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Hmmm, seems the best decision with the WLR White Master Box is to forget about the audio tracks (all in Rarities Done Right, better quality, better referenced) and pay attention to only the DVDs.

Rarities Done Right = mp3, WLR Box = CD stuff (10 discs) seems a 1:1 copie from the original (wave) - the vinyl stuff of this box is partly far away from the best available quality and there are some tracks (3?) twice on this box - but i am NOT the defender of WLR.....

Actually, Rarities Done Right is a guide to official material, not a bootleg, or an mp3 collection. Make it however you want, if you want. The CDs I have of the songs I compared to WLR were far superior to those on WLR, including some vinyl rips. But I did not compare them all. To me, correct, accurate information can be just as valuable.

elmond - did you get my email?

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elmond - did you get my email?

I have send you the pdf-file.

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What do you think about
Out Of Control III* (5.39 Danny Saber´s Full Version) Recordable Promo CD (9 Tracks): "Out Of Control" Europe - (UK Promo 21.04.98) May 1998
Out Of Control VII* (6.51 In Hand With Fluke # 2, remixed by Fluke) Edited Version VI, shortened intro - Recordable Promo CD (5 Tracks): "Out Of Control (Fluke Remixes)" Europe: - (UK Promo 20.03.98) April 1998
Out Of Control IX* (4.10 - In Hand With Fluke [radio edit #2], remixed by Fluke, edited version VIII, Intro of 20 sec. before Mick starts to sing, listenable organ, faded out early - Recordable Promo CD (5 Tracks): "Out Of Control (Fluke Remixes)" Europe: - (UK Promo 20.03.98) April 1998
*Recording Index "Das Weissbuch" - Dieter Hoffmann

elmond, thanks for sending the pdf. my notes here: [www.iorr.org]

Also, I updated the RDR section: [www.iorr.org]



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Hey Blake, in your Edits & Alternates : Disc 2 : CD 1963-1983, you have 15. Crazy Mama [Edit] (4:06) Edit of Black and Blue (1976 LP) track. Released on Crazy Mama (1976 7" promo). [S70]. Can you give me more details of this 7" promo, maybe even a shot of the disc label? I want to find out the cat. # and exact name given to the edit, as well as adding a shot of the label to my collection of promo disc label shots.

Hi again Blake. Did you find out anything more about the Crazy Mama 7" promo?

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Hi again Blake. Did you find out anything more about the Crazy Mama 7" promo?

Still waiting for a reply. I have a vinyl rip of this alleged 7" promo, but I suppose it could be from a vinyl Sucking in the 70's.

Is it me, or is the US single version of Street Fighting Man not listed here? I've looked seriously but I can't find it.

After the 2nd verse & bass/piano break Mick sings 'Get Down' on the album version whereas he sings 'Yeah' on the single (I've seen this referred to as 'Get It', although I don't hear that). There are other differences but this is the most obvious.

Martin Elliott mentions "The USA single version has a different vocal mix"

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Is it me, or is the US single version of Street Fighting Man not listed here? I've looked seriously but I can't find it.

After the 2nd verse & bass/piano break Mick sings 'Get Down' on the album version whereas he sings 'Yeah' on the single (I've seen this referred to as 'Get It', although I don't hear that). There are other differences but this is the most obvious.

Martin Elliott mentions "The USA single version has a different vocal mix"

Vox, you are right, but...

I did not include anything that ABKCO has Remastered and Released since 2002.

What is not listed within (with some exceptions):
* Anything currently available on non-compilation studio or live albums including anything released on the ABKCO 2002 Remasters and the Singles releases are not here – these are must haves and are better left alone


The "Yeah" version is on Singles 1968-1971 and Singles Collection: The London Years.

If you mean something different, I am not aware of it.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2011-05-03 12:42 by blakeeik.

Yup, makes sense, thanks for clarifying that

Are you going to shorten the track listing due to the recent box set?

I support blakeeik's full compilation as originally put together. It's an attempt to put together a complete bunch of tracks, the basis of which he's gone to great lengths to set out and explain. It's not an attempt to put together a bunch of stuff that "doesn't appear anywhere else", and on that basis there's no place for it to be reduced just because of any other compilation. I've been very interested in it for what it is, and I put it that anybody else interested in this big effort should take it as it is. It's up to individuals to reorganize or change the contents to suit their own purposes.

In any event, the release of the recent box set (i.e. the 1971-2006 CD singles box set) doesn't change one bit the fact that blakeeik's list, as his title for it says, is an attempt to list all official non-album tracks. It's a mistake to think that the 71-06 release could reduce blakeeik's list, because what it contains is material that's IN blakeeik's list (i.e. non-album tracks), as well as album tracks. If anything at all, the 71-06 release might have provided additional material to ADD to blakeeik's list, but so far nothing new appears to have come out of it. A suggestion that the 71-06 release might provide a basis for reduction of blakeeik's list just doesn't make sense. QED



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2011-05-04 11:12 by stonesman87.

I have updated the pdf with some additions, including the Complete Singles. See the link in the first post of this thread.

pdf file updated here: [www.iorr.org]

Now included are tracks from the new Japanese SHM-SACDs and tracks unique to the 1985-2001 ABCKO/London releases.

