I think Doxa's perceptions really extend beyond studio output to the way 'Some Girls' actually influenced the Stones in regard to their live sound, and i believe he makes a very strong point. I think it relates to the sound of the 78 and 81-82 tours, the stripped down rock and roll and weaving, so to speak, which he so rightly says is perhaps the last thing the Stones did that real
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Doxa, i believe though that Some Girls was pretty much a one off, it really didn't set the ball rolling like Beggars Banquet - Let It Bleed - Sticky Fingers - Exile On Main Street. The follow up Emotional Rescue like you say was mediocre, and Tattoo You was primarily a collection of 70s outtakes, a number of which were originally recorded well before Some Girls, and could still have been rel
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Quotekleermaker I won't spoil all the fun here. Just some questions to Doxa and Tele. Doxa, you said: "Let's just say that it is the BEGGARS BANQUET of the 70's - it saved their career and gave them a new life." Could/Would you explain that and what "new life" do you exactly mean? And how long did it last? Any opinions on the title of this album?
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Quotedrbryant I agree that it is a perfect album. The chances I would make to the other big four: LIB: HTW replaces "Country Honk" on Side 1. "Country Honk" moves to side 2, right before YCAGWYW. SF: Remix "I Got The Blues", to get a cleaner sound consistent with the rest of the album. Exile: Remix "All Down the Line" Yes, it's tracks l
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QuoteBig Al I agree with Elmo and Edward regarding the Who. I, too, find their albums to be patchy - Who's Next being the exception. The 2-Disc 'Ultimate Who' compilation would do a reasonable job in helping one compile all of the Who's truly defining moments. Personally, I still think the Who were at their best during the mid-late 60's as a singles-act: Can't Explai
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QuoteElmo Lewis Pretty much every Prince and Who album (excepting Who's Next) contain one really great song and tons of crap. So I'll say "It's Hard" by The Who. "Eminence Front" is great, the rest not so much. I'm not sure about the Who albums being crap, but they aren't the most comfortable listen for me, either. I think that's partly to do
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SONGS FOR DRELLA, the album reflecting the life of Andy Warhol shouldn't be forgotten either. I think it's the strongest of Lou's late eighties/early nineties trilogy of albums NEW YORK/SONGS FOR DRELLA/MAGIC AND LOSS. It certainly isn't as accessible as NEW YORK, but i feel it has more to offer over the longer period. MAGIC AND LOSS shares its slightly more sombre mood (at le
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Quotefranzk Sympathy For The Devil and this: Interesting! Another track that reminds me a little of the opening to the live 69 version of 'Sympathy For The Devil', is Bob Dylan's studio version of 'Just Like Tom Thumbs Blues' off HIGHWAY 61 REVISTED.
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Free 'All Right Now' and the Steve Miller Band 'Rock N Me' share the same riff
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or perhaps parts of songs that remind you of other songs. I was listening to George Harrison's 'I Dig Love' today, after devoting a great deal of time to Lou Reed's BERLIN album, and i noticed the drum fills at the beginning of 'I Dig Love' and 'How Do You Think It Feels' are rather similar. In fact i even think the melodies/song structure in these two s
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It's not a stylistic issue though, Dandelion. It's more a matter of substance.
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The problem i have with 'Pretty Beat Up', is it just isn't very clearly defined with regards to what it presents, as a song. It is sort of like a jam session with a few random words/phrases thrown in for good measure. Having said that i am sure the Stones did have a pre-conceived notion of what they wanted to achieve, but it just isn't meticulously enough conceived, to achieve
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Quoteab Lou a Bowie clone? Even Bowie would find that laughable. Bowie referred to Lou as The Master when they were making Transformer. No, of course he's not, but Lou needed Bowie as a way of gaining commercial recognition, and had Bowie (and Ronson) not been involved with the making of TRANSFORMER, the album would not have gained the recognition it had, subsequently. The truth is B
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Quoteab QuoteEdward Twining QuoteChris Fountain QuoteTeddyB1018 Chris, this is not Hunter and Wagner but a famous live in the studio radio broadcast Lou did with The Tots that has been released many times. It's great though. Thanks for the correction. I was only going by the YT post and not my instincts. Still a great performance. I happen to think The Tots more intimate playing complim
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QuoteChris Fountain QuoteTeddyB1018 Chris, this is not Hunter and Wagner but a famous live in the studio radio broadcast Lou did with The Tots that has been released many times. It's great though. Thanks for the correction. I was only going by the YT post and not my instincts. Still a great performance. I happen to think The Tots more intimate playing complimented Lou's true vision
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Quotecoffeepotman There is a run of albums from Sally Can't Dance through Street Hassle excluding MMM that is just sensational. I've always loved these albums, especially Street Hassle. For me it just doesn't get much better in his career. The Blue Mask is very good but New Sensations and Mistrial I don't like at all. I rarely listen to The Bells or Growing up in Publi
