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angee
I really enjoy the lyrics.
And even so, I've thought about if and how they could be rewritten for a female to sing them, sincerely.
Yes, Bette Midler did it but she had Mick for her partner in the number.
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KevinM
Reggae Vs. - Beast of Burden
To my knowledge I've never heard this or known of it's existence.
2LP Keef live solo (Discogs):
TRS - Soul Survivor. GLC Great Live Concerts – KR Solo
Can someone clarify/enlighten?
Or better yet, post the Reggae version if possible?
Thanks in advance for the feedback etc.
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KevinM
Reggae Vs. - Beast of Burden
To my knowledge I've never heard this or known of it's existence.
2LP Keef live solo (Discogs):
TRS - Soul Survivor. GLC Great Live Concerts – KR Solo
Can someone clarify/enlighten?
Or better yet, post the Reggae version if possible?
Thanks in advance for the feedback etc.
Does anyone have info on this? (Reggae version)
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DandelionPowderman
It's up there in top 5 or 6 quality-wise among their best tracks, too, imho.
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DandelionPowderman
It's up there in top 5 or 6 quality-wise among their best tracks, too, imho.
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MonkeyMan2000
It's just one of those tracks...When you think of what makes a song a typical Stones track, it's much easier to pin down songs like Start Me Up and Brown Sugar with Keith's tunings, Charlie's beats etc... But Beast Of Burden is for me one of the best examples that there's this other world of Stones cuts that are much harder to define, but they are as iconic and special. I still haven't heard another band doing such a thing and I don't know what this special ingredient is. Is it the mixture of Country, Soul and Rock or the way the songs are written? What I know is that it took exactly those people to produce such sounds together, it's the combination of all elements.
But yeah, for me when I'm noodling around with the guitar I find it much easier to write a song that resembles Brown Sugar sound wise, than Beast Of Burden for example...
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MonkeyMan2000
It's just one of those tracks...When you think of what makes a song a typical Stones track, it's much easier to pin down songs like Start Me Up and Brown Sugar with Keith's tunings, Charlie's beats etc... But Beast Of Burden is for me one of the best examples that there's this other world of Stones cuts that are much harder to define, but they are as iconic and special. I still haven't heard another band doing such a thing and I don't know what this special ingredient is. Is it the mixture of Country, Soul and Rock or the way the songs are written? What I know is that it took exactly those people to produce such sounds together, it's the combination of all elements.
But yeah, for me when I'm noodling around with the guitar I find it much easier to write a song that resembles Brown Sugar sound wise, than Beast Of Burden for example...
So true. To define a 'typical Stones sound' or 'what makes The Stones sound like the Stones' is a pretty difficult thing to do. The ideas of reducing all that to Keith's Open G riffings sounds like a lazy text book definition, since they are so much more than that... I mean, just look at that top ten in Spotify I roughly described above (that also happens to cover all the Stones songs having more than a million streams). There are only two examples of that 'pure' textbook examples of Stones sound: "Start Me Up" (#5) and "Brown Sugar" (#9). Probably we should add "Satisfaction" (#2), since it provides an original example of riff-based Stones 'signature song'. But then we have songs like "Paint It Black" (#1), "Gimme Shelter" (#3), "Sympathy For The Devil" (#4), "Beast of Burden" (#6), "Angie" (#7), "Wild Horses" (#8) and "You Can't Always Get What You Want" (#10), which all offer a pretty variant of different sounds in a rather wide musical spectrum. But they all sound like The Stones, and taken the popularity and iconic status of them that's the idea people in general associate with the Stones.
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MonkeyMan2000
Another thought: It seems that these other kind of iconic Stones songs like Beast Of Burden, No Use In Crying or Think I'm Going Mad were released after Ronnie arrived. Maybe he was more influential for Mick and Keith than we think? Because even when I can not really define what makes these songs iconic Stones tunes as a whole, some of the elements I find in those tracks are very much present on Ronnie's earlier solo albums: Mystifies Me, I Got Lost When I Found You, Breathe On Me, Fountain Of Love...
Many layered guitars, not defined which one plays lead and which one rhythm, mostly ballads with a soul based groove but often more country flavored melodies (except Fountain Of Love), the way the songs evolve elegantly...those are some of the elements I find quite similar.
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MonkeyMan2000
It really is amazing. But that‘s the beautiful thing about these guys ...they make songs that are fundamentally different but that are still being recognized as somehow belonging to a common „sphere“ and at the same time they make the rigorous and petty focus on genre definition and categorization seem laughable.
The musical equivalent of Keith‘s ‚citizen of the world‘ statement from a couple of days ago :-)
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DandelionPowderman
It's up there in top 5 or 6 quality-wise among their best tracks, too, imho.
What goes for those highly popular slow songs, they seem to have them in rotation, just playing about one of them per gig, since Mick sees that too many slow songs is not good for the flow of the concert (or something). So it is hard for a ballad to get a 'war horse' status...
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DandelionPowderman
It's up there in top 5 or 6 quality-wise among their best tracks, too, imho.
What goes for those highly popular slow songs, they seem to have them in rotation, just playing about one of them per gig, since Mick sees that too many slow songs is not good for the flow of the concert (or something). So it is hard for a ballad to get a 'war horse' status...
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I do believe that security might also be an issue why they do not play too many slow songs. If you dim the lights a bit it seems more difficult to ensure the security. I got this feeling at a concert back in 2006 when they did not play one single ballad. Of course ballads might be harder to present in a stadium but what else would prevent them playing one from time to time? Other artists also Play ballads, and it won't interfere with the flow of the concert.
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DandelionPowderman
I suspect it's mislabeled as "reggae", and that this is the version (Because of the selection of the rest of the songs).
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DandelionPowderman
It's up there in top 5 or 6 quality-wise among their best tracks, too, imho.
What goes for those highly popular slow songs, they seem to have them in rotation, just playing about one of them per gig, since Mick sees that too many slow songs is not good for the flow of the concert (or something). So it is hard for a ballad to get a 'war horse' status...
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I do believe that security might also be an issue why they do not play too many slow songs. If you dim the lights a bit it seems more difficult to ensure the security. I got this feeling at a concert back in 2006 when they did not play one single ballad. Of course ballads might be harder to present in a stadium but what else would prevent them playing one from time to time? Other artists also Play ballads, and it won't interfere with the flow of the concert.