List updated with some corrections, thanks to Richard from "Down Unda." Also thanks to Hurristone for the heads up on the 5.1 mixes.

[dl.dropbox.com]

Also, thanks to Bernhard of Hamburg, I'm tracking down some more rarities from some old European vinyl. Looks like there is more to come!



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2. Wild Horses [Short Version] (3:24) Edit of Sticky Fingers (1971 LP) track. Released in mono and stereo on Wild Horses (7” promo).

Stereo? Sure?

First, let me thank all the people involved in this project!
Must have been a lot of work!!

blakeeik:

on the pdf update I miss this entry from Vol.2:Live Disc 1 1963 - 1966:

25. Under My Thumb (1966-10-01-2, Newcastle) (2:52) Released on Got LIVE If You Want It! (1966 US LP) and issued on Got LIVE If You Want It! (1985 London CD). Replaced with an alternate version on Got LIVE If You Want It! (1986 ABKCO CD) and subsequent releases

Any reason why did you take this off?

Hurristone: yes, there are rare stereo versions of WH and JJF promo edits confirmed on the [stones7.com] website.

Rank: UMT was mentioned twice: once under "Live" and the other under "Edits & Alternates" CD3 (where it can still be found). It logically fits both places.



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"11. Miss You [12” Dance Remix Faded] (7:33) Faded edit of track #3" The Rarities release of Miss You is a very different mix and edit of Miss You than the 12" Disco mix. Your list is awesome. Thanks

Hi, blakeeik
Great update. I'd like to add 2 cents. In your list
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Volume 3: Edits & Alternates Disc 6: CD/Digital 1994-2012
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12. Rain Fall Down [Radio Edit] (4:02) Edit of A Bigger Bang (2005 CD) track. Released on Rain Fall Down (2005 CD single, CD promo). [G!]
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Clean versions (“w@@@@rs” muted) of track 12 and the album edit found on Virgin promo CD-Rs
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It seems that 'clean' Radio Edit can be found only on - Rain Fall Down [Virgin-EMI VSCDX 1907]
45x45 Box, Grrr! (Superdeluxe) contain unedited version with explicit word.

Also, situation with 'clean' album edit is not that straightforward.
2005 A Bigger Bang Instoresampler - [Virgin-EMI CDVDJ 3013] (Jewel Case) Europa has 'clean' album version.
2005 A Bigger Bang - For In Store Play Only - [Virgin-EMI 0946 3 41565 2 3] (Card Sleeve) USA has unedited album version.

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It seems that 'clean' Radio Edit can be found only on - Rain Fall Down [Virgin-EMI VSCDX 1907]

False...VSCDX1907 includes the dirty Radio Edit. However, the clean Radio Edit IS in existence (I should know). Who wants to shine?

Rain Fall Down CD Promo single VSCDJ1907 has 3 tracks:

1 - will.i.am Remix
2 - Radio Edit
3 - Ashley Beedle's Heavy Disco Radio Edit

All "Clean" versions.

Also, as stated by ironbelly, the "In Store Sampler" CDVDJ3013 has a "Clean" version of the full album mix.



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ironbelly, Carster, and martinw

Thank you for the clarifications!

My copy of Rain Fall Down CDS (2005) [Virgin-EMI VSCDX 1907] also seems to have a clean mixes of all 3. Carster - any ideas? Perhaps I got a mislabeled copy.



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My copy of Rain Fall Down CDS (2005) [Virgin-EMI VSCDX 1907] also seems to have a clean mixes of all 3. Carster - any ideas? Perhaps I got a mislabeled copy.

What does the barcode say? 0094634858021? 0094634631020? 0094634880923?
What does the matrix say? 010102-NL?

Carster, sent you an email

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Carster, sent you an email

You've got mail.

update? Beast of Burden itunes and Happy jap.Bonustrack (sweet summer sun)
+ jap. short version of Paint it Black (taken from 7"vinyl).
best



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+ jap. short version of Paint it Black (taken from 7"vinyl).

Elmond, you are correct, but which 7" short version of PIB are you talking about?

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+ jap. short version of Paint it Black (taken from 7"vinyl).

Elmond, you are correct, but which 7" short version of PIB are you talking about?

sorry, it was my fault (i talked about 7" Japan London TOP 1053)

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Miss You "8 Track version" = edited and remixed version IV, featuring extended rap,extended guitar part plus the sax solo (additional strophe)

The Miss You 8-Track is the Chris Kimsey extended mix. The DSKO Mix from the 1978 vinyl and the 2002 remix from Don't Stop (I referred to as a Rock Remix) was created from the master tapes by Bob Clear Mountain. The Rarities Miss You I could never find any information about who mixed it or anything.

I can tell you that all of these versions of Miss You are taken from Miss You #2. If you really want to understand Miss You than you need to know Miss You #2. Miss You #2 is great on it's own!

I've spent countless days trying to figure out Miss You. It all started in 1997 when my friend want to add the sax solo from the LP version of Miss You in to the extended version of Miss You (only one extended version back then).

