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This is not artwork, but scans of the newspapers
This is the material for the future 12 Jap boots that won't fail to appear later this month! Like I said : a free tape PLUS free elements of artwork, ain't it great to be a Jap bootlegger these days. >
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listen to the screaming guy right at the beginning of brown sugar. it must be the DAC tape, unfortunately.
The speed can be adjusted so that is no indication. It's the drastical bootleggers remastering/compression that make it sound different. Listen to markers like tapeslurs (for instance in Angie during the "Angie, I still love you baby"line). Same tape, different mastering.
www.rsundercover.eu
But does it sound better?
That's the only thing that matters to me, LOL!!!!
(although I love to read these discussions between experts!)
.
Chris from Belgium
And that's it?
Thanks for the answer!!!!
Chris from Belgium
come on, cool down ;-)
I only listened to the beginning of the concert but there was no doubt.
too bad, but a 3rd tape of one of the same show is a horrible thought when you still have some missing ones on that tour.
New link, valid until October 20th in my first post, and here:
[we.tl]
Chris from Belgium
Just what the doctor said, he, he!!! Hope you recover well Rick!!!
Thanks Chris for making feel good our camarat!
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Re-post ROLLING STONES 1973-09-03 Eisstadion, Mannheim, West Germany on Wetransfer
Posted by:
coowouters
()
Date: October 5, 2014 20:41
NEW Link valid until October 20th:
[we.tl]
This is all the artwork I can find that matches the discs:
Chris from Belgium
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2014-10-13 15:36 by coowouters.
[we.tl]
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dcba
ROLLING STONES
1973-09-03
Eisstadion
Mannheim
West Germany
AUDIENCE RECORDING
REEL 2 REEL Master>1st GEN REEL>DAT1>CDR>EAC>WAV>TLH>FLAC>DIME
"Master Reel, was erased by the Taper himself....1st gens are all that exist"-HB
Recorded by "HB"
Recorded with;TELEFUNKEN MAGNETOPHON 300 TS>GRUNDIG Microphone
From the collection of; "Per-Erik"
Uploaded by; "Lucifer Burns"
Setlist
DISC 1
1. Introduction
2. BROWN SUGAR
3. BITCH
4. GIMME SHELTER
5. HAPPY
6. TUMBLING DICE
7. 100 YEARS AGO
8. STAR @#$%&
9. ANGIE
10. SWEET VIRGINA
11. YOU CAN'T ALWAYS GET WHAT YOU WANT
DISC 2
1. DANCING WITH MR. D
2. DOO DOO DOO (HEARTBREAKER)
3. MIDNIGHT RAMBLER
4. Band Members Introduced
5. HONY TONK WOMEN
6. ALL DOWN THE LINE
7. RIP THIS JOINT
8. JUMPING JACK FLASH
9. STREET FIGHTING MAN
Musicians;
MICK JAGGER- Vocals
KEITH RICHARDS- Guitars
MICK TAYLOR- Guitars
BILL WYMAN- Bass
CHARLIE WATTS- Drums
BILLY PRESTON- Organ/Clavinet/Backing Vocals
STEVE MADAIO- Trumpet/Flugelhorn
BOBBY KEYS- Saxophone
[www.dimeadozen.org]
This is all the artwork I can find that matches the discs:
Chris from Belgium
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2014-10-13 15:36 by coowouters.
Re: ROLLING STONES 1973-09-03 Eisstadion, Mannheim, West Germany on Wetransfer
Posted by:
glimmerkkp
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Date: October 5, 2014 23:21
Re: ROLLING STONES 1973-09-03 Eisstadion, Mannheim, West Germany on Wetransfer
Posted by:
mickjerome
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Date: October 5, 2014 23:23
Merci Chris!
Re: ROLLING STONES 1973-09-03 Eisstadion, Mannheim, West Germany on Wetransfer
Posted by:
Stoner72
()
Date: October 5, 2014 23:33
Thanks for sharing, Chris!
