QuoteSpud QuoteDoxa ... Maybe it is a new low - if we forget for the sake of the argument the old GOT LIVE tracks - but I think it is more a case of semantics at this stage. Like Dylan put it, "I used to care, but things have changed"... - Doxa You were the right the first time . .. "..laziness or pragmatic reasoning." I suspect the decision to release the Racket show
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QuoteStoneage ...It was the Steel Wheels press conference... Ps Keith defends his band no matter what. So I wouldn't draw any conclusions from that other than that he is very protective about the band. Ds I think he "defended" the band's business decisions here more than anything else, and the band's business decisions are also his business decisions. He could have b
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QuoteDoxa Quoteretired_dog QuoteDoxa Quotedoitywoik Quotematxil I am happy about Keith's version of Waiting For The Man, though. Maybe it's time for another solo-album? Judging from what one hears, they are already (or still) working on the next Stones album, then there's the upcoming tour(s). I don't see much of a time window for Keith to seriously work on another solo albu
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Quotematxil QuoteDoxa Well, just for fun and for art's sake... [...] Keith taking care of the interest of the hardcore fan base, while Mick takes care of the casual fan interest [...] But probably that's why I am so fascinated by them. - Doxa Interesting text. However, I sometimes wonder whether the Stones might get more general success outside their hardcore fanbase
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Quotewiredallnight Disc 1 seems to be a copy of the official Vintage Winos CD. Disc 2 see It's the incomplete Boston 1993 concert. Conclusion: Bullshit par excellence! I really wonder how they legally can get away with this one...
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Quotegeorgelicks Quotetreaclefingers I find it interesting that with the start of the tour now less than 2 months out, that there's no album promotion or likely singles still to emerge. Was that badly timed? I mean there's nothing quite like a new album and a single on the charts while the band is touring it. It's still on the charts (though falling) in places like Germany but
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Quotekeefriffhards QuoteMadMetaphoricalMax People get in to different songs and albums in a variety of ways, which can be interesting to hear about and identify with, if you are a fan of the band. But when people hate an album, what they have to say about gets boring and repetitive REAL quick. And I've had a lifetime of haters in print or in person telling everyone how much they hate the Rol
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Quotekeefriffhards Quoteretired_dog Quotekeefriffhards Quotematxil Quotededospegajosos QuoteVoodooLounge13 ...Don't think I've listened to it for 2 months now....... Same here.. can’t stand those lifeless drums.. The drums are fine, but I haven't listened to HD the past months either. If I'd want to listen to pop music, I'd listen to the Beatles or ABBA. I am happ
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QuoteDoxa Quotedoitywoik Quotematxil I am happy about Keith's version of Waiting For The Man, though. Maybe it's time for another solo-album? Judging from what one hears, they are already (or still) working on the next Stones album, then there's the upcoming tour(s). I don't see much of a time window for Keith to seriously work on another solo album in anytime soon. Also,
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Quotekeefriffhards Quotematxil Quotededospegajosos QuoteVoodooLounge13 ...Don't think I've listened to it for 2 months now....... Same here.. can’t stand those lifeless drums.. The drums are fine, but I haven't listened to HD the past months either. If I'd want to listen to pop music, I'd listen to the Beatles or ABBA. I am happy about Keith's version of Wait
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Quotekeefriffhards It's telling that we got 83 pages of conversation on this Stones album whereas Crosseyed Heart got over 200 pages of mostly positive conversation from a solo Stone. Says it all really. Simply shows that true greatness does not need many words and endless "try to talk you into it"-rants!
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Quotematxil QuoteBarkerboy2 QuoteSwayed1967 My review of HD. Let me preface it by saying I haven’t listened to it in months. [...] Well that's all just silly isn't it. Just say you're not keen - you don't need to try to convince everyone else by writing 'funny' little captions. Especially when you're on your own :'D He's not on his own. And an
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QuoteVoodooLounge13 Quoteretired_dog QuoteVoodooLounge13 Quotetumblingdice QuoteVoodooLounge13 Could it be the lack of Charlie?? For me, it just doesn't SOUND like a Stones record. Specifically, it doesn't SOUND like the Stones. I hear Mick singing loud and clear, and it's the best he's sounded since B2B IMHO, but the album lacks the distinctive Stones sound.... I am hap
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QuoteVoodooLounge13 Quotetumblingdice QuoteVoodooLounge13 Could it be the lack of Charlie?? For me, it just doesn't SOUND like a Stones record. Specifically, it doesn't SOUND like the Stones. I hear Mick singing loud and clear, and it's the best he's sounded since B2B IMHO, but the album lacks the distinctive Stones sound.... I am happy it's doing so well in the cha
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Quoteharlem shuffle Voodoo Lounge is not a very good album,it,s some good songs on it,but after a while is a bit boring Well, what I observed back then when it was released at numerous parties was that people put the CD in the player 'cause "it's the new Stones!" and stopped playing it after a few songs... It mainly disappeared from the focus of, let's call them, "
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QuoteGerardHennessy QuoteIdorh I still enjoy HD daily. Nice and simple and spontaneous and full of energy. Incredible that I can still experience this new material now at 76. In 1973 I asked in a disco for a Stones song. They started laughing, and said these are old men, and their music is out of date. And then 50 years later on their 80th birthday, this record comes out. It's like a dream.