Our splicing project didn't work for several reasons. One problem was the sound/mix from the LP was not close to the sound and mix of the 12 inch extended version.

Years later after the 2002 long mix of Miss You came out on the Don't Stop single I thought I'd try it again. Now we had a rock mix of the song where the guitars were brought up in the mix much more and these was the bass and drums over-dominating the mix. It didn't work again for several reasons.

One reason the splice job didn't work is because the sax solo over laps with a guitar solo. If you want to find a marker to see where these two version line up, listen to the rhythm guitar (going from memory here) at the end of the sax solo at about 04.16. This is a key marker.

One thing that drove me nuts about trying line-up the different Miss Yous was it seems obvious if I'm trying to line-up the longer 2002 mix and an LP mix would be to line them up when Mick screams, "Whaaa" just before the sax solo on the LP and the same "Whaaa" before a guitar solo in the same spot (different time of course sinse the LP version is edited and the official 8.35 extended version has an added drum loop make the song longer.

The backing music of the sax solo (LP edit) matches the extended version(s) from 4.14-4.28. The “WHAAAA!” on the Some Girls LP edit of Miss You backing music would come in at about 4.13 but the WHAAA!” on the extended Miss You comes in at 4.35.

The "Whaaa" line-up didn't work either because the "Whaaa" is an over dub and they are placed at two different points in the songs. The "whaaa" comes in later I think on the 8.35 versions. That piece of info boggled my brain for the longest time. Remember it's the marker at the very end of the sax solo which is most important to figuring it all out.

You have to base all research on Miss You #2.





People mean well when the share information about Miss You but they are usually wrong. Here in this thread we had good info saying that the 2002 DS (Don't Stop) and the 1978 DSKO (Disco) version were different mixes. Many people say that Rarities is a shortened DSKO mix or a shortened DS 2002 mix. That is not close to being true. The Rarities is an entirely different mix. Something new for the Rarities album. I guess they had this lying around and decided to use it? idk.


I'm a huge fan of Miss You and the Rarities is my favorite. I like the mix the best. I think Rarities is based on the rhythm guitar more where as the DSKO mix is led by keyboards and drums.

A huge difference between the Rarities release and the others is during the harmonica solo just before the 7 minute mark when the harmonica and lead solos are over.

The problem with the Rarities mix for my taste is that when the sax/harmonica solo (which is really cool) is over, the song does not transition well back to the rest of the song (7.11) as it does with the other renditions.

Another problem we had way back in 1996 trying to splice the two Miss Yous together was not only the mix but the LP version runs faster than the longer versions.

Another Marker to let you know which version of the longer Miss You comes from which master mix comes in at 1.34. The old versions of the longer Miss You have that lick at 1.34. Apparently, with the 2002 DS release is when it all changed according to my research. If you compare every longer version of Miss You at the 1.34 lick or "Missing Lick" as I call it that is the key marker to tell you if you have a pre-2002 master the song was taken from or a post-2002 master the song was taken from. Here's some proof:

MISS YOU 8.34 (12' Mix) Flashpoint CBS 4669182 1990 MISS YOU IV A has missing lick 1.34
Miss You 8.35 12' The Versions A has missing lick 1.34
MISS YOU 8.35 (disco) Glimmers-MsYoo 12 vinyl rip A has missing lick 1.34
MISS YOU 8.35 (Extended Version) SG REVISITED A has missing lick 1.34
MISS YOU 8.35 funwithvinyl 12 IN PROMO A has missing lick 1.34
Miss You 8.35 (Special Disco Version) DK 4609 (vinyl) A has missing lick 1.34
MISS YOU 8.35 12 SINGLES 71-06 A has missing lick 1.34
MISS YOU 8.35 24 bit (disco) A has missing lick 1.34
MISS YOU 8.35 CBS 656068 3 (3 inch ) A has missing lick 1.34
MISS YOU 8.35 Singles 71-06 dont stop A missing lick 1.34
MISS YOU 8.35 (Remix) DONT STOP A missing lick 1.34
MISS YOU 7.33 (Dance Mix) Rarities VIRGIN TOCP-66508 A missing lick 1.34

The 2002 DS Miss You which is very similar to the Singles 1971-1006 (2006 release) as well as the old 1978 extended release on vinyl have the same edits, except for the 'missing lick' (btw I like that lick!) besides a totally different mix from all of the other Miss Yous released, the 8.35 edit by Bob Clear mountain is totally different then Miss You #2 or any of the Chris Kimsey edits.

Bob Clear mountain is a genius! Bob Clear mountain not only added/created the drum loop which was cool, especially for the Disco version but rearranged the song, cut, splices, duplicates in a wild juxtaposition (out of order) and it works well! Amazing! Fake!

Yes, the 8.35 is clearly a Bob Clearmountain creation. He's another member of the band here except his instrument is the mixing board and editing.

In the 8.35 versions of the song that Bob edited together he rearranges the entire song after the first "Come Home, Come Home!" It's all out of order and done brilliantly. The last verse he uses should be after the sax solo-guitar solo as it is on the LP but it's a strong ending. It works well!