I was gong to have pizza for supper, but I think I'll have this instead!
I was gong to have pizza for supper, but I think I'll have this instead!
Re: ROLLING STONES 1973-09-03 Eisstadion, Mannheim, West Germany on Wetransfer
Posted by:
dcba
()
Date: October 6, 2014 00:08
The tape clarity and the balance of the two guitars is quite stunning... for an amateur recording made from the pit in 1973 of course!
We should all thank Luciferburns at DIme for sharing this gem... and enabling the Jap bootleggers to make a decent month of October!
Another guy at Dime provided some press clippings which will make a perfect artwork. A free tape plus some pre-made artwork, ain't it good to be a bootlegger in 2014!
For the front cover they just gonna have to find a nice pic of Mick... taken in 1969 70 or 75! ><
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-10-06 00:16 by dcba.
We should all thank Luciferburns at DIme for sharing this gem... and enabling the Jap bootleggers to make a decent month of October!
Another guy at Dime provided some press clippings which will make a perfect artwork. A free tape plus some pre-made artwork, ain't it good to be a bootlegger in 2014!
For the front cover they just gonna have to find a nice pic of Mick... taken in 1969 70 or 75! >
<Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-10-06 00:16 by dcba.
Re: ROLLING STONES 1973-09-03 Eisstadion, Mannheim, West Germany on Wetransfer
Posted by:
Quique-stone
()
Date: October 6, 2014 07:12
Many thanks Chris for bringing this recording here!
Also thansk to HB, Per-Erik and Luciferburns!
Also thansk to HB, Per-Erik and Luciferburns!
Re: ROLLING STONES 1973-09-03 Eisstadion, Mannheim, West Germany on Wetransfer
Posted by:
dcba
()
Date: October 6, 2014 10:25
Artwork :
[dl.dropboxusercontent.com]
(link borrowed from the Dime page).
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-10-06 11:00 by dcba.
[dl.dropboxusercontent.com]
(link borrowed from the Dime page).
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-10-06 11:00 by dcba.
Re: ROLLING STONES 1973-09-03 Eisstadion, Mannheim, West Germany on Wetransfer
Posted by:
maremma
()
Date: October 6, 2014 12:32
Un grand merci
Re: ROLLING STONES 1973-09-03 Eisstadion, Mannheim, West Germany on Wetransfer
Posted by:
Keessie
()
Date: October 6, 2014 18:14
This is not artwork, but scans of the newspapers
Re: ROLLING STONES 1973-09-03 Eisstadion, Mannheim, West Germany on Wetransfer
Posted by:
keith56
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Date: October 6, 2014 18:40
Thank you Chris
Re: ROLLING STONES 1973-09-03 Eisstadion, Mannheim, West Germany on Wetransfer
Posted by:
detroitken
()
Date: October 6, 2014 18:48
Thanx Chris
Re: ROLLING STONES 1973-09-03 Eisstadion, Mannheim, West Germany on Wetransfer
Posted by:
ade
()
Date: October 6, 2014 20:03
thanks as usual chris
Re: ROLLING STONES 1973-09-03 Eisstadion, Mannheim, West Germany on Wetransfer
Posted by:
dcba
()
Date: October 6, 2014 21:36
Quote
Keessie
This is not artwork, but scans of the newspapers
This is the material for the future 12 Jap boots that won't fail to appear later this month! Like I said : a free tape PLUS free elements of artwork, ain't it great to be a Jap bootlegger these days. >
<Re: ROLLING STONES 1973-09-03 Eisstadion, Mannheim, West Germany on Wetransfer
Posted by:
dcba
()
Date: October 6, 2014 21:43
And this version of GS is interesting : Taylor refreshes the arrangement by playing some "jaguar roars" with his wah pedal during the Richards/Keys intro.
Taylor did it again at the 1st Wembley show (Sept.7) but not in Cologne (I checked).
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2014-10-06 23:37 by dcba.
Taylor did it again at the 1st Wembley show (Sept.7) but not in Cologne (I checked).