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QuoteRollingFreak You can't really compare anything to Berlin. IMO (and it sounds like its yours too) thats his peak musically and vocally. His voice is just so perfect on that album (he really is singing a lot of the time) mixed with his just stone cold speaking voice on Sad Song which is exactly what those songs needed. And the oompf that Ezrin gave those melodies is perfect. The songs pop
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I agree RollingFreak. It will be interesting, however, to see with his passing, and also with the passing of time, how his career will be viewed. Will TRANSFORMER still be the Lou Reed album most lovingly associated with him? I think perhaps it will be, because of the Bowie connection, and the fact that it was perhaps the first (and maybe the only) time, Lou had positioned himself firmly in the m
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QuoteRollingFreak Spot on analysis of exactly what I think as well. Magic And Loss is the one album I still haven't heard yet on my iTunes (but I have heard it before). I've been avoiding it because I remember it boring me last listen through, but now that its the sole album I haven't heard since his death (still feels weird to write that) I figure I will end up listening to it t
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QuoteRollingFreak Would love to know anyone else's thoughts on this album, just because its fresh in my mind. And hopefully people didn't find it annoying I did a track by track analysis lol! The thread has been going for awhile now so I assumed its kind of free game for anything Lou Reed at this point. Yes, pretty accurate summary, RollingFreak. MISTRIAL is mildly infectious thro
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QuoteDoomandGloom Quoteseitan Quotestewedandkeefed I think there is a case to be made that of all the sixties icons that made music in the 1980s, Lou Reed had the best decade. Growing Up In Public may not be that great but beginning with The Blue Mask (my favourite song is The Gun on that record), Lou had a great run (Mistrial excepted). Agreed Fernando Saunders makes Legendary Hearts sound great
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QuoteRollingFreak I feel the same about Ecstasy, although I don't love it as much as Twilight. He went a bit more distortion-y with Ecstasy, which was really cool to hear, and sounded a bit more like classic "I don't give a @#$%&" Lou Reed. Kind of similar to Neil Young, but in the way that only Lou could do it. And a ton of quality songs there: Modern Dance, the title tra
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Quotestonehearted I never had a problem with Lou Reed's vocals during the periods mentioned above by some posters, because he was never much of a singer to begin with, at leastjavascript:editor_tools_handle_right() never in terms of technique. As a poet, he was always more effective with the "spoken word" type of "singing" anyway, as in Wild Side. He was always more
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QuoteRollingFreak Definitely. Although whats funny is you mention those songs as indispensible (and not that I disagree with you at all), but I would also have to add The Day John Kennedy Died and Average Man from that album as well as some of my favorites. John Kennedy is just so minimal yet really interesting song, and Average Guy is kind of a throwaway but very funnily great to me. Its nothing
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I agree completely, RollingFreak. I think THE BLUE MASK marked the change in Lou from his music appearing rather excessive, and even a touch overblown, within his late seventies output to appearing more steady and focused, within a more stripped down set up. By the time of the recording of THE BLUE MASK, Lou had dropped a lot of the more flamboyant aspects to his musical sound, just like perso
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QuoteRollingFreak Absolutely. Except I wouldn't say his voice hadn't struck me for that long. Yes, there was that decade from 84-94 where he was pretty flat and dry and you can hear it in stuff like New York, Drella or the VU reunion. More than ever, it feels like he's reading and not singing. But with Set The Twilight Reeling and all the way up until at least the Berlin album pe
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QuoteRollingFreak I didn't see the VU reunion although I just heard the album last week. I would agree it does sound like there's something missing from it. And I mean they basically played everything you'd want, with all the well known stuff plus some great rarities like The Gift, I Can't Stand It, Real Good Time Together. But for some reason the whole thing just sounds... of
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Quotetreaclefingers QuoteEdward Twining Sorry to say McCartney's voice is going. Yeah it's too bad. I give him credit though for not dialing it back a bit, and going with safer material. Not all Beatles/Wings songs are hard to sing but he picks tough ones in concert. He needs to listen back to recordings of some of his live shows though...I'm sure he doesn't want to co
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Quotestonehearted When I first got the DVD when it came out, it made me realize for the first time that Lou was really starting to look old. His face was weathered and his voice sounded a bit worn and shaky, but I did have a bit of a chuckle over the leather pants and thought how there weren't any other 65-year-olds I could think of who could wear them and still seem cool. Old or not, Lou
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I think this is a great performance!
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