In the 8.35 edits the "Come Home, Come Home!" is there twice. Bob added it a second time. If you compare the 8.35 version to the original Miss You #2 you'll see it should only be there once. This alone tells us that the shorter releases of the Miss You from the LPs, singles, greatest hits and rarities is not a shorter version of the 8.35 edits. NO!

The 8-Track and Rarities match Miss You #2 exactly until they are done (without the overdubs etc...). The 8.35 you can see isn't even close once the first "Come Home, Come Home!" comes in.

Everything on the 8.35 versions came from the Stones themselves except for the drum loop. However the lead guitar parts before the "Come Home, Come Home" have the vocal over top of the lead. Bob Cleamountain stripped those guitar parts out of the first half of the song and duplicated them and put those parts in again as solos without the vocals. Many parts in the 8.35 edit are actually in twice.

Listening to Miss You #2, which stands tall on it's own, a great version of the song (Sister Morphine version) you can see that the Stones planned for the song to be a single and an extended version. It was certainly, obviously designed that way.

Another thing that was hard to figure out is which parts of the chorus was cut for which version. There are background markers and the way Jagger sings some lines that will give us a clue. I figured it out.

I think the best LP version of Miss You is on Some Girls TOCP-66456 (2005). There is much more guitars upfront.

The best 8.35 mix, idk, the Disco Mix is far different than the 2002 and 2006 releases. Listening to Miss You is like eating Chicken. How many ways are there to prepare chicken? Would you like fired, chicken parm or the disco mix? A little more lead on your croquet with a little more pepper in the mix? ha-ha

I'll leave you with my notes in the We Transfer file below.

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DS= Don’t Stop 8.35 EXT Edit
MU2 = Unreleased original Miss You before editing and overdubs
RAR = Rarities (follows the same order as MU2 but is heavily edited)
LP = LP Edit as released on Some Girls Album

MISS YOU #2

0.07 note matches others
0.17-0.19 lead & rhythm
0.24-0.25 rhythm-lick matches DS2002, edited from LP EDIT
Lead one 00.29-35 unknown?
Intro lick 0.34-0.35
I’ve been howlin’ on the phone 0.37
I’ve been sleepin’ all alone 0.39
---- I miss you 0.40
lick .42-.44 matches DS .18 matches 8T .18 matches LP .16 matches RAR .16
I’ve been lovin’ on the phone 0.45
I’ve been sleepin’ all alone 0.47
Lord i miss you child 0.49
Lick 001 0.51
Sometime i wanna sing 0.51

Ooouuu oouu oouu
Ooouuu oouu oouu
Ooouuu oouu oh baby

I want to kiss you 0.58

Ooouuu oouu oouu
I want to kiss you childs 1.07

LEAD SOLO #1 pt 1 same as 8T & DS & LP
LEAD SOLO #1 pt2 1.18 - 1.36 (same as ONLY ON 8-TRACK chorus) (lead solo pt 2 missing from DS & LP EDIT)

Ah aha, my friends say I’m crazy 01.37
I’m being and I went and ah
What’s a matter with you boy? 01.42

They callin’ on the phone and they say,
Lets go get down 01.47
and dance with the Porto Rician girls like we use to 01.50 (meet you?)

lick 1.54

I say, what’s a matter man, what you know, 01.54
let’s go out and have some fun 01.56
What’s a matter with you, what’s with you? 01.58

I say, I’ve been waitin in the hall 02.02
waitin’ in for the call 02.06

I’ll be there 02.08

Don’t worry about me boy 02.10
ahhhh, I said it wrong,
Something wrong with you 02.13
Let’s go home 02.14
You abandon me always oh let’s go 02.17
every time I sing for you 02.19
(rhythm build) 2.20 same as RAR 2.20, same as 8T 2.20, same as DS

Ooouuu oouu oouu (2nd chorus?)
Ooouuu oouu oouu
Ooouuu oouu child
02.25
ha-ha 02.26
Ooouuu oouu oouu
Ooouuu oouu oouu
Ooouuu oouu oouu
I miss you 02.33

guitar part 2.27-2.28 same as DS, DS “I’ve been standing her too long.”

intro lead/lead builds 2.33-2.36 matches DS, matches Single

LEAD SOLO # 2 2.36 – 2.52 lead stripped from DS

ah, baby 2.38

lick 2.52 MARKER - matches UMLP 1.54, matches 8T 2.52, DS 2.52, MU2 2.52

bridge 2.54 (“oh, baby why you wait so long” on DS)

guitar - 3.04 (this guitar is buried on DS2002)

lead 03.04 – 3.09 matches DS,

(02.54 music change - chours)
(ou, baby why you wait so long 2.59)
(ou, baby why you wait so long 3.06)

Chorus (instrumental) 3.10 (DS go home go home) matches 8T?
match vocals w 8T 3.10

Ahhh, what’s a matter baby a hole in the sound 3.16

drum loop added on DS only – timing changes compared to DS

single harmonics 3.16 marker matches 3.25 DS

drum loop added on DS only

3.20 chord not on DS
3.21 “hole in the sound”
We go downtown to that club we used to go to it 3.26

What was it called? 03.29

lead solo 2:56 – 3.11 match

ahhhh 3.16

I might go, might go down town 3.24
remember that club we used to go to it? 3.26

BASS SOLO 3.29-3.42 - - - - - - - start here ( 24 sec loss?)