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2014-10-06 23:37 by dcba.
Re: ROLLING STONES 1973-09-03 Eisstadion, Mannheim, West Germany on Wetransfer
Posted by:
Britney
()
Date: October 7, 2014 02:10
It's actually the same tape that was released as DAC-072, EXM-008A/B and SODD 060-61 but possibly from a lower generation copy and without the horrible bootleggers remastering.
www.rsundercover.eu
www.rsundercover.eu
Re: ROLLING STONES 1973-09-03 Eisstadion, Mannheim, West Germany on Wetransfer
Posted by:
dcba
()
Date: October 7, 2014 10:27
I really don't think so :
it can't be the one used by DAC as it's MUCH clearer and taped from a much closer position.
It's close to the OBR tape but there's none of the ugly screams that mar the 1st verse of GS... Plus it runs at the right speed while the OBR runs too fast.
it can't be the one used by DAC as it's MUCH clearer and taped from a much closer position.
It's close to the OBR tape but there's none of the ugly screams that mar the 1st verse of GS... Plus it runs at the right speed while the OBR runs too fast.
Re: ROLLING STONES 1973-09-03 Eisstadion, Mannheim, West Germany on Wetransfer
Posted by:
falo01
()
Date: October 7, 2014 10:38
Quote
dcba
I really don't think so :
it can't be the one used by DAC as it's MUCH clearer and taped from a much closer position.
It's close to the OBR tape but there's none of the ugly screams that mar the 1st verse of GS... Plus it runs at the right speed while the OBR runs too fast.
listen to the screaming guy right at the beginning of brown sugar. it must be the DAC tape, unfortunately.
Re: ROLLING STONES 1973-09-03 Eisstadion, Mannheim, West Germany on Wetransfer
Posted by:
Britney
()
Date: October 7, 2014 10:51
Quote
dcba
I really don't think so :
it can't be the one used by DAC as it's MUCH clearer and taped from a much closer position.
It's close to the OBR tape but there's none of the ugly screams that mar the 1st verse of GS... Plus it runs at the right speed while the OBR runs too fast.
The speed can be adjusted so that is no indication. It's the drastical bootleggers remastering/compression that make it sound different. Listen to markers like tapeslurs (for instance in Angie during the "Angie, I still love you baby"line). Same tape, different mastering.
www.rsundercover.eu
Re: ROLLING STONES 1973-09-03 Eisstadion, Mannheim, West Germany on Wetransfer
Posted by:
dcba
()
Date: October 7, 2014 20:26
It's hard to argue with the almight Falo...
Plus I just noticed the mike noise at the beginning of Mr. D is on the HB tape and the DAC boot.
Mea culpa!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-10-07 20:36 by dcba.
Plus I just noticed the mike noise at the beginning of Mr. D is on the HB tape and the DAC boot.
Mea culpa!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-10-07 20:36 by dcba.
Re: ROLLING STONES 1973-09-03 Eisstadion, Mannheim, West Germany on Wetransfer
Posted by:
coowouters
()
Date: October 7, 2014 21:01
Quote
dcba
It's hard to argue with the almight Falo...
Plus I just noticed the mike noise at the beginning of Mr. D is on the HB tape and the DAC boot.
Mea culpa!
But does it sound better?
That's the only thing that matters to me, LOL!!!!
(although I love to read these discussions between experts!)
.
Chris from Belgium
Re: ROLLING STONES 1973-09-03 Eisstadion, Mannheim, West Germany on Wetransfer
Posted by:
dcba
()
Date: October 7, 2014 22:44
Chris :
imo the HB torrent sounds very nice, very "live".
Now take the DAC boot, give it the EQ treatment it deserves (it sounds vrey dull and muddy) and you get sth that sounds nice too.
Voila!
imo the HB torrent sounds very nice, very "live".
Now take the DAC boot, give it the EQ treatment it deserves (it sounds vrey dull and muddy) and you get sth that sounds nice too.