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Quoteslewan Quoteretired_dog Quoteslewan Quoteds1984 Quoteslewan Quoteds1984 Quoteslewan Quoteds1984 You mean an UNlawful fixation can become lawful? of course not. but once the copyright has expired the question of lawfully recorded or not has become irrelevant. The logic behind this is: Once the copyright has expired, you can no longer infringe it I would say if such a case happened, do
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Quoteslewan Quoteds1984 Quoteslewan Quoteds1984 Quoteslewan Quoteds1984 You mean an UNlawful fixation can become lawful? of course not. but once the copyright has expired the question of lawfully recorded or not has become irrelevant. The logic behind this is: Once the copyright has expired, you can no longer infringe it I would say if such a case happened, doing commercial exploitation o
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Quoteslewan Quoteds1984 Quoteslewan Note that it doesn't matter – (only) for the question of copyright expiration – whether the recording was/is made legally or illegally. Well in case of unlawful fixation the artist has the moral right to prevent the tape to be published. Unlawful fixation is not the point of the law about "copyright duration" By definition an unlawful fi
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QuoteIrix Quoteretired_dog the cited law has absolutely nothing to do with unreleased recordings! The German copyright law has in § 85 (3) a text passage: "If the phonogram has not been published within this period or has been used for authorised communication to the public, the right shall expire 50 years after the production of the phonogram." This could apply to unreleased rec
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QuoteIrix Quoteds1984 You mention 3 cases I only see 2 a) lawfully published b) not lawfully published BUT lawfully communicated to the public There could be a 3rd case c): 'not lawfully published and not lawfully communicated to the public' - because a recording was made, but never used (tape was archived until now). Indeed, there could be a 3rd case as mentioned by you, b
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QuoteIrix Quoteretired_dog It's always the artist/performer who has the final say, not the record company. It probably depends on the contracts or who gave the money or who was in charge for the recordings. Unused recordings could probably be released one time when they're older than 50 years - and then it would be questionable if they still have the copyright. Extension releases
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Quoteslewan QuoteIrix Quoteslewan Anyhow – it makes much more sense to release those deluxe editions you're talking about (or at least some copyright protection release) before the copyright expires to protect the very copyright. Yes: either one time an expensive super deluxe edition (copyright lost after that) - or a low quality release for copyright extension to protect it for 70 y
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QuoteIrix Quoteds1984 So all the unaired recorded show up to 1973 are entering the public domain. I'm not entirely sure about that - at least there might be an expiration after 50 years, but I'm no lawyer. Sony Music seems to be aware of this 50-year rule - but other record companies apparently not. Besides the 27 EU member states, there're ~168 further countries in the
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Sounds like an outtake from Dylan's "Desire" if it wasn't for Keith's vocals... GREAT! Thanks a lot, glimmerman!
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QuoteBig Al Quotepowerage78 Rolling Stones live records illusion Ha! I think I'll stick with the grainy YouTube footage! No, I do jest. I'll have a proper listen when home this evening. I'll reserve genuine judgement, somewhat. However, Keith's rhythm-overdub on Bite Your Head Off is jarringly obvious to my ears, still. I wasn't even the firs to notice and comment on i
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QuoteDoxa QuoteBig Al QuoteStonedRambler QuoteBig Al QuoteStonedRambler Then you must hate Ya-Yas and Love You Live. I don't have an opinion on Love You Live, but I do absolutely love Get Yer Ya'Ya's Out! I'm not insane. Yes, I understand there are supposedly a few subtle overdubs on the latter, but it's minimalistic. Today, the Stones perform very differently, and w
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Quotebitusa2012 QuoteIrix Quotequarkie Pos. 5m:00s - Mick only says that he hopes so, that they can also come to Europe & Germany after the 2024 US-Tour. I thought Germany WAS in Europe :-) Last time I've been there it actually was, but these times you never know 'cause it's a crazy mixed-up world...
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QuoteDoxa QuoteStoneage Having listened through the album a couple of times I still wouldn't rank it higher than any album before 1983 (with an exception for TSMR). But it's maybe the best post 1983 album. Still I'm happy that they finally released a new album after such a long wait. You made it sound like that it is nothing sort of achievement to release the best album for for
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