what was it called? 3.30
ah, Galaxy something or other 3.33

double harmonics 3.32 – 3.36 not on DS here (double harmonics at 4.00 on DS) – same as 8T


We used to mess around with these Porto Rican girls and they’d always turn out to be men in the end 3.40

It was fun 3.42

See, what’s a matter you know? 03.45 - 8T CUT HERE at 3.49 just before ‘who-who-who- who-who
build starts matches DS2002
We don’t go out like we used to 03.47
(03.50 rhythm)
I say I’m right hear waitin’ on a call 03.52

double lick 3.54 - 3.56

double harmonics 4.00 marker (use this marker to match Ext Edit- matches

I miss that child so bad, understand 04.01

I want to sing to her 04.02 2 keyboard notes – same as 8T 3.52
(4.05-4.29 same as sax solo)
Ooouuu oouu oouu
Ooouuu oouu oouu
Ooouuu oouu oouu
Lord i miss you 04.09
4.09 power CHORD Before Solo (Whaaa) same as UM 4.35
I’m tryin’ to sometime
Ooouuu oouu oouu
Ooouuu oouu oouu
Ooouuu oouu oouu
God damn i miss you child 04.18
(well, well, well? 04.25)

04.27 lick – sax end lick - matches 8T 4.16 – matches 8T “I guess I’m lying to myself”

04.38-04.55 lead known lead matches Don’t Stop Remix & 8T

lick 04.53 match

Music w/lead (known lead) 04.55 (chorus?) - beginning of lead starts on 8T then cut (8T 3.55)
(un known) 05.47 (lead behind chorus

05.12 lick known (bell ringer) matches DS,
05.13 rhythm part match
05.17 8T SPLIT EDIT
05.20’s lead known
5.15-5.30
scratchy rhythm 05.35

guitar familar 05.40

05.49-05.56 lead same as DS 5.35


Lick known 06.03

06.09-06.12 unknown guitar part?

06.12-06.29 lead known lead match same time to Don’t Stop Remix
6.34-7.12 MATCHES 8T
06.29-07.00 lead unknown?
Lick known 07.00-07.03
¬¬
07.03-07.18 lead known

07.18- unkown lead
07.58-08.24 lead 7 rhythm known?

08.24-09.04 unknown

9.04 end of harmonica solo matches 7.00 RAR?

09.04 Rhythm stomps in -
09.13 known lick (bell ringer)
09.13-end unknown

Oh i miss you sugar

Music 09.49

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Miss You 8 TRACK IV

I've been holding out so long 00.34
I've been sleeping all alone
Lord I miss you 00.40
I've been hanging on the phone
I've been sleeping all alone
I want to kiss you 00.48

(lick) sometimes 00.51

Oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh
Oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh
Oooh oooh oooh ahh 00.57
(lick)
Oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh
Oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh
Oooh oooh oooh oooh 01.05
1.00-1.08 background lead
Well 01.07
Lead guitar 1
Don’t Stop Singles LEAD SOLO PT 1 ends 1.20 – whole solo on MU2 1.10-1.37
Oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh w/LEAD SOLO 1 PT 2 OVER CHORUS ONLY ON 8T
Oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh
Oooh oooh oooh 01.24

Oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh
Oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh
Oooh oooh oooh oooh 01.33

Lead guitar solo endl 01.34

LICK1.38 (has “missing lick”) This lick appears only on the earlier releases of EXT MU: Special Disco Mix, Flashpoint Collectibles, 3” Angie

Well, I've been howlin’ in my sleep
You've been starring in my dreams
Lord I miss you child 01.40
I've been waiting in the hall
Been waiting on your call
Your phone rings 01.48

It's just some friends of mine that say,
"Hey, what's the matter man? 01.53

We're gonna come around at twelve
With some Puerto Rican girls that are just dyin' to meet you. 01.59

We're gonna bring a case of wine
Hey, let's go mess and fool around
You know, like we used to" 02.06

2.08=2.19 guitar parts match MU2

Yeah, we gonna do some midtown 02.10
Ya know mess and fool around
Hey man, what’s with you? 02.14
You been strung out for too long (rhythm build) build matches MU2, missing on LP
Girls will come and go they’re just like street cars 02.23
I’ve been standing here too long
You know I told you I feel abandon 02.29, matches 8T 2.29

Ou are ya? 02.33 matches DS2002

Aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah (background lead) match – identify each chorus – identify lead
Aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah
Aaah aaah aaah aaah 02.40
(background lead) FULL SOLO #3 heavikly edited on other versions Does this match Don’t Stop Remix? Great lead
I say Aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah (well) 02.45
Aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah
Aaah aaah aaah aaah 02.49
intro lick 02.51
Oh baby why you wait so long 02.56
Oh baby why you wait so long 03.05
Won't you come home! Come home! 03.08
(lick) matches DS2002
background chatter vocals “What’s a matter man?” matches MU2
EDIT cut bass section
Ahhhh 03.11 – matches Don’t Stop 03.34
(2 note lick) 03.13 check all versions for this 2 note lick
Chick-achick-to 03.16 matches DS2002
I've been walking in Central Park 03.19
Singing after dark 03.21
People think I'm crazy 02.24
I've been stumbling on my feet
Shuffling through the street
Asking people, "What's the matter with you boy?" 03.35

