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elmodsorry, it was my fault (i talked about 7" Japan London TOP 1053)Quote
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+ jap. short version of Paint it Black (taken from 7"vinyl).
Elmond, you are correct, but which 7" short version of PIB are you talking about?
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stonesman87
I support blakeeik's full compilation as originally put together. It's an attempt to put together a complete bunch of tracks, the basis of which he's gone to great lengths to set out and explain. It's not an attempt to put together a bunch of stuff that "doesn't appear anywhere else", and on that basis there's no place for it to be reduced just because of any other compilation. I've been very interested in it for what it is, and I put it that anybody else interested in this big effort should take it as it is. It's up to individuals to reorganize or change the contents to suit their own purposes.
In any event, the release of the recent box set (i.e. the 1971-2006 CD singles box set) doesn't change one bit the fact that blakeeik's list, as his title for it says, is an attempt to list all official non-album tracks. It's a mistake to think that the 71-06 release could reduce blakeeik's list, because what it contains is material that's IN blakeeik's list (i.e. non-album tracks), as well as album tracks. If anything at all, the 71-06 release might have provided additional material to ADD to blakeeik's list, but so far nothing new appears to have come out of it. A suggestion that the 71-06 release might provide a basis for reduction of blakeeik's list just doesn't make sense. QED
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nick
Exile, once again, fantastic job!
There are 4 tracks in the History that are not working:
Glimmers Ms-Yoo 12 Vinyl rip (Are the 3 Special Disco Versions different sources and not different versions?)
Dems Collectors Edition Bonus Edition (Is this rip is from the Collector Edition CD source versus the Collectables CD from Flashpoint?)
Miss You 8-track SG Revisited (Thank you for also including the 8-track of Beast of Burden)
Miss you #2 Orig Demo Version (To clarify, these 3 #2's are different sources not versions?)
For someone who enjoys the most complete version of a song, Miss You #2 is one of the best. The 9:55 Whip is a killer too.
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madhouse
Bravo exilestones!!!! Have you worked on other material?
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exilestones
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I can tell you that all of these versions of Miss You are taken from Miss You #2. [...]
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exilestones
I'm finding one of the keys to figuring out what is what with Stones releaes is to figure out which master was used. Which master, which release has the static on the cow bell on Honky Tonk? Which releases use the MFSL (Mobile Fedility Sound Labs) wide stereo and which use the 1986 Abkco Masters? Which use the 2012 DSD Remasters (best IORR album)?
Here's a hint...grab all of the POCD releases and P25L's you can get for the best MFSL and Abkco 1986.
I could go on and on and on and on and on and on and on. I have to go to work.
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because the "Whaaa" is an over dub [...]
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Many people say that Rarities is a shortened DSKO mix or a shortened DS 2002 mix. That is not close to being true. The Rarities is an entirely different mix. [...]
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Miss You #2 - This is the original full-length source master of the officially released, edited versions of Miss You [...]
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nick
Carster,
The guy seems to have put in a lot of time with this and if his information is wrong then you got to do better than "No, it isn't" 3 times.
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exilestones
This is an entirely different mix of Paint It Black from Japan 1966 than found anywhere else. This just recently circulated as a bonus track to a mono 1st pressing of the UK Aftermath.
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I can tell you that all of these versions of Miss You are taken from Miss You #2. [...]
Miss You #2? The 11+ minutes one aka the Hoffmann/Zentgraf version II? If not, what's your reference?
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This is an entirely different mix of Paint It Black from Japan 1966 than found anywhere else. This just recently circulated as a bonus track to a mono 1st pressing of the UK Aftermath.
exilestones - I do not have this 45, but everything I was able to find suggested this is the same 3:24 single mono edit as the US/UK. What UK Aftermath are you referring to, and how is this version different than the US/UK mono single 3:24 version from 1966?
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because the "Whaaa" is an over dub [...]
No, it isn't. It's a part of a complete vocal track, a track ready for editing.Quote
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Many people say that Rarities is a shortened DSKO mix or a shortened DS 2002 mix. That is not close to being true. The Rarities is an entirely different mix. [...]
No, it isn't. It's an edit of the 2002 Remix. 7:02-7:53 cut out.Quote
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Miss You #2 - This is the original full-length source master of the officially released, edited versions of Miss You [...]
No, it isn't. It's a different take, different vocal track.
