rely on downloads from the internet to the telepromter to sing it again.

BV's own interpretation would of course be as welcome as everyone elses.

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Can someone just ask Mick or Keith and resolve this. Maybe BV has a take on it.

Maybe we can ask God Himself for the Only Truth to help us out.

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Le cote d'azur.

It's without any doubt Kissing cut in Canne(s). No S pronounced in Cannes, neither by Mick nor by Keith, so they mean the city of Cannes without any doubt. It's like Tele already said: a hint to movies, without further sexual allusions to what or whoever (unless one takes the Kissing word as such). Sorry people, no double meaning, no Mick-Bianca-Anita hints, no drugged up rock and roll sex. Just an interesting, expressive impression of Le cote d'Azur and its specialties (casinos, richness, movies, heat, slowness etc.) When you, like me, ever were there more than once then you recognize it quite well).

Problem solved.

PROBLEM SOLVED ?????

<<It's without any doubt Kissing cut in Canne(s). No S pronounced in Cannes<<

Hé hé,that's what I said

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. he sings " Cut in Cannes " (The "s" at the end of Cannes doesn't have to be pronounced , you must pronounce it " can " )

[www.ielanguages.com]



I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .

Mister kleemaker............by : "Le cote d'Azur" ,did you mean "La côte d'azur" ?

BTW,do you know what you're talking about ?

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Mister kleemaker............by : "Le cote d'Azur" ,did you mean "La côte d'azur" ?

BTW,do you know what you're talking about ?

You can of course nitpick as for my spelling if you like. As for the accent: I don't know how to type it here. Not important, though. I guess everbody knew what area I meant, don't you think?

I don't understand your BTW-question. Please explain.

As for Canne(s), we were talking about its pronunciation in English/by the Glimmers, not in French, Madame Swaytones.

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As for Canne(s), we were talking about its pronunciation in English/by the Glimmers,not in French, Madame Swaytones.

It's a pity you missed an S

My username is SwayStones



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As for Canne(s), we were talking about its pronunciation in English/by the Glimmers,not in French, Madame Swaytones.

It's a pity you missed an S

My username is SwayStones

And you seem to miss any sense of subtlety and humour, which is even worse.

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And you seem to miss any sense of subtlety and humour, which is even worse.

Wanna bet ?



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And you seem to miss any sense of subtlety and humour, which is even worse.

Wanna bet ?

Show it to me, baby.

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And you seem to miss any sense of subtlety and humour, which is even worse.

Wanna bet ?

Show it to me, baby.

It's up to you .



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And you seem to miss any sense of subtlety and humour, which is even worse.

Wanna bet ?

Show it to me, baby.

It's up to you .

I've shown it already but you didn't 'see' it.

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And you seem to miss any sense of subtlety and humour, which is even worse.

Wanna bet ?

Show it to me, baby.

It's up to you .

I've shown it already but you didn't 'see' it.

Joh, kan je effe ophouden met dit gezeik? Amper 7 weken op IORR en je bent al aan het zieken. Beetje rustig graag.

Mathijs



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