Sometimes I want to say to myself 03.39
Sometimes I say 03.41 matches DS2002 4.09

Oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh 03.44
Oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh (background chatter thank you very much?)
Oooh oooh oooh
yeah 03.49
(Two note keys 03.51)
Oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh
Oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh
I wanna kiss you child 03.57
Whaaaa 03.59
Same as DS2002 ends here MATCH MU2 UNTIL? Match LP until?
Sax solo 04.00-04.16 (16 sec) No sax solo 8.35 edits

I guess I'm lying to myself 4.19
It's just you and no one else
Lord I wanna kiss you child 04.23
You've been blotting out my mind Where does 8.35 edit stop and start?
Fooling on my time
Lord I want to kiss you baby, yeah 04.33 matches DS2006 6.53

Lord, I miss you child 04.36

entire LEAD SOLO # over ah chorus match

ouu ahhhh bay bay 04.42 matches DS2006 7.02
Aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah
Aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah (ha ha background vocals throughout chorus) match
Aaah aaah aaah aaah 04.48

CUT 4.46 two different solos spliced together

LICK bell ringer 4.49

Lord, I miss you child 04.50

Aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah
Aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah 04.54 markers?
Aaah aaah aaah aaah 04.57


background lead match

Lord, I miss you child 04.59 (match - lead guitar stinger over vocals) same as Don’t Stop ?

Aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah
Aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah
Aaah aaah aaah aaah 05.06
Ah Bay bay baby 05.07 same as Don’t Stop Remix 5.36

Harp Solo 05.07- different mix – harp fades & 3rd guitar takes over compare harp solo mixes
(05.25 lick)
(05.35 3X lick) same as Don’t Stop Remix 5.50
05.17 rhythm part
End 05.42


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Miss You LP


0.19-0.19 lick & 2 notes UM mixed well – two keys notes mix slightly lower than lick – LICK MATCHES RAR .19

Cut here apx 0.18 missing section apx 8 seconds
Cut is obvious once you know it – suttle lead is suddenly under way
Apx 0.26- matches DS 19-
intro CHORD 0.26 matches MU2 0.34-0.35 matches DS 0.34-0.35
I've been holding out so long 00.28
I've been sleeping all alone 00.31
Lord I miss you
Lick 0.34-0.36 matches DS2002 .40
I've been hanging on the phone
I've been sleeping all alone
I want to kiss you 00.41
Lick matches others at this spot
Sometimes 00.44

Oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh 00.46
Oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh
Oooh oooh oooh ah 00.51

LICK 00.52 same as DS 1.00, MU2 & DS 2006(better on 06 than UM)

Oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh
Oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh
Oooh oooh oooh oooh 00.59
faint Yeah

SOLO ONE cut pt 1 & pt 2 (ahhh cut) 1:02-132

CHORDS 1.01 – 1.03, match MU2

MISSING LICK 1.01-1.02 same as DSKO 1.38, NOT ON DS 1.38

Well, I've been howlin’ in my sleep 1.03
You've been starring in my dreams
Lord I miss you child 1.08
I've been waiting in the hall
Been waiting on your call
When the phone rings 1.16
It's just some friends of mine that say,
"Hey, what's the matter man? 1.20
We're gonna come around at twelve
With some Puerto Rican girls that are just dyin' to meet you. 1.59
We're gonna bring a case of wine dity
Hey, let's go mess and fool around
You know, like we used to" 1.34 1.32-1.35 swirling lead 2X 1.32 & 1.34
cut
LICK - per-solo intro lick 1.35 present on UM LP, same as MU2 2.33, Rarities apx 2.33?

SOLO #2 during ‘ah-ha chorus’ 1.37-1.55 same as MU2 2.36-2.52, TOCP/UM/COLL/CBS/VIR 01.46-01.53
SOLO #2 during ‘ah-ha chorus’ not on EXT/DS

Aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah
Aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah
Aaah aaah aaah aaah 1.45 background LEAD SOLO TWO match 8T?
I say Aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah
Aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah
Aaah aaah aaah aaah lead (1.49-1.52) short lead/chords before lick maybe missing on others match
lick 1.53 same as Rarities 2.52
Oh baby why you wait so long 1.59
Oh baby why you wait so long
Won't you come home! Come home! 20 sec cut from LP
Lick 2.12 same as MU2 7.01-7.04, lick same as 8T, lick not on DS 2006, lick not on Rarities

drums/bass 2.13-2.21
cut entire bass/drum section on LP, same cut on 8T

Ahhhh 02.17 matches Rarities 3.39, matches Frank 3.31
chick a chick a chick matches Rarities 3.41

Rip Note matches MU2 3.20
I've been walking Central Park

Singing after dark LP-UM has echo on this line
People think I'm crazy 02.28
I've been stumbling on my feet
Shuffling through the street 02.33
Asking people, "What's the matter with you boy?" 02.38