Voila!
Re: ROLLING STONES 1973-09-03 Eisstadion, Mannheim, West Germany on Wetransfer
Posted by:
coowouters
()
Date: October 7, 2014 22:55
Quote
dcba
Chris :
imo the HB torrent sounds very nice, very "live".
Now take the DAC boot, give it the EQ treatment it deserves (it sounds vrey dull and muddy) and you get sth that sounds nice too.
Voila!
And that's it?
Thanks for the answer!!!!
Chris from Belgium
Re: ROLLING STONES 1973-09-03 Eisstadion, Mannheim, West Germany on Wetransfer
Posted by:
falo01
()
Date: October 8, 2014 00:10
Quote
dcba
It's hard to argue with the almight Falo...
come on, cool down ;-)
I only listened to the beginning of the concert but there was no doubt.
too bad, but a 3rd tape of one of the same show is a horrible thought when you still have some missing ones on that tour.
Re: ROLLING STONES 1973-09-03 Eisstadion, Mannheim, West Germany on Wetransfer
Posted by:
stonesmuziekfan
()
Date: October 8, 2014 03:09
For what it's worth
the SODD version
1973.09.03 [SODD_060-061]_Mannheim_On_Ice.rar [www.filefactory.com]
the SODD version
1973.09.03 [SODD_060-061]_Mannheim_On_Ice.rar [www.filefactory.com]
Re: ROLLING STONES 1973-09-03 Eisstadion, Mannheim, West Germany on Wetransfer
Posted by:
dph
()
Date: October 8, 2014 03:37
Thanks for sharing. Nice to see something different. Agree that this is definitely the same recording as the DAC release and different to the OBR release. There is also a supposed low gen version of the DAC recording but this is better than that or DAC. I think DAC overdid it with their EQ but they undoubtedly had a worse generation recording to work with.
I like the live versions of some of the Goat's Head Soup songs. They have an edge lacking from the studio versions. Love the jams on 100 Years Ago and Heartbreaker.
I like the live versions of some of the Goat's Head Soup songs. They have an edge lacking from the studio versions. Love the jams on 100 Years Ago and Heartbreaker.
Re: ROLLING STONES 1973-09-03 Eisstadion, Mannheim, West Germany on Wetransfer
Posted by:
dcarey
()
Date: October 9, 2014 03:43
I grabbed this the other day, awesome share, many thanks.
Re: ROLLING STONES 1973-09-03 Eisstadion, Mannheim, West Germany on Wetransfer
Posted by:
vox12string
()
Date: October 13, 2014 12:27
Could someone please repost this. I've just come out of hospital after having a a small stroke & this is just what I need to recover, thanks
Re: ROLLING STONES 1973-09-03 Eisstadion, Mannheim, West Germany on Wetransfer
Posted by:
coowouters
()
Date: October 13, 2014 15:36
Quote
vox12string
Could someone please repost this. I've just come out of hospital after having a a small stroke & this is just what I need to recover, thanks
New link, valid until October 20th in my first post, and here:
[we.tl]
Chris from Belgium
Re: ROLLING STONES 1973-09-03 Eisstadion, Mannheim, West Germany on Wetransfer
Posted by:
Quique-stone
()
Date: October 13, 2014 17:49
Quote
coowoutersQuote
vox12string
Could someone please repost this. I've just come out of hospital after having a a small stroke & this is just what I need to recover, thanks
New link, valid until October 20th in my first post, and here:
[we.tl]
Just what the doctor said, he, he!!! Hope you recover well Rick!!!
Thanks Chris for making feel good our camarat!
Re: Re-post ROLLING STONES 1973-09-03 Eisstadion, Mannheim, West Germany on Wetransfer
Posted by:
vox12string
()
Date: October 16, 2014 05:49
Thanks guys, listening to this as we speak. Recovering nicely thank you, the problem was the right carotid artery which was 90%(!) blocked. Had the operation to clean that out, at home now, slowly playing guitar so everything should be OK.
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