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memo from turner
Posted by: mrD ()
Date: October 1, 2007 17:19

I was just listening to the "very" best of mick jagger. And I was very surprised about the version of memo from turner.

It is very different from the Metamorphosis version I know. Did they remix it for this cd or were there always two versions?

Re: memo from turner
Posted by: Kyle ()
Date: October 1, 2007 17:21

3 versions that I know of. Two that The Stones did and one that Jagger did with Cooder.

Re: memo from turner
Posted by: VoodooLounge13 ()
Date: October 1, 2007 17:41

The version on the Very Best of should be the Cooder version, which would be the one from the Performance sdtrk, which is IMO the best version of the song.

Re: memo from turner
Posted by: Kyle ()
Date: October 1, 2007 17:50

It is the best, and I never thought I would say that,but the Stones version sucks.

Re: memo from turner
Posted by: mrD ()
Date: October 1, 2007 17:53

come on, the Metamorphosis is much better, it has the feel of stray cat blues/monkey man. It has much more rock to it then the version on the very best.

Re: memo from turner
Posted by: 1962 ()
Date: October 1, 2007 18:01

The best version IMO is the one on the Black Box bootleg.(Also with Ry Cooder?!)

Re: memo from turner
Posted by: Kyle ()
Date: October 1, 2007 18:01

Not really.....the Performance version blows the others away.

Re: memo from turner
Posted by: 1962 ()
Date: October 1, 2007 18:04

Who are on the Black Box version??? Ry Cooder?? The drummer? The others?

Re: memo from turner
Posted by: David700 ()
Date: October 1, 2007 18:04

I have always felt that the movie version was better than the Metamorphosis version. This song is one of my favourite Jagger/Richards songs, the lyrics are great and the scene in the movie brings it all home.
I highly recommend the performance soundtrack is it pretty good.

Re: memo from turner
Posted by: Erik_Snow ()
Date: October 1, 2007 18:04

Performance version blows Metamorphosis version out of the water

Re: memo from turner
Posted by: 1962 ()
Date: October 1, 2007 18:09

The Black Box version is slower and it's midway between the film version and Metamorphosis. Awsome.It's on the Black Box II.CD from 1968?

Re: memo from turner
Posted by: 1962 ()
Date: October 1, 2007 18:11

Metamorphosis version is almost like an early punk song. The others are more sophisticated.

Re: memo from turner
Posted by: Erik_Snow ()
Date: October 1, 2007 18:13

1962 Wrote:
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> The Black Box version is slower and it's midway
> between the film version and Metamorphosis.
> Awsome.It's on the Black Box II.CD from 1968?


September 1968. Yes it's very good that one as well. Performance beats it though...



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Re: memo from turner
Posted by: 1962 ()
Date: October 1, 2007 18:14

IMO:
1. Film version 10/10
2. Black Box version 10/10
3. Metamorphosis version 7/10

Re: memo from turner
Posted by: mrD ()
Date: October 1, 2007 18:16

ok,

Is the performance version the same as the very best version?

or did I love a song of which even better versions go around. grinning smiley


"You'll still be in the circus when I'm laughing, laughing in my grave..."



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-10-01 18:17 by mrD.

Re: memo from turner
Posted by: 1962 ()
Date: October 1, 2007 18:20

Has anybody got any info about the band who plays on the Black Box II. version? Thanks in advance!

Re: memo from turner
Posted by: Baboon Bro ()
Date: October 1, 2007 19:00

Not sure if I got the Performance rendition.
Anybody could tell me how I do get it?

Re: memo from turner
Posted by: Rank Stranger ()
Date: October 1, 2007 19:18

Hello Baboon Bro!
Lookout for the Rolling Stones Singles collection, disc three!
[www.jpc.de]

Re: memo from turner
Posted by: Rank Stranger ()
Date: October 1, 2007 19:24

Hello again!
Now can anybody help me? I have an old vinyl bootleg called "Lord Have Mercy".It has a 3:46" version that is neither the "Performance" nor the "Metamorphosis" version; is this the same as the Black Box version, or is this yet another version???