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exilestones
I'm finding one of the keys to figuring out what is what with Stones releaes is to figure out which master was used. Which master, which release has the static on the cow bell on Honky Tonk? Which releases use the MFSL (Mobile Fedility Sound Labs) wide stereo and which use the 1986 Abkco Masters? Which use the 2012 DSD Remasters (best IORR album)?
Here's a hint...grab all of the POCD releases and P25L's you can get for the best MFSL and Abkco 1986.
I could go on and on and on and on and on and on and on. I have to go to work.
ExileStones
Well...
MSFL... Did you look here?
[lukpac.org]
and here?
[www.iorr.org] (the images thkbeercan provided with the lists of the ABKCO reels are still there)
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I´m not a good downloader, - and my machine won´t allow me to download from the
HISTORY-link. But, can see it described as "Stereo Short", -
Pretty sure, that it is the 3.20 full stereo-version, that was CD-released on Japan-London/Polydor Hot Rocks 1 - in 1985, - (rereleased in ´95 ? )
Makes sense, that this stereo-mix wasn´t made for the CD, - but derived from
an old 7".
The very same mix is on GRRR, - at least the EU-manufactured version.
This is an entirely different mix of Paint It Black from Japan 1966 than found anywhere else. This just recently circulated as a bonus track to a mono 1st pressing of the UK Aftermath.
exilestones - I do not have this 45, but everything I was able to find suggested this is the same 3:24 single mono edit as the US/UK. What UK Aftermath are you referring to, and how is this version different than the US/UK mono single 3:24 version from 1966?
In Japan in 1966 they did their own mix of Paint It Black. I had read about this mix on the Internet. I then hunted for this recording and found it. It certainly sounds different to me. Check out the history below.
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exilestones
I´m not a good downloader, - and my machine won´t allow me to download from the
HISTORY-link. But, can see it described as "Stereo Short", -
Pretty sure, that it is the 3.20 full stereo-version, that was CD-released on Japan-London/Polydor Hot Rocks 1 - in 1985, - (rereleased in ´95 ? )
Makes sense, that this stereo-mix wasn´t made for the CD, - but derived from
an old 7".
The very same mix is on GRRR, - at least the EU-manufactured version.
This is an entirely different mix of Paint It Black from Japan 1966 than found anywhere else. This just recently circulated as a bonus track to a mono 1st pressing of the UK Aftermath.
exilestones - I do not have this 45, but everything I was able to find suggested this is the same 3:24 single mono edit as the US/UK. What UK Aftermath are you referring to, and how is this version different than the US/UK mono single 3:24 version from 1966?
In Japan in 1966 they did their own mix of Paint It Black. I had read about this mix on the Internet. I then hunted for this recording and found it. It certainly sounds different to me. Check out the history below.
HISTORY
Hmmm - Never paid the US-Aftermath - stereo, - much attention, - as the UK, - for me, - always has been the REAL Aftermath !Quote
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exilestones
I´m not a good downloader, - and my machine won´t allow me to download from the
HISTORY-link. But, can see it described as "Stereo Short", -
Pretty sure, that it is the 3.20 full stereo-version, that was CD-released on Japan-London/Polydor Hot Rocks 1 - in 1985, - (rereleased in ´95 ? )
Makes sense, that this stereo-mix wasn´t made for the CD, - but derived from
an old 7".
The very same mix is on GRRR, - at least the EU-manufactured version.
This is an entirely different mix of Paint It Black from Japan 1966 than found anywhere else. This just recently circulated as a bonus track to a mono 1st pressing of the UK Aftermath.
exilestones - I do not have this 45, but everything I was able to find suggested this is the same 3:24 single mono edit as the US/UK. What UK Aftermath are you referring to, and how is this version different than the US/UK mono single 3:24 version from 1966?
In Japan in 1966 they did their own mix of Paint It Black. I had read about this mix on the Internet. I then hunted for this recording and found it. It certainly sounds different to me. Check out the history below.
HISTORY
That one is identical to the stereo Paint It Black found on Hot Rocks (SACD reissue).
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ironbelly
Midnight Rambler 6.52 Probably - studio version
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blakeeik
Rarities Done Right (2015 update)
Plus, if anyone has this one, please let me know. Thanks!
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dave9199
I found it. Exile On Main Street Blues. What was it on and what was it for?