Sometimes I want to say to myself 02.43 hamrmonics best here LP UM - echo on vocals Rarities
Sometimes I say 02.45 echo on vocals Rarities

Oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh 02.48
Oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh - ‘thank you’ background vocals? Check all
Oooh oooh oooh yas 02.53 NO LICK, YAS CHORUS

Double guitar part misssing does not match UM LP 2.30 (between ou-ou-ou-ou’s)
APX 2.52 is where lead slo starts on DS2006 (after Whaaaa)

small Double guitar part cut
(2 note key) 02.56 same as don’t stop 4.27

chorus cut from LP – only 2ea chorus on LP. 3ea on 8.35 Extended edit

Oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh KISS YOU CHILD CHORUS
Oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh
I wanna kiss you child you child 03.02 matches Rarities 4.34, matches DS 2002 4.34

Rhythm intro lick 3.03 matches DS 2002 4.35, matches MU2 4.30-4.31

Whaaaaa? 03.04 same as Don’t Stop 04.36 (Whaa is in different position than DS)

Sax solo (17 sec) 03.04-03.21 8 sec guitar solo here on Rarities 4.36
end of sax solo overlaps vocals “I guess I’m lying..”
sax solo matches 8T 3.59-4.17


missing lick - compared to dont stop 06.35. matches 8T 4.19

splice
I guess I'm lying to myself 3.24 sax solo overlaps begining of lyric
It's just you and no one else

Lord I wanna kiss you child 03.28 matches 8T 4.24
rhythm lick = = = =
You've been blotting out my mind matches 8T 4.27
Fooling on my time
Lord I want to kiss you, baby, yeah-ah 03.38

Lord, I miss you child 03.41 (background lead) check against don’t stop 6.55 & other lord...
lick matches
oh, oh, who, ahhhh 3.45 not on others?
Baby

CUT HERE MU2
Aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah
Aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah
Aaah aaah aaah aaah
CUT here?
aahhh bay bay (high pitch & fadeded) 03.48 matches DS2006 5.36? & LP 4.14 below?

Aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah
Aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah
Aaah aaah aaah aaah

Lord, I miss you child 03.56 w/guitar stinger copied or same as don’t stop 7.52-8.19

aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah
aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah
aaah aaah aaah aaah 04.03

Lord, I miss you child 04.05

aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah
aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah lead over vocals
aaah aaah
bay bay baby 04.14 matches DS2006 5.36, 8T 5.07, Rarities 5.36 girly vocals
06.21 rarities?
harmonica solo 04.14-04.48 same as 8T match background lead – rattle snake lead

End 04.48 8T end 5.41


*THE MISSING LICK comes at 1.00 in LP before howling in my dreams verse
*THE MISSING LICK comes in at 1.38 in the disco mix and 3”
*THE MISSING LICK comes in at __1.38?________ on the 8Track
Rairities 1.38?

I’ve been holdng on too long verse missing from LP edit

8T & LP same from sax solo on (at least)


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Miss You 7.33 Rarities (Dance Mix)

I've been holding out so long 00.32
I've been sleeping all alone
Lord I miss you
I've been hanging on the phone
I've been sleeping all alone
I want to kiss you 00.48
sometimes

Oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh
Oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh
Oooh oooh oooh nahhh 00.57

lick 00.59

Oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh
Oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh
Oooh oooh oooh oooh (faint backgroung yeah) 01.05 matches LP60

Well 01.08

Lead guitar 01.08-01.18 not on LP

Oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh not on LP
Oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh (w/o lead)
Oooh oooh oooh 01.24
sssss 01.25 not on LP
Oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh
Oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh
Oooh oooh oooh oooh 01.33 not on LP
missing lick
Well, I've been howlin’ in my sleep
You've been starring in my dreams
Lord I miss you child 01.40
I've been waiting in the hall
Been waiting on your call
When the phone rings 01.48
It's just some friends of mine that say, 01.51
"Hey, what's the matter man?
We're gonna come around at twelve
With some Puerto Rican girls that are just dyin' to meet you. 01.59
We're gonna bring a case of wine
Hey, let's go mess and fool around
You know, like we used to" 02.06 LP is cut here

Yeah, we gonna do some midtown
Ya know mess and fool around
Hey man, what’s with you? 02.14
You been strung out for too long
Girls will come and go they’re just like street cars 02.23
I’ve been standing here too long
You know I told you I feel abandon 02.31
(backgroung lead) same as LP 1.35
Ou are ya? 02.33

Aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah
Aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah
Aaah aaah aaah aaah 02.42
I say Aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah
Aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah
Aaah aaah aaah aaah 02.50
lick 02.52 same as LP 1.53?

Oh baby why you wait so long 02.56 (background lead starts)
Oh baby why you wait so long
Won't you come home! Come home! 03.08

Bass section 03.08-03.40

Ahhhh 03.40 matches LP 2.17, matches Rarities 3.39, matches Frank 3.31
Chick a chick...