Re: memo from turner
Posted by: gmanp ()
Date: October 1, 2007 19:24

MFT turned up on Anthony Bordain's playlist of fav songs smiling smiley

[www.rhapsody.com]

Re: memo from turner
Posted by: Sohoe ()
Date: October 1, 2007 19:26

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-10-01 20:35 by Sohoe.

Re: memo from turner
Posted by: 55 Rusty ()
Date: October 1, 2007 20:08

If Mick's Best Of is different as The London Years, then we have 5 versions

Memo From Turner ( alt.version-different rhythm ) 3.51
Memo From Turner ( extended intro ) 4.28
Memo From Turner ( Metamorphosis ) 2.47
Memo From Turner ( Best OF ) 4.03
Memo From Turner ( The London Years ) 4.06

Re: memo from turner
Posted by: alimente ()
Date: October 1, 2007 20:17

55 Rusty Wrote:
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> If Mick's Best Of is different as The London
> Years, then we have 5 versions
>
> Memo From Turner ( alt.version-different rhythm )
> 3.51
> Memo From Turner ( extended intro ) 4.28
> Memo From Turner ( Metamorphosis ) 2.47
> Memo From Turner ( Best OF ) 4.03
> Memo From Turner ( The London Years ) 4.06

Micks Best Of is different from The London Years version, but only as the drums intro is shortened a bit, so that explains the different running time - London Years: 4.06 - Best Of: 4.03 - so its not exactly a different version, its more a different edit!

The "extended intro" version you mention is not genuine, its fake done by the bootlegger to pretend selling something "new", but in fact its homemade! the bootleg it comes from (cant remember name) also has fake "different versions" of other tracks like Happy and Drift Away if I remember it right.

Re: memo from turner
Posted by: 55 Rusty ()
Date: October 1, 2007 20:20

good to know, thanks

Re: memo from turner
Posted by: VoodooLounge13 ()
Date: October 1, 2007 20:34

How long is the version on the Performance soundtrack? I don't have it with me at work....

Re: memo from turner
Posted by: Baboon Bro ()
Date: October 1, 2007 21:11

Rank Stranger Wrote:
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> Hello Baboon Bro!
> Lookout for the Rolling Stones Singles collection,
> disc three!
> [www.jpc.de]
> 201?rk=poprock&rsk=hitlist

Got that one.. :0) Have to find the friggin' record, thats all...

Re: memo from turner
Posted by: alimente ()
Date: October 2, 2007 01:15

alimente Wrote:
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> Micks Best Of is different from The London Years
> version, but only as the drums intro is shortened
> a bit, so that explains the different running time
> - London Years: 4.06 - Best Of: 4.03 - so its not
> exactly a different version, its more a different
> edit!


CORRECTION: Micks Best Of and The London Years
versions are EXACTLY THE SAME (silence AFTER the track is a bit longer on London Years, thats why it clocks in at 4.06!!!). so drum intro is not shortened, in fact I confused this with the as yet unreleased outtake version which indeed has a longer drum intro.

Re: memo from turner
Posted by: Spud ()
Date: October 2, 2007 10:00

Know what,
If the Stones played this live today it could be a killer.
Maybe based on the film version... but with Ronnie's slide style and Keith's chopped chords amd Monkey Man type riffs it could really smoke.

Re: memo from turner
Posted by: michrud ()
Date: October 2, 2007 11:24

One read that "Don't Call Me Up" was written by Mick for the Stones, but he decided to use it for GITDW album?? Can someone confirm?

Re: memo from turner
Posted by: marcovandereijk ()
Date: October 2, 2007 12:27

Interesting question: who, besides Mick and Ry Cooder are playing on the Performance version (also on London Years and Best Of Mick Jagger) of Memo from Turner?

According to Nico Zentgraf an early version with Steve Winwood and Jim Capaldi (on drums) was recorded in september 1968.
Later (around november 1968) Al Kooper supposedly joined in on guitar for the Metamorphosis version.
No one knows for sure if Keith plays on any version at all (some suggest he might even hate the song, because Mick and Anita were "getting along nicely" during the filming of Performance).

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