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Re: Undercover complete recording sessions
Posted by: Greg44 ()
Date: March 17, 2017 14:08

What has happened to these two of dennycranium post:

Files (680 MB total)
RMP 37 - (cool smiley Undercover Alternate Takes 1982-1983

TTTDE_-_ZIG_003_Undercover_Und_Schweinegeil.zip


Transfer dissappeared and was valid till March 23

Re: Undercover complete recording sessions
Posted by: detroitken ()
Date: March 17, 2017 14:08

Thanx to all for this..really dig the countryish SWH....

Re: Undercover complete recording sessions
Posted by: dennycranium ()
Date: March 17, 2017 14:52

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Greg44
What has happened to these two of dennycranium post:

Files (680 MB total)
RMP 37 - (cool smiley Undercover Alternate Takes 1982-1983

TTTDE_-_ZIG_003_Undercover_Und_Schweinegeil.zip


Transfer dissappeared and was valid till March 23

[we.tl]

Re: Undercover complete recording sessions
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: March 17, 2017 15:20

Quote
Greg44

What has happened to these two of dennycranium post:

They're also here: [iorr.org] .

Re: Undercover complete recording sessions
Posted by: Honestman ()
Date: March 17, 2017 19:02

About the mysterious "Virchov" tape, could it be Christoph Virchow mentioned by F.Aeppli in his list of thanks here below



just wonderin'...

HMN

Re: Undercover complete recording sessions
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: March 17, 2017 19:25

Nice find HM!
I knew it spelled Virchow but I thought the title of the tape was a joke referring to this guy : [en.wikipedia.org]

You know a man "known for his advancement of public health" makes you immediately think of Keef and Mick, right... grinning smiley



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Re: Undercover complete recording sessions
Posted by: blakeeik ()
Date: March 18, 2017 02:37

Quote
Honestman
About the mysterious "Virchov" tape, could it be Christoph Virchow mentioned by F.Aeppli in his list of thanks here below



just wonderin'...

Best theory I've heard

Re: Undercover complete recording sessions
Posted by: gotdablouse ()
Date: March 18, 2017 02:52

Good find indeed, maybe he'll pop up (or already has!) one day here ;-)

Spent some quality time looking at 0.414A in The Ultimate Guide and realized there's still a lot of stuff circulating out there ;-) "XXX" (an "explicit" version of Pretty Beat Up apparently) or "Breakin'" (we have one from the TIS sessions and some stuff recorded outside the studio in 1985 I think ah and one one on "High Temperature" too) sung by Mick to name just two !

@dcba - yeah or VL when things started off nicely in Barbados and ended with Mick refusing to go to LA (or leaving early) for the mixing because Was and Keith were making it sound "too old" or B2B after starting things out nicely the two of them in NY and then Mick sulking in LA (per Old Gods Almost Dead). SOS ;-)

@NeddieFlanders - thanks for pointing this out, "What I Am Saying Is True" did sound vaguely familiar. Come to think of it "Cookin'Up" didn't resurface in better quality in the bkeys samples or Foxes, unlike the other two unreleased "rockers", "Stop That" and "Eliza". BTW I finally heard "Come on Eliza, come on child" in the lyrics, still can't hear "Upchink" ! Apparently that title comes from Bill's book. Need to go dig it out someday.

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IORR Links : Essential Studio Outtakes CDs : Audio - History of Rarest Outtakes : Audio



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Date: March 19, 2017 14:19

 



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Date: March 19, 2017 15:47

 



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Re: Undercover complete recording sessions
Posted by: Monsoon Ragoon ()
Date: March 19, 2017 17:25

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blueswithafeeling
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Monsoon Ragoon
The "medley" snippets of Identification, Feel On Baby, All The Way Down etc. are also first releases on silver I think.