I've been walking in Central Park 03.46
Singing after dark
People think I'm crazy 03.52
I've been stumbling on my feet
Shuffling through the street harmonics
Asking people, "What's the matter with you boy?" 04.01 harmonics

Sometimes I want to say to myself harmonics
Sometimes I say 04.07

G Oooh oooh G oooh G oooh oooh oooh oooh
Oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh G 04.14 (thank you very much)
Oooh oooh oooh

guitar 2x 04.18 check missing from LP

Splice

Oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh lead guitar work this section missing from LP
Oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh (Guitar 1 X) extra Ooooh section above?
Oooh oooh oooh faint yeah 4.25

Two keyboard notes 4.27 matches DS2006 4.27, matches LP 02.56, matches 8T 3.51, matches LP 2.56

Oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh
Oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh oooh
I wanna kiss you child 04.34

Rhythm Lick matches LP 3.03, matches DS2006 4.36

Whaaa 04.36 same as LP 3.04

Guitar solo (8 sec) 04.36- 04.44

I’ve been holdin on so long
waitin on the phone
Lord I miss you 04.50
Guitar notes
I’ve been sleeping all alone
Hangin on too long 04.57
I wanna kiss you, child 04.59

Sometimes i want to sing 05.02

Lead solo ends 05.02-05.17 matches DS2006 5.03-5.18

Yeah 05.18 check

Aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah
Aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah
Aaah aaah aaah aaah 5.25

Lord, I miss you child 5.27 should matchDon’t Stop

Aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah
Aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah (background lead) should match Don’t Stop
Aaah aaah aaah aaah

Lord, I miss you child should matchDon’t Stop

Aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah
Aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah
Aaah aaah aaah aaah 5.34
Ah, bay baby 5.36 matches DS2006 7.02, matches LP 4.14,

Harp (5.53 guitar notes in gap)

6.00 speed up & bass line

6.12 – 06.20 (unknown lead)USE THIS match w dont stop
6.20 rhythm (3ea 4 count)
Bah-bah bah-bay 06.21 match girly backups same as Don’t Stop 08.00?
lick like dont stop 6.26?
Rhythm stomps in 6.26-6.30 matches MU2 9.05-9.10

Well well well welll well 06.31 should match dont stop

lick 6.34-6.36 matches DS2006 6.36, matches MU2 9.47,

I guess I'm lying to myself 06.38
It's just you and no one else
Lord I wanna kiss you child 06.42
You've been blotting out my mind
Fooling on my time
Lord I want to kiss you, baby, yeah 06.53

Lord, I miss you child 06.53
ouuu-whooo w/lead 06.59 match? Dont stop same time?
(Ahhhhh-baby high pitched) 07.02 should match don’t stop – match? Same time?
Aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah
Aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah
Aaah aaah aaah aaah 07.08
ckeck for background lead same as dont stop?
cut
(ha ha ha match w dont stop
Lord, I miss you child (guitar notes) 07.19 same as dont stop 8.10

Aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah
Aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah
Aaah aaah aaah aaah 07.25

Yes, baby 07.28 (end) check against dont stop 8.19

Rarities has heavy bass

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Track 1. Special Disco Mix (8:34) - Although there are several extened versions of Miss You, there is only one Special Disco Mix. It was only released on 12" vinyl in 1978. With it's heavy drum/bass Disco dance beat mix, this Miss You is lead by the keyboards and bass. Stripped of much of the songs lead guitar and rhythm guitar and only features a few chords or licks during changes in the song but does feature full lead guitar solos spliced in later in the song. This and the other official extended versions of the song have sections duplicated and re-spiced back in a juxtaposition and also features a drum/bass loop.

Other official releases of extended versions of Miss You(8:35) never captured the mood of this late 1970's dance mix like the original vinyl. This fan made vinyl rip from "Dem Collector's Edition" captures the original vinyl the best!

Track 2. LP Edit (4:49) - This 2009 Universal release of Miss You (UM B0012837-02) is by far the best and brightest mix of the LP Edit of Miss You with the most separation between instruments. The guitars are mix way up compared to other releases and they did a great job of it! The heavily edited, over-dubbed, LP Edit features a Mel Collins saxophone solo which is special to the 8 -Track & LP Edits. This 2009 UM release has the Lead Guitar and Sax brought out better than ever.

Track 3. Rarities (7:33) - This stripped-down rhythm-guitar-based driving mix features a unique harp solo with more lead guitar. This harp-guitar duel is truer to the unreleased original version of Miss You #2.

Track 4. 8 -TRACK (5:44 Some Girls Revisited) - Taken from Miss You #4 (edited version of Miss You #2 with over dubs). The song is based on an extended LP Edit guitar mix and not one of the dance mixes. Only the 8 -Track is the only official release to feature an extended lead guitar solo that goes beyond the 1:20 mark and continues in to the first chorus of, "Ahhh, ahhhh, ahhhh-hh" (solo from 1:07 - 1:34). The 8 -Track features a longer edit than the LP Edit but does not feature the drum/bass loop or additional guitar solos. Like the LP edit, much of the lead guitar is present during the verses and not re-spliced in as lead guitar solos as done in the other extended versions.

Track 5. Miss You #2 - This is the original full-length source master of the officially released, edited versions of Miss You before various over-dubs and mixes. This more laid-back Miss You shows the original take of the song with a different unedited and natural order as created. Full lead guitar in the left channel.

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