I do not believe that these "Sweet Black Angel" CDs are "silvers" or pressed CDs. They are for sure not on silver but on black discs. (Therefore the label name!) And it is not possible to let press 50 discs for a reasonable price. If you let press discs usually 500 pieces is the minimum quantity you have to take. More likely is that they are simply made on black CDRs: [www.amazon.de]

No offence intended, but this is a pretty bald statement for a man that has never seen a SBA release as it seems. One of my "dealers" in Spain says SBA are factory pressed (he doesn't say they're SILVER, though). In his list he lists also CDR issues, but as "CDR" not as "CD". SBA is stated as "CD". The first one I will get is this Undercover set. By the way, it is actually impossibly to sell 500 or 1000 copies of a bootleg cd release today, even if it is an innovative outtakes collection.



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Re: Undercover complete recording sessions
Posted by: vancouver ()
Date: March 19, 2017 18:50

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blueswithafeeling
Many thanks Blake for the Virchow tape. The recording however is heavily clipped. So I tried to restore the clipped audio with Adobe Audition.
Here an example of the clipped original:


And here the result:


I also connected tracks 5 and 6 (What I Am Sayin' Is True Part 1 and 2) because they belong together. It is just cut and started again, the end of track 5 is repeated at the the beginning of track 6.

Here is the reult if someone wants it: [we.tl]


thank you !

Re: Undercover complete recording sessions
Posted by: gotdablouse ()
Date: March 19, 2017 18:52

@blueswithafeeling - thanks !

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IORR Links : Essential Studio Outtakes CDs : Audio - History of Rarest Outtakes : Audio

Re: Undercover complete recording sessions
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: March 19, 2017 19:20

Imho what this Virchow tape needs is a drastic re-EQ'ing. As is it sounds very muddy and dull but with the highs boosted and the lows cut off the music suddenly comes to life.
If someone want to give it a try... otherwise wait for the inevitable upcoming DAC boot!

 
Date: March 19, 2017 21:58

 



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Re: Undercover complete recording sessions
Posted by: rskinno ()
Date: March 20, 2017 01:19

Quote
dcba
Imho what this Virchow tape needs is a drastic re-EQ'ing. As is it sounds very muddy and dull but with the highs boosted and the lows cut off the music suddenly comes to life.
If someone want to give it a try... otherwise wait for the inevitable upcoming DAC boot!

Less EQ comes through the noise removal

[we.tl] more Power

Re: Undercover complete recording sessions
Posted by: Monsoon Ragoon ()
Date: March 20, 2017 20:08

I got the 5CD/1DVDR set. Beautiful, CDs are most probably factory pressed and black on both sides. I've never seen something like this before. The DVD ist a "R", but profesionally made, it has the apple picture (from the Undercover innersleeve) on it. Two booklets with lots of details. Haven't listened to it yet, but this seems to be a must. You cannot download something like this. How to get: www.rockmusicbay.com. - Update: all 5 CDs do not play on my CD system (which accepted EVERY CD for 8 years), I use the BR player. And it seems like they didn't always use the best possible sources, unfortunately. Many takes are just good-very good and/or with much hiss. Maybe not the classic release we expected, but surely usefull release.



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Re: Undercover complete recording sessions
Posted by: U2Stonesfan ()
Date: March 22, 2017 02:03

Good stuff! Thanks for sharing!

Re: Undercover complete recording sessions
Posted by: stonesmuziekfan ()
Date: March 22, 2017 12:59

I have been looking for this 5CD+DVD from above that looked familiar but could not find it in my files. While doing this I did bump into this radio show.

Bestanden (299 MB totaal)
1983.11.30 NBC Radio The Source, Uncovered Undercover.rar
Wordt verwijderd op
29 maart 2017
Download-link
[we.tl]

enjoy

Re: Undercover complete recording sessions
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: March 22, 2017 13:15

Quote
stonesmuziekfan

I have been looking for this 5CD+DVD from above that looked familiar but could not find it in my files.

Probably because it's new -- [Bootlegpedia.com] says Release-date: 13-Mar-2017 ....



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Re: Undercover complete recording sessions
Posted by: gotdablouse ()
Date: March 22, 2017 13:38

Quote
stonesmuziekfan
I have been looking for this 5CD+DVD from above that looked familiar but could not find it in my files. While doing this I did bump into this radio show.

Bestanden (299 MB totaal)
1983.11.30 NBC Radio The Source, Uncovered Undercover.rar
Wordt verwijderd op
29 maart 2017
Download-link
[we.tl]

enjoy

Cool, thanks ! Would have loved to hear that back in the day, the first Stones album I waited for !

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IORR Links : Essential Studio Outtakes CDs : Audio - History of Rarest Outtakes : Audio

Re: Undercover complete recording sessions
Posted by: Monsoon Ragoon ()
Date: March 22, 2017 13:46

Quote
Irix
Quote
stonesmuziekfan

I have been looking for this 5CD+DVD from above that looked familiar but could not find it in my files.

Probably because it's new -- [Bootlegedia.com] says Release-date: 13-Mar-2017 ....

Yes, released last week. Great collection, but bad pressing (these 5 CDs are the only ever CDs that my CD player ignored). See my comments above.

Re: Undercover complete recording sessions
Posted by: gotdablouse ()
Date: March 22, 2017 15:58

Quote
gotdablouse
Quote
stonesmuziekfan
I have been looking for this 5CD+DVD from above that looked familiar but could not find it in my files. While doing this I did bump into this radio show.

Bestanden (299 MB totaal)
1983.11.30 NBC Radio The Source, Uncovered Undercover.rar
Wordt verwijderd op
29 maart 2017
Download-link
[we.tl]

enjoy

Cool, thanks ! Would have loved to hear that back in the day, the first Stones album I waited for !

Track 16 : the interviewer says that "Too Tough" is his favorite track and that it reminds him of how the Stones used to sound 10 years ago...Mick just says yes, great hard rock style guitar solo by Ron...No info volunteered about Cellophane Trouts ;-)

It's also weird how he says that Keith sings quite a lot on Feel on Baby but that you can't tell their vocals apart most of the time...I think I can !

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IORR Links : Essential Studio Outtakes CDs : Audio - History of Rarest Outtakes : Audio



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Re: Undercover complete recording sessions
Posted by: Monsoon Ragoon ()
Date: March 22, 2017 22:45

Just "watched" the new 1982 rehearsals/song writing sessions on YouTube. Really interesting.

DEAR BOOTLEGGERS. Please release this 30 min, of unique material, maybe together with the song writing sessions from early 1985. The latter have only appeared on Shaved Disc (at wrong speed?) and Weeping Goat more than 20 years ago. Both tapes together fill one CD.
Or release a new Europe 82 concert (Cologne II complete?) and add the tape as bonus.



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Re: Undercover complete recording sessions
Posted by: stonesmuziekfan ()
Date: March 23, 2017 11:29

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Monsoon Ragoon
Just "watched" the new 1982 rehearsals/song writing sessions on YouTube. Really interesting.
link(s) please

Re: Undercover complete recording sessions
Posted by: Monsoon Ragoon ()
Date: March 23, 2017 11:57

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stonesmuziekfan
Quote
Monsoon Ragoon
Just "watched" the new 1982 rehearsals/song writing sessions on YouTube. Really interesting.
link(s) please

Search for "Virchoc tape" (not Virchow!). I only found it randomly.



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Re: Undercover complete recording sessions
Posted by: gotdablouse ()
Date: March 23, 2017 12:12

Ok, found it...nothing to "watch", it's just the merged tracks posted above by blake : [www.youtube.com]

@blueswithafeeling - thanks again for the good work done on the raw source !

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IORR Links : Essential Studio Outtakes CDs : Audio - History of Rarest Outtakes : Audio



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Re: Undercover complete recording sessions
Posted by: Monsoon Ragoon ()
Date: March 23, 2017 12:34

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gotdablouse
Ok, found it...nothing to "watch", it's just the merged tracks posted above by blake : [www.youtube.com]

@blueswithafeeling - thanks again for the good work done on the raw source !

"Watched" because it's technically a video. Of course the sessions wasn't filmed!



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Re: Undercover complete recording sessions
Posted by: Monsoon Ragoon ()
Date: March 29, 2017 13:38

Anyone compared the 5CD with DAC releases etc. yet? I still haven't really listened to it, need to buy an electric wire to connect the BR player with the boxes.



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Re: Undercover complete recording sessions
Posted by: marko ()
Date: April 3, 2017 09:15

Anyone